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Deficits Don't Matter... again
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Bob loves old poor people.
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We'll that's the rub. Prior to the 1930s "General Welfare" was never interpreted by the Courts to mean grandma's hip replacement. That's a great benefit for grandma, but not much a "General" benefit for the country.AZDuck said:"The Congress shall have power;"
"To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." -
Where do you think our education system would be without federal mandates on minimum education? We'd get more shit like Texas trying to write Hillary and Anne Frank out of history.SFGbob said:
Hondo, just because you can't wipe your own ass without a government instruction manual doesn't mean that without a Federal Department of Education everyone else wouldn't be able to get an education.2001400ex said:
Perfect. Dumb down the populace to create Republican voters for generations. We need more people like Trump in office. And I love Rivers catching on fire. Such a beautiful thing in the night sky. What could go wrong there. Then we could be India and 20 years later blame our shithole on socialism.SFGbob said:I'd completely eliminate the welfare state. I get rid of the departments of Education, Commerce and Labor. I'd drastically reduce the EPA and then I'd break for lunch.
Paying for the certainties of life, that you will get old, that you will get sick and that you will die, was never the reason why we constituted a Federal Government. We've been through this before Hondo, who you like me to predict your Kunt act response? -
Prior to the 1930's "separate but equal" was how the Supreme Court interpreted the Bill of Rights.SFGbob said:
We'll that's the rub. Prior to the 1930s "General Welfare" was never interpreted by the Courts to mean grandma's hip replacement. That's a great benefit for grandma, but not much a "General" benefit for the country.AZDuck said:"The Congress shall have power;"
"To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." -
It's a benefit to the country to spread the burden rather than watch families crumble into poverty and everything that comes with it.SFGbob said:
We'll that's the rub. Prior to the 1930s "General Welfare" was never interpreted by the Courts to mean grandma's hip replacement. That's a great benefit for grandma, but not much a "General" benefit for the country.AZDuck said:"The Congress shall have power;"
"To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." -
When did "blacks" get full votes and when could women start voting?SFGbob said:
We'll that's the rub. Prior to the 1930s "General Welfare" was never interpreted by the Courts to mean grandma's hip replacement. That's a great benefit for grandma, but not much a "General" benefit for the country.AZDuck said:"The Congress shall have power;"
"To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." -
Anne Frank? Got a link? And there are all kinds of historical figures that don't make it into high school history books. Hell I see my kids' history text books, they've completely whitewashed all kinds of historical figures and elevated minor and insignificant figures mostly on account of gender and race.
Again you think there should be a Federal mandate that compels states to include historical figures in their text books that the Federal government deems to be important.
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Sorry I meant Helen Keller.SFGbob said:Anne Frank? Got a link? And there are all kinds of historical figures that don't make it into high school history books. Hell I see my kids' history text books, they've completely whitewashed all kinds of historical figures and elevated minor and insignificant figures mostly on account of gender and race.
Again you think there should be a Federal mandate that compels states to include historical figures in their text books that the Federal government deems to be important.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/20/texas-votes-to-remove-hillary-clinton-helen-keller-from-curriculum.html
Ok I supported my comment. Now support yours about whitewashing history books and elevating minor figures based on gender or race. -
No, what I would do rather than creating an unsustainable system that you're compelled to pay into your entire working life, I would have workers pay into a private system, with pre-tax money that allowed the person to invest and save that money as a personal asset. As of is now, if you're hit by a bus at 50, everything you paid into that system is gone. Yes, your wife might get a small benefit or your kids might get a few years of benefits until they reach a certain age.UWhuskytskeet said:Bob loves old poor people.
My system would look much more like what a 401K plan looks like. Borrowing for a first time home purchase would be allowed, and transferring that asset to your heirs at the time of your death would also be allowed. -
You know what's funny? The military is in the process of converting from a post-20 year "defined benefits" program for retirees to one very much like the one you just described. There are three cohorts:SFGbob said:
No, what I would do rather than creating an unsustainable system that you're compelled to pay into your entire working life, I would have workers pay into a private system, with pre-tax money that allowed the person to invest and save that money as a personal asset. As of is now, if you're hit by a bus at 50, everything you paid into that system is gone. Yes, your wife might get a small benefit or your kids might get a few years of benefits until they reach a certain age.UWhuskytskeet said:Bob loves old poor people.
My system would look much more like what a 401K plan looks like. Borrowing for a first time home purchase would be allowed, and transferring that asset to your heirs at the time of your death would also be allowed.
(1) People who are vested in the old program (like me, thank God)
(2) People who can choose to go to the new "blended" system or stay in the old system
(3) Newfish, who have no choice but to go with the new system.
This is gonna sound crazy, but the people who have a choice are choosing the old system by 97 to 1.
Market choices, huh? Crazy.
