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Deficits Don't Matter... again
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I hope the Dems win in 2020 so the GOP will get TUFF on deficits again.
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AZDuck said:
A quick glance at other nation's fiscal decisions appears to contradict your logic. For that matter, this nation's fiscal decisions from 2010-2016 kinda fits the same pattern.SFGbob said:
I wouldn't. We don't have a deficit because we tax too little. We spend too fucking much.AZDuck said:
Where would you increase taxes?SFGbob said:
So you can't tell us where you'd cut spending. I'm shocked.2001400ex said:
I complained about spending under Obama. But the larger issue was the revenue drop from 2009 through 2012 that caused the huge deficits. That with tarp ($600 billion) and the stimulus ($800 billion).SFGbob said:
I agree, lets cut spending. Where do you want to cut? Btw, how much did you complain about deficit spending when Obama was in office?2001400ex said:
Except there's identifiable actions by Trump and Congress to increase expenditures and reduce revenues.RaceBannon said:On the economy Obama was quite clear that this is his and Trump didn’t do it
Guess Obama wants to add to his 10 trillion
The difference is Obama took a $1.5 trillion deficit and turned it into $500 billion. Trump is taking a $500 billion and turning it into over a trillion.
And I'm sure you never ever complained about the deficit under Obama. What's the difference now?
https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-deficit.htm#indicator-chart
but, sure
How does that chart refute that we spend too much? If you simply reduced Federal spending to 2012 levels, hardly a year of fiscal austerity, you'd almost entirely eliminate the current budget deficit.AZDuck said:
A quick glance at other nation's fiscal decisions appears to contradict your logic. For that matter, this nation's fiscal decisions from 2010-2016 kinda fits the same pattern.SFGbob said:
I wouldn't. We don't have a deficit because we tax too little. We spend too fucking much.AZDuck said:
Where would you increase taxes?SFGbob said:
So you can't tell us where you'd cut spending. I'm shocked.2001400ex said:
I complained about spending under Obama. But the larger issue was the revenue drop from 2009 through 2012 that caused the huge deficits. That with tarp ($600 billion) and the stimulus ($800 billion).SFGbob said:
I agree, lets cut spending. Where do you want to cut? Btw, how much did you complain about deficit spending when Obama was in office?2001400ex said:
Except there's identifiable actions by Trump and Congress to increase expenditures and reduce revenues.RaceBannon said:On the economy Obama was quite clear that this is his and Trump didn’t do it
Guess Obama wants to add to his 10 trillion
The difference is Obama took a $1.5 trillion deficit and turned it into $500 billion. Trump is taking a $500 billion and turning it into over a trillion.
And I'm sure you never ever complained about the deficit under Obama. What's the difference now?
https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-deficit.htm#indicator-chart
but, sure
We spend too fucking much and showing me the spending rates of other countries doesn't negate that fact. The Federal Government is too damn big and is now spending money on programs and polices that it was never intended to be involved in. -
SFGbob said:AZDuck said:
A quick glance at other nation's fiscal decisions appears to contradict your logic. For that matter, this nation's fiscal decisions from 2010-2016 kinda fits the same pattern.SFGbob said:
I wouldn't. We don't have a deficit because we tax too little. We spend too fucking much.AZDuck said:
Where would you increase taxes?SFGbob said:
So you can't tell us where you'd cut spending. I'm shocked.2001400ex said:
I complained about spending under Obama. But the larger issue was the revenue drop from 2009 through 2012 that caused the huge deficits. That with tarp ($600 billion) and the stimulus ($800 billion).SFGbob said:
I agree, lets cut spending. Where do you want to cut? Btw, how much did you complain about deficit spending when Obama was in office?2001400ex said:
Except there's identifiable actions by Trump and Congress to increase expenditures and reduce revenues.RaceBannon said:On the economy Obama was quite clear that this is his and Trump didn’t do it
Guess Obama wants to add to his 10 trillion
The difference is Obama took a $1.5 trillion deficit and turned it into $500 billion. Trump is taking a $500 billion and turning it into over a trillion.
And I'm sure you never ever complained about the deficit under Obama. What's the difference now?
https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-deficit.htm#indicator-chart
but, sure
How does that chart refute that we spend too much? If you simply reduced Federal spending to 2012 levels, hardly a year of fiscal austerity, you'd almost entirely eliminate the current budget deficit.AZDuck said:
A quick glance at other nation's fiscal decisions appears to contradict your logic. For that matter, this nation's fiscal decisions from 2010-2016 kinda fits the same pattern.SFGbob said:
I wouldn't. We don't have a deficit because we tax too little. We spend too fucking much.AZDuck said:
Where would you increase taxes?SFGbob said:
So you can't tell us where you'd cut spending. I'm shocked.2001400ex said:
I complained about spending under Obama. But the larger issue was the revenue drop from 2009 through 2012 that caused the huge deficits. That with tarp ($600 billion) and the stimulus ($800 billion).SFGbob said:
I agree, lets cut spending. Where do you want to cut? Btw, how much did you complain about deficit spending when Obama was in office?2001400ex said:
Except there's identifiable actions by Trump and Congress to increase expenditures and reduce revenues.RaceBannon said:On the economy Obama was quite clear that this is his and Trump didn’t do it
Guess Obama wants to add to his 10 trillion
The difference is Obama took a $1.5 trillion deficit and turned it into $500 billion. Trump is taking a $500 billion and turning it into over a trillion.
And I'm sure you never ever complained about the deficit under Obama. What's the difference now?
https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-deficit.htm#indicator-chart
but, sure
It's like you've never heard of price inflation and interest.
We spend too fucking much and showing me the spending rates of other countries doesn't negate that fact. The Federal Government is too damn big and is now spending money on programs and polices that it was never intended to be involved in.
Like what and sez who? -
Ok. Where would you cut to get us to 2012. Let's hear this.SFGbob said:AZDuck said:
A quick glance at other nation's fiscal decisions appears to contradict your logic. For that matter, this nation's fiscal decisions from 2010-2016 kinda fits the same pattern.SFGbob said:
I wouldn't. We don't have a deficit because we tax too little. We spend too fucking much.AZDuck said:
Where would you increase taxes?SFGbob said:
So you can't tell us where you'd cut spending. I'm shocked.2001400ex said:
I complained about spending under Obama. But the larger issue was the revenue drop from 2009 through 2012 that caused the huge deficits. That with tarp ($600 billion) and the stimulus ($800 billion).SFGbob said:
I agree, lets cut spending. Where do you want to cut? Btw, how much did you complain about deficit spending when Obama was in office?2001400ex said:
Except there's identifiable actions by Trump and Congress to increase expenditures and reduce revenues.RaceBannon said:On the economy Obama was quite clear that this is his and Trump didn’t do it
Guess Obama wants to add to his 10 trillion
The difference is Obama took a $1.5 trillion deficit and turned it into $500 billion. Trump is taking a $500 billion and turning it into over a trillion.
And I'm sure you never ever complained about the deficit under Obama. What's the difference now?
https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-deficit.htm#indicator-chart
but, sure
How does that chart refute that we spend too much? If you simply reduced Federal spending to 2012 levels, hardly a year of fiscal austerity, you'd almost entirely eliminate the current budget deficit.AZDuck said:
A quick glance at other nation's fiscal decisions appears to contradict your logic. For that matter, this nation's fiscal decisions from 2010-2016 kinda fits the same pattern.SFGbob said:
I wouldn't. We don't have a deficit because we tax too little. We spend too fucking much.AZDuck said:
Where would you increase taxes?SFGbob said:
So you can't tell us where you'd cut spending. I'm shocked.2001400ex said:
I complained about spending under Obama. But the larger issue was the revenue drop from 2009 through 2012 that caused the huge deficits. That with tarp ($600 billion) and the stimulus ($800 billion).SFGbob said:
I agree, lets cut spending. Where do you want to cut? Btw, how much did you complain about deficit spending when Obama was in office?2001400ex said:
Except there's identifiable actions by Trump and Congress to increase expenditures and reduce revenues.RaceBannon said:On the economy Obama was quite clear that this is his and Trump didn’t do it
Guess Obama wants to add to his 10 trillion
The difference is Obama took a $1.5 trillion deficit and turned it into $500 billion. Trump is taking a $500 billion and turning it into over a trillion.
And I'm sure you never ever complained about the deficit under Obama. What's the difference now?
https://data.oecd.org/gga/general-government-deficit.htm#indicator-chart
but, sure
We spend too fucking much and showing me the spending rates of other countries doesn't negate that fact. The Federal Government is too damn big and is now spending money on programs and polices that it was never intended to be involved in. -
I'm really really enjoying the Democrats desperation and just incompetence in generalYellowSnow said:I hope the Dems win in 2020 so the GOP will get TUFF on deficits again.
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I'd completely eliminate the welfare state. I get rid of the departments of Education, Commerce and Labor. I'd drastically reduce the EPA and then I'd break for lunch.
Paying for the certainties of life, that you will get old, that you will get sick and that you will die, was never the reason why we constituted a Federal Government. We've been through this before Hondo, who you like me to predict your Kunt act response? -
Perfect. Dumb down the populace to create Republican voters for generations. We need more people like Trump in office. And I love Rivers catching on fire. Such a beautiful thing in the night sky. What could go wrong there. Then we could be India and 20 years later blame our shithole on socialism.SFGbob said:I'd completely eliminate the welfare state. I get rid of the departments of Education, Commerce and Labor. I'd drastically reduce the EPA and then I'd break for lunch.
Paying for the certainties of life, that you will get old, that you will get sick and that you will die, was never the reason why we constituted a Federal Government. We've been through this before Hondo, who you like me to predict your Kunt act response? -
"The Congress shall have power;""To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defence[note 1] and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States."
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It's almost like these departments and programs were created for a reason. Seriously one of the dumbest posts I've seen.SFGbob said:I'd completely eliminate the welfare state. I get rid of the departments of Education, Commerce and Labor. I'd drastically reduce the EPA and then I'd break for lunch.
Paying for the certainties of life, that you will get old, that you will get sick and that you will die, was never the reason why we constituted a Federal Government. We've been through this before Hondo, who you like me to predict your Kunt act response? -
Hondo, just because you can't wipe your own ass without a government instruction manual doesn't mean that without a Federal Department of Education everyone else wouldn't be able to get an education.2001400ex said:
Perfect. Dumb down the populace to create Republican voters for generations. We need more people like Trump in office. And I love Rivers catching on fire. Such a beautiful thing in the night sky. What could go wrong there. Then we could be India and 20 years later blame our shithole on socialism.SFGbob said:I'd completely eliminate the welfare state. I get rid of the departments of Education, Commerce and Labor. I'd drastically reduce the EPA and then I'd break for lunch.
Paying for the certainties of life, that you will get old, that you will get sick and that you will die, was never the reason why we constituted a Federal Government. We've been through this before Hondo, who you like me to predict your Kunt act response?
