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As I had would have given Ben and the LBs a D grade. Out of position (burned by play action, not physical enough (although improvement), horrible on passing coverage.
But then this happens:
https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article218558070.html
The only group that was worse was the Offensive Line and Punter (don't get me started, hell keep Browning out there, he is a better punter)
I give up...
But then this happens:
https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/college/pac-12/university-of-washington/article218558070.html
The only group that was worse was the Offensive Line and Punter (don't get me started, hell keep Browning out there, he is a better punter)
I give up...
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WTFAY?
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His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
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Being white is a memory eraser. No matter how many dumb, lazy things you do or plays you can’t make - immediately after the game you are tuff, hard working, smart and have a high football IQ.
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"warrior"Dennis_DeYoung said:Being white is a memory eraser. No matter how many dumb, lazy things you do or plays you can’t make - immediately after the game you are tuff, hard working, smart and have a high football IQ.
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The Azeem/BBK double standard has to be one of my favorite DDY triggers. You aren't wrong though.Dennis_DeYoung said:Being white is a memory eraser. No matter how many dumb, lazy things you do or plays you can’t make - immediately after the game you are tuff, hard working, smart and have a high football IQ.
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Kreist. Were alumni1-93 all taken?!?!?
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I was listening to the Solid Verbal podcast (I know AIDs but there weren’t any new TSIO podcasts) and they were talking about how amazing BBK is.
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Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
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BBK gets dragged way too often. He's an instinctual player though. You can make it a black/white thing but he's around the ball more than any LB in recent years, including Azeem and Bierria. Why do you guys think that is?
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BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
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Pretty sure he thought Tevis would be there. Could have been a man/zone combo.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
It definitely could have been BBK's fault. Just saying there was mass confusion before the snap. We weren't lined up right. -
We? talking about the same play here? I don't think Tevis is on the field. Benning is somewhere at the bottom of the picture. BBK takes 2 too many steps to his left, gets caught up in the slop and can't recover. Not sure what Gaines is doing either. He clearly has a read of some kind, but not sure what his responsibility turned into.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
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I mean, you can call me a simpleton and you won't be wrong but unless BBK is spying Huntley I don't know what else he's doing. Playing a middle zone over the top? In which case, he still fucked up the play. If he's playing man, then his responsibility is Huntley.
If he either 1) maintains his position to be able to have a downhill angle or 2) has the speed to recover then that run maybe* picks up the first but it doesn't go for 20+ yards. If you are going to make the argument that he's an "intellectual" football player that makes up for his athletic deficiencies with in-game intuition I don't think this play is the hill to die on. -
Yes. Tevis runs towards the Utah sideline after getting yelled at by a safety. I'm guessing a RB or TE was split out wide.GrundleStiltzkin said:
We? talking about the same play here? I don't think Tevis is on the field. Benning is somewhere at the bottom of the picture. BBK takes 2 too many steps to his left, gets caught up in the slop and can't recover. Not sure what Gaines is doing either. He clearly has a read of some kind, but not sure what his responsibility turned into.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
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He’s the primary target of opposing OC’s.RoadDawg55 said:BBK gets dragged way too often. He's an instinctual player though. You can make it a black/white thing but he's around the ball more than any LB in recent years, including Azeem and Bierria. Why do you guys think that is?
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This isn't the only time BBK get's caught in the slop. Happens too often, but maybe someone else is missing their assignment.
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BBK wasn't even paying attention to tevis. Benning was also confused and BBk points him to dropped back to zone/spy at the bottom of screen. He knew what benning was doing and still covered the same zone.
Benning and Tevis were off presnap but did their jobs during the play. BBK was spot on presnap and completely failed his job during the play. -
You mean teams sometimes run between the tackles? Who knew?Baseman said:
He’s the primary target of opposing OC’s.RoadDawg55 said:BBK gets dragged way too often. He's an instinctual player though. You can make it a black/white thing but he's around the ball more than any LB in recent years, including Azeem and Bierria. Why do you guys think that is?
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Lunch pale kind of kid. The kind of kid you want for your daughter. High character kid.Dennis_DeYoung said:Being white is a memory eraser. No matter how many dumb, lazy things you do or plays you can’t make - immediately after the game you are tuff, hard working, smart and have a high football IQ.
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He's not even close to 2016 Azeem and he gets run over and dragged for extra yards. It doesn't fucking matter if he's "around the ball" and consistently giving up 7-8 yard gains that should be stopped for 4 yard gains. GTFO. Baffles me why you're the biggest BBK defender. Is he your boyfriend?RoadDawg55 said:BBK gets dragged way too often. He's an instinctual player though. You can make it a black/white thing but he's around the ball more than any LB in recent years, including Azeem and Bierria. Why do you guys think that is?
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I dont know what the correct defensive alignment was supposed to be but given the down and distance and position on the field (3rd and 5) I find it odd that Tevis should have been 40 yards down the field in man to man coverage on anyone with safety help over the top and Potatoe in zone coverage so far outside he is nearly standing on the numbers.RoadDawg55 said:
Yes. Tevis runs towards the Utah sideline after getting yelled at by a safety. I'm guessing a RB or TE was split out wide.GrundleStiltzkin said:
We? talking about the same play here? I don't think Tevis is on the field. Benning is somewhere at the bottom of the picture. BBK takes 2 too many steps to his left, gets caught up in the slop and can't recover. Not sure what Gaines is doing either. He clearly has a read of some kind, but not sure what his responsibility turned into.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
irregardless the gifs with presnap confusion:
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-oQLgjk
Other angle: I have no fucking clue what the fuck Potatoe is even fucking looking at, is he looking to the sideline in the middle of the play to see what he is supposed to be doing?
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-other-angle-G54V85
Upon further review UW should have called an immediate TO when Tevis and Potato were running around with the secondary guys yelling at them.
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I'm BBK's father.StrongArmCobra said:
He's not even close to 2016 Azeem and he gets run over and dragged for extra yards. It doesn't fucking matter if he's "around the ball" and consistently giving up 7-8 yard gains that should be stopped for 4 yard gains. GTFO. Baffles me why you're the biggest BBK defender. Is he your boyfriend?RoadDawg55 said:BBK gets dragged way too often. He's an instinctual player though. You can make it a black/white thing but he's around the ball more than any LB in recent years, including Azeem and Bierria. Why do you guys think that is?
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Yeah, but BBK should have had them lined up right. He's a productive, undersized white guy so we all have to hate him.Houhusky said:
I dont know what the correct defensive alignment was supposed to be but given the down and distance and position on the field (3rd and 5) I find it odd that Tevis should have been 40 yards down the field in man to man coverage on anyone with safety help over the top and Potatoe in zone coverage so far outside he is nearly standing on the numbers.RoadDawg55 said:
Yes. Tevis runs towards the Utah sideline after getting yelled at by a safety. I'm guessing a RB or TE was split out wide.GrundleStiltzkin said:
We? talking about the same play here? I don't think Tevis is on the field. Benning is somewhere at the bottom of the picture. BBK takes 2 too many steps to his left, gets caught up in the slop and can't recover. Not sure what Gaines is doing either. He clearly has a read of some kind, but not sure what his responsibility turned into.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
irregardless the gifs with presnap confusion:
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-oQLgjk
Other angle: I have no fucking clue what the fuck Potatoe is even fucking looking at, is he looking to the sideline in the middle of the play to see what he is supposed to be doing?
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-other-angle-G54V85
Upon further review UW should have called an immediate TO when Tevis and Potato were running around with the secondary guys yelling at them. -
If only Wellington had been in the gameRoadDawg55 said:
Yeah, but BBK should have had them lined up right. He's a productive, undersized white guy so we all have to hate him.Houhusky said:
I dont know what the correct defensive alignment was supposed to be but given the down and distance and position on the field (3rd and 5) I find it odd that Tevis should have been 40 yards down the field in man to man coverage on anyone with safety help over the top and Potatoe in zone coverage so far outside he is nearly standing on the numbers.RoadDawg55 said:
Yes. Tevis runs towards the Utah sideline after getting yelled at by a safety. I'm guessing a RB or TE was split out wide.GrundleStiltzkin said:
We? talking about the same play here? I don't think Tevis is on the field. Benning is somewhere at the bottom of the picture. BBK takes 2 too many steps to his left, gets caught up in the slop and can't recover. Not sure what Gaines is doing either. He clearly has a read of some kind, but not sure what his responsibility turned into.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
irregardless the gifs with presnap confusion:
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-oQLgjk
Other angle: I have no fucking clue what the fuck Potatoe is even fucking looking at, is he looking to the sideline in the middle of the play to see what he is supposed to be doing?
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-other-angle-G54V85
Upon further review UW should have called an immediate TO when Tevis and Potato were running around with the secondary guys yelling at them. -
Cause he's fast and can get his hands on guys pretty quick, often in the backfield. But because he's not strong enough and doesn't tackle well, RBs either slip through his arms as he overruns the play, or he jumps on their back and gets carried 5 to 6 yards downfield.RoadDawg55 said:BBK gets dragged way too often. He's an instinctual player though. You can make it a black/white thing but he's around the ball more than any LB in recent years, including Azeem and Bierria. Why do you guys think that is?
He's almost always in the right place, but he just wraps guys up too high and can't tackle very well. Azeem, as you may recall, tackled the fuck out of opposing RBs, sometimes picking them up off the ground and slamming them onto the turf. BBK simply cannot do that. -
They caught em with 5 wide, that's it.Houhusky said:
I dont know what the correct defensive alignment was supposed to be but given the down and distance and position on the field (3rd and 5) I find it odd that Tevis should have been 40 yards down the field in man to man coverage on anyone with safety help over the top and Potatoe in zone coverage so far outside he is nearly standing on the numbers.RoadDawg55 said:
Yes. Tevis runs towards the Utah sideline after getting yelled at by a safety. I'm guessing a RB or TE was split out wide.GrundleStiltzkin said:
We? talking about the same play here? I don't think Tevis is on the field. Benning is somewhere at the bottom of the picture. BBK takes 2 too many steps to his left, gets caught up in the slop and can't recover. Not sure what Gaines is doing either. He clearly has a read of some kind, but not sure what his responsibility turned into.UW_Doog_Bot said:
BBK overpursues inside to the right of the center and then loses Huntley on contain while he should be spying him. That's how I remember it anyways.RoadDawg55 said:
Go watch the play again. It's man coverage and Tevis is running around with no clue what to do presnap. Sometimes you guys are simpletons looking for a whipping boy. The play was fucked from the start.UW_Doog_Bot said:His stop of Huntley was pretty dope. Him getting burned by Huntley for that long run not so much...
irregardless the gifs with presnap confusion:
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-oQLgjk
Other angle: I have no fucking clue what the fuck Potatoe is even fucking looking at, is he looking to the sideline in the middle of the play to see what he is supposed to be doing?
https://gifs.com/gif/confusion-other-angle-G54V85
Upon further review UW should have called an immediate TO when Tevis and Potato were running around with the secondary guys yelling at them. -
I just don't get Potaoe at all. He has done less with more talent than any Husky I can remember in the last 20 years.
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BBK has really only 1 problem. He does not drive through on his tackles. He generally reads correctly, makes it to contact, and then He locks well, but after contact plays his weight as a drag to bring a runner down.
It doesn’t work that way. My jr high coach called that being a “Daddy Draper”. Extra 3 yards to the running back.
Plant, hit and drive your luscious, meaty things through the tackle until it looks like you’re riding a bicycle up someone’s taint. Gotta tackle a running back like you’re fucking a cheerleader. It’s all about the thighs. -
2016 Azeem refresher:
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@StlouisDawg , check this thread out which @CokeGreaterThanPepsi retweeted. This guy does a really good job breaking down reads for the LBs and DL gap coverage. There’s a lot of clear instances where BBK is putting himself into bad positioning due to either not recognizing fast enough or not at all, and his lack of athleticism doesn’t allow him to cover up for mistakes.StlouisDawg said:BBK has really only 1 problem. He does not drive through on his tackles. He generally reads correctly, makes it to contact, and then He locks well, but after contact plays his weight as a drag to bring a runner down.
It doesn’t work that way. My jr high coach called that being a “Daddy Draper”. Extra 3 yards to the running back.
Plant, hit and drive your luscious, meaty things through the tackle until it looks like you’re riding a bicycle up someone’s taint. Gotta tackle a running back like you’re fucking a cheerleader. It’s all about the thighs.
