It appears the tax cuts aren't paying for themselves
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Taxes should be used as an investment in growing the tax base. Everything you listed offers the stability needed to do that. You also need social programs that help eliminate poverty and offer a massive ROI that makes our economy stronger.greenblood said:Taxes aren’t revenue
Taxes are necessary for common things like roads, police, fire fighters, schools, emergency services, disaster fund, SSI, and reasonable defense. Everything else is legalized theft.
We should make every effort to eliminate poverty, not because it makes you feel good, but because it's the easiest way to grow our economy. -
A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty. -
Free education is a government program to help eliminate poverty. You want to start charging for high school?SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty. -
42% of my property tax goes to the school district. I’m already paying for high school.UWhuskytskeet said:
Free education is a government program to help eliminate poverty. You want to start charging for high school?SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty. -
Really?USMChawk said:
42% of my property tax goes to the school district. I’m already paying for high school.UWhuskytskeet said:
Free education is a government program to help eliminate poverty. You want to start charging for high school?SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.Free[Tax-funded] education is a government program used to help eliminate poverty. You want to start charging [individual students] for high school? -
Do you consider spending on Education to be welfare? When you were talking about spending on "social programs" in order to eliminate poverty I didn't get the sense that you were talking about public school spending.UWhuskytskeet said:
Free education is a government program to help eliminate poverty. You want to start charging for high school?SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.
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Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?SFGbob said:
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married. -
Instead of government intervention in welfare. You want government intervention in marriage and family values. To have all of America align their values with yours. Makes sense.SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty.
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What's the difference? Both are tax-funded efforts in increasing the socioeconomic mobility of the US.SFGbob said:
Do you consider spending on Education to be welfare? When you were talking about spending on "social programs" in order to eliminate poverty I didn't get the sense that you were talking about public school spending.UWhuskytskeet said:
Free education is a government program to help eliminate poverty. You want to start charging for high school?SFGbob said:A government program has to be the absolute worst way to try and eliminate poverty.
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
Poverty in America today is almost solely a function of personal behavior and most social programs act as vehicles that keep people in poverty. -
First of all tell me why it's not a valid solution to deal with poverty? Take a look at the numbers.BennyBeaver said:
Assuming this is a valid solution to poverty (it's not) how do you implement your freedom loving strategy?SFGbob said:
If you really want to do something that will keep people from living in poverty in America today, you'd encourage people to get married before they have kids and then after they are married stay married.
If want to ensure that people in America today don't end up living in poverty you would encourage them to do 4 simple things.
1) Don't drop out of high school.
2) Don't have kids until you're married and once you get married stay married.
3) Get a job, any fucking job and keep it and do not quit that job until you've lined up a better or equal job.
4) Don't abuse drugs and don't abuse alcohol.
Do all of these things and the odds that either you or your kids will be living in poverty are extremely fucking low.
