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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,187 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.

    I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.

    While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
    If you fail to appreciate what a Time-Bomb Obamacare is, I can't help you. I got the teaser rate my first two years, too. Then came the 12% increase and higher deductibles.

    Funny thing one must realize: Money doesn't grow on trees, except in Socialist utopias, like Venezuela, which I hear is nice.
    Liar. 7 years later.... The only people getting ridiculous increases to insurance are those that are buying of the exchange and live in small counties. Cause fucksticks on both sides of the aisle won't get rid of the county lines and let insurers market across the entire state.
    Everyone has been getting ridiculous increases to insurance forever

    Huh, funny how those increases correlate almost perfectly with the passages of medicaid, medicare, and the government getting involved in the market... It's almost as if basic concepts of crowding out and government inefficiency vs. the free market really do exist.





    Our government isn't capable of efficiently "planning" a market or an industry.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,187 Founders Club
    I will concede one thing to the socialists. It's much easier to "ration" healthcare and keep costs low in a planned economy that let's old and sick people die while waiting for care. Healthcare is cheap if you only take care of mostly healthy people.


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
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    It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.

    Thanks for that.

    And there's the strawman ass fuck.
    Again with the homoerotic talk.
    Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
    Embarrassing.
    Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
    If you don't have insurance. You essentially don't have health Care. Not many people have the cash to pay for anything at the hospital. And doctors/hospitals will bankrupt you to get paid.
    Bullshit. I didn't have health insurance until my early 30s. I always had access to healthcare. You're essentially a dumbfuck.
    It's almost like you don't read. But if you had great health Care. Why did you bother with insurance?
    It's almost like you pull this very same Kunt act every time you're caught talking out your ass. I read what you said dumbass. You lied about 30 million people not having healthcare prior to Obamacare. You then doubled down and restated pretty much the same thing. I didn't have health insurance through out my 20s. I always had access to healthcare. Liar or moron Hondo, take your pick.
    You are playing semantics with insurance vs health Care.

    HTH
    I always love it when the liar accuses you of doing exactly what they really are doing. How was I able to access healthcare during my 20s despite the fact that I didn't have health insurance liar? Essentially, you're a lying fucking moron Hondo.
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.

    Thanks for that.

    And there's the strawman ass fuck.
    Again with the homoerotic talk.
    Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
    Embarrassing.
    Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
    If you don't have insurance. You essentially don't have health Care. Not many people have the cash to pay for anything at the hospital. And doctors/hospitals will bankrupt you to get paid.
    Bullshit. I didn't have health insurance until my early 30s. I always had access to healthcare. You're essentially a dumbfuck.
    It's almost like you don't read. But if you had great health Care. Why did you bother with insurance?
    It's almost like you pull this very same Kunt act every time you're caught talking out your ass. I read what you said dumbass. You lied about 30 million people not having healthcare prior to Obamacare. You then doubled down and restated pretty much the same thing. I didn't have health insurance through out my 20s. I always had access to healthcare. Liar or moron Hondo, take your pick.
    You are playing semantics with insurance vs health Care.

    HTH
    Appears the "you didn't read it" Kunt dodge didn't work. Hondo's now claiming that I'm playing a "semantics" game.
    Read for comprehension. So you were privileged. Most people can't afford to pay hospital bills. And when they get sick, therefore don't go to the doctor if they don't have insurance. Then what happens, shit gets worse.... So instead of a $300 visit and it's done, now it requires surgery.

    I was typing slow.... Hoping you would understand how life works.
    Most people don't require hospitalization when they get sick. Most people in their 20 and 30s rarely get sick enough that they require any hospitalization or expensive medical treatment. Your claim that 30 million people had no access to healthcare was a fucking lie. I comprehend very clearly that you talked out your ass and are now desperately trying to throw copious amounts of bullshit against the wall and hoping something sticks. The only "privilege" I had was the same privilege most younger people have. Good health and little need for any medical care other twisted ankle or dermatology needs.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    Also if you're really poor you're covered by Medicaid. Many of the 30 million people who had no insurance were in that situation by choice, just as I was during my 20s. I could have afforded health insurance but my job at the time didn't provided it and I didn't want to pay for something I knew I wasn't going to use.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.

    Thanks for that.

    And there's the strawman ass fuck.
    Again with the homoerotic talk.
    Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
    Embarrassing.
    Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
    If you don't have insurance. You essentially don't have health Care. Not many people have the cash to pay for anything at the hospital. And doctors/hospitals will bankrupt you to get paid.
    Bullshit. I didn't have health insurance until my early 30s. I always had access to healthcare. You're essentially a dumbfuck.
    It's almost like you don't read. But if you had great health Care. Why did you bother with insurance?
    It's almost like you pull this very same Kunt act every time you're caught talking out your ass. I read what you said dumbass. You lied about 30 million people not having healthcare prior to Obamacare. You then doubled down and restated pretty much the same thing. I didn't have health insurance through out my 20s. I always had access to healthcare. Liar or moron Hondo, take your pick.
    You are playing semantics with insurance vs health Care.

    HTH
    I always love it when the liar accuses you of doing exactly what they really are doing. How was I able to access healthcare during my 20s despite the fact that I didn't have health insurance liar? Essentially, you're a lying fucking moron Hondo.
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.

    Thanks for that.

    And there's the strawman ass fuck.
    Again with the homoerotic talk.
    Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
    Embarrassing.
    Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
    If you don't have insurance. You essentially don't have health Care. Not many people have the cash to pay for anything at the hospital. And doctors/hospitals will bankrupt you to get paid.
    Bullshit. I didn't have health insurance until my early 30s. I always had access to healthcare. You're essentially a dumbfuck.
    It's almost like you don't read. But if you had great health Care. Why did you bother with insurance?
    It's almost like you pull this very same Kunt act every time you're caught talking out your ass. I read what you said dumbass. You lied about 30 million people not having healthcare prior to Obamacare. You then doubled down and restated pretty much the same thing. I didn't have health insurance through out my 20s. I always had access to healthcare. Liar or moron Hondo, take your pick.
    You are playing semantics with insurance vs health Care.

    HTH
    Appears the "you didn't read it" Kunt dodge didn't work. Hondo's now claiming that I'm playing a "semantics" game.
    Read for comprehension. So you were privileged. Most people can't afford to pay hospital bills. And when they get sick, therefore don't go to the doctor if they don't have insurance. Then what happens, shit gets worse.... So instead of a $300 visit and it's done, now it requires surgery.

    I was typing slow.... Hoping you would understand how life works.
    Most people don't require hospitalization when they get sick. Most people in their 20 and 30s rarely get sick enough that they require any hospitalization or expensive medical treatment. Your claim that 30 million people had no access to healthcare was a fucking lie. I comprehend very clearly that you talked out your ass and are now desperately trying to throw copious amounts of bullshit against the wall and hoping something sticks. The only "privilege" I had was the same privilege most younger people have. Good health and little need for any medical care other twisted ankle or dermatology needs.
    El oh El.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.

    Thanks for that.

    And there's the strawman ass fuck.
    Again with the homoerotic talk.
    Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
    Embarrassing.
    Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
    If you don't have insurance. You essentially don't have health Care. Not many people have the cash to pay for anything at the hospital. And doctors/hospitals will bankrupt you to get paid.
    Bullshit. I didn't have health insurance until my early 30s. I always had access to healthcare. You're essentially a dumbfuck.
    It's almost like you don't read. But if you had great health Care. Why did you bother with insurance?
    It's almost like you pull this very same Kunt act every time you're caught talking out your ass. I read what you said dumbass. You lied about 30 million people not having healthcare prior to Obamacare. You then doubled down and restated pretty much the same thing. I didn't have health insurance through out my 20s. I always had access to healthcare. Liar or moron Hondo, take your pick.
    You are playing semantics with insurance vs health Care.

    HTH
    I always love it when the liar accuses you of doing exactly what they really are doing. How was I able to access healthcare during my 20s despite the fact that I didn't have health insurance liar? Essentially, you're a lying fucking moron Hondo.
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    It's awesome getting Trump dicksuckers to not only admit Obama wasn't a communist. But argue and argue he wasn't.

    Thanks for that.

    And there's the strawman ass fuck.
    Again with the homoerotic talk.
    Aren't you the very same hypocritical Kunt who just claimed I was a Trump dicksucker? Stupid, liar and a hypocrite. The triple threat. Btw, quote anything I said that would equate to sucking Trump's dick. Now go run and hide lightweight dipshit.
    Embarrassing.
    Notice how this dipshit never addresses the instances where he puts his head up his ass. Claiming that 30 million people didn't have healthcare before Obamacare is pure bullshit. But being the mouthy little dipshit he is, Hondo just acts like he never said it and powers through to a new and better head up the ass moment.
    If you don't have insurance. You essentially don't have health Care. Not many people have the cash to pay for anything at the hospital. And doctors/hospitals will bankrupt you to get paid.
    Bullshit. I didn't have health insurance until my early 30s. I always had access to healthcare. You're essentially a dumbfuck.
    It's almost like you don't read. But if you had great health Care. Why did you bother with insurance?
    It's almost like you pull this very same Kunt act every time you're caught talking out your ass. I read what you said dumbass. You lied about 30 million people not having healthcare prior to Obamacare. You then doubled down and restated pretty much the same thing. I didn't have health insurance through out my 20s. I always had access to healthcare. Liar or moron Hondo, take your pick.
    You are playing semantics with insurance vs health Care.

    HTH
    Appears the "you didn't read it" Kunt dodge didn't work. Hondo's now claiming that I'm playing a "semantics" game.
    Read for comprehension. So you were privileged. Most people can't afford to pay hospital bills. And when they get sick, therefore don't go to the doctor if they don't have insurance. Then what happens, shit gets worse.... So instead of a $300 visit and it's done, now it requires surgery.

    I was typing slow.... Hoping you would understand how life works.
    Most people don't require hospitalization when they get sick. Most people in their 20 and 30s rarely get sick enough that they require any hospitalization or expensive medical treatment. Your claim that 30 million people had no access to healthcare was a fucking lie. I comprehend very clearly that you talked out your ass and are now desperately trying to throw copious amounts of bullshit against the wall and hoping something sticks. The only "privilege" I had was the same privilege most younger people have. Good health and little need for any medical care other twisted ankle or dermatology needs.
    El oh El.
    I believe that's Kunt speak for "I'm never going to back up my lying twat of mouth."
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Thanks to Obama's Healthcare plan, millions more people are now covered by Health Insurance that is paid for by other working-class people whose rates went up and now both groups receive a far more complicated, onerous, bureaucratic and inferior product. Yay.

    I don't know. My insurance went from 8% increases every year to 3% or so. I won. 30 million people have health Care that didn't before.

    While the law was shit and there's lots to do to fix it. It's better than the old system.
    If you fail to appreciate what a Time-Bomb Obamacare is, I can't help you. I got the teaser rate my first two years, too. Then came the 12% increase and higher deductibles.

    Funny thing one must realize: Money doesn't grow on trees, except in Socialist utopias, like Venezuela, which I hear is nice.
    Liar. 7 years later.... The only people getting ridiculous increases to insurance are those that are buying of the exchange and live in small counties. Cause fucksticks on both sides of the aisle won't get rid of the county lines and let insurers market across the entire state.
    Everyone has been getting ridiculous increases to insurance forever

    Huh, funny how those increases correlate almost perfectly with the passages of medicaid, medicare, and the government getting involved in the market... It's almost as if basic concepts of crowding out and government inefficiency vs. the free market really do exist.





    Our government isn't capable of efficiently "planning" a market or an industry.
    You can also find a very similar level of increase in the cost of higher education and it to corresponds very neatly with the Federal Government's efforts to make college more affordable.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
    You are right, that is what I said. Semantics are the only difference between the two. You are a very smart person.

    I did not say that you are getting mad arguing about the semantic difference between the two. How could someone read my post that way? They would have to be really stupid, incapable of processing the words in front of them. The kind of person who gets irrationally angry about such things.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
    You are right, that is what I said. Semantics are the only difference between the two. You are a very smart person.

    I did not say that you are getting mad arguing about the semantic difference between the two. How could someone read my post that way? They would have to be really stupid, incapable of processing the words in front of them. The kind of person who gets irrationally angry about such things.
    I'd say the stupid person is the one claiming the only difference between health care and health insurance is one of semantics. Who's angry? I love making liberals look stupid.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
    You are right, that is what I said. Semantics are the only difference between the two. You are a very smart person.

    I did not say that you are getting mad arguing about the semantic difference between the two. How could someone read my post that way? They would have to be really stupid, incapable of processing the words in front of them. The kind of person who gets irrationally angry about such things.
    I'd say the stupid person is the one claiming the only difference between health care and health insurance is one of semantics. Who's angry? I love making liberals look stupid.
    You’ve only been here a short time but it appears that your shtick is doing bad-faith readings of liberal arguments so you can call them liars and “Kunts”. But truly, the libs are the ones who look stupid.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
    You are right, that is what I said. Semantics are the only difference between the two. You are a very smart person.

    I did not say that you are getting mad arguing about the semantic difference between the two. How could someone read my post that way? They would have to be really stupid, incapable of processing the words in front of them. The kind of person who gets irrationally angry about such things.
    I'd say the stupid person is the one claiming the only difference between health care and health insurance is one of semantics. Who's angry? I love making liberals look stupid.
    You’ve only been here a short time but it appears that your shtick is doing bad-faith readings of liberal arguments so you can call them liars and “Kunts”. But truly, the libs are the ones who look stupid.
    And by "bad-faith" readings you mean quoting them word for word.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
    You are right, that is what I said. Semantics are the only difference between the two. You are a very smart person.

    I did not say that you are getting mad arguing about the semantic difference between the two. How could someone read my post that way? They would have to be really stupid, incapable of processing the words in front of them. The kind of person who gets irrationally angry about such things.
    I'd say the stupid person is the one claiming the only difference between health care and health insurance is one of semantics. Who's angry? I love making liberals look stupid.
    You’ve only been here a short time but it appears that your shtick is doing bad-faith readings of liberal arguments so you can call them liars and “Kunts”. But truly, the libs are the ones who look stupid.
    And by "bad-faith" readings you mean quoting them word for word.
    Be sure to let us know when you start doing this
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited September 2018
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    While a federal law mandates patients in hospitals accepting Medicare funds be treated and stabilized. The level of care in each state varies.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/445756001
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    As inane as any Hondo post is, it is some kind of talent to make a person spend his day getting angry online about the semantic difference between health care and health insurance.

    Because the only difference between the two is "semantics." Who knew that very few people in the United States had any healthcare prior to the 1940s because most people had no health insurance then.
    You are right, that is what I said. Semantics are the only difference between the two. You are a very smart person.

    I did not say that you are getting mad arguing about the semantic difference between the two. How could someone read my post that way? They would have to be really stupid, incapable of processing the words in front of them. The kind of person who gets irrationally angry about such things.
    I'd say the stupid person is the one claiming the only difference between health care and health insurance is one of semantics. Who's angry? I love making liberals look stupid.
    You’ve only been here a short time but it appears that your shtick is doing bad-faith readings of liberal arguments so you can call them liars and “Kunts”. But truly, the libs are the ones who look stupid.
    And by "bad-faith" readings you mean quoting them word for word.
    Be sure to let us know when you start doing this
    Well you can start with this thread. I've not misquoted or misrepresented anything that was said by anyone here. Is Hondo paying you for this ass tonguing our are you offering this one up gratis? He said that 30 million people lacked healthcare prior to the passage of Obama care. I didn't make that up, he said it. It's a fucking lie. Plenty of people didn't have health insurance entirely by there own choice. That doesn't mean the lacked healthcare.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    While a federal law mandates patients in hospitals accepting Medicare funds be treated and stabilized. The level of care in each state varies.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/445756001
    And as usual, the goal posts just moved. Hospitals and E-rooms can't deny care to anyone in all states not just most. I'll allow you to cop to just being a dumbfuck with this one Hondo.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    Are you most people? Why do you think your actions are encompassing of the rest of the country?

    Here's a pro tip for you. I misspoke on health Care versus health insurance. Any rational person would have realized that. When you started arguing trying to prove you are right, I have been trolling you ever since. Which is what hardly clothed is referring to. And you still don't see.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    Are you most people? Why do you think your actions are encompassing of the rest of the country?

    Here's a pro tip for you. I misspoke on health Care versus health insurance. Any rational person would have realized that. When you started arguing trying to prove you are right, I have been trolling you ever since. Which is what hardly clothed is referring to. And you still don't see.
    Dumbfuck, there are two separate statements in what I said and what you quoted. The first statement is a question where I'm asking you which state is it not true that hospitals and E-rooms can't deny treatment based upon ability to pay because I knew you were talking out your ass. There is no state where you can do that.

    My second statement is in response to your shitty fucking analogy. Try to pull your head out of your ass before you respond it will make may embarrassment of you more enjoyable. I don't think that my actions represent "most people" or encompass the rest of the country. For a guy who is such a stickler about other people not reading correctly you sure suck at it yourself Hondo.

    Congratulations on finally admitting you had your head up your ass. A rational person would have just admitted that in the first place rather than denying you said what you clearly did say.

    And your trolling claim is just another lie Hondo.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    Are you most people? Why do you think your actions are encompassing of the rest of the country?

    Here's a pro tip for you. I misspoke on health Care versus health insurance. Any rational person would have realized that. When you started arguing trying to prove you are right, I have been trolling you ever since. Which is what hardly clothed is referring to. And you still don't see.
    Hey Hondo, is that pretty much another one of your Kunt dodges after you stick your head up your ass? Just claim you were "trolling" the other person all along.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    Are you most people? Why do you think your actions are encompassing of the rest of the country?

    Here's a pro tip for you. I misspoke on health Care versus health insurance. Any rational person would have realized that. When you started arguing trying to prove you are right, I have been trolling you ever since. Which is what hardly clothed is referring to. And you still don't see.
    Hey Hondo, is that pretty much another one of your Kunt dodges after you stick your head up your ass? Just claim you were "trolling" the other person all along.
    I've been trolling you since your first post. HTH
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    Are you most people? Why do you think your actions are encompassing of the rest of the country?

    Here's a pro tip for you. I misspoke on health Care versus health insurance. Any rational person would have realized that. When you started arguing trying to prove you are right, I have been trolling you ever since. Which is what hardly clothed is referring to. And you still don't see.
    Hey Hondo, is that pretty much another one of your Kunt dodges after you stick your head up your ass? Just claim you were "trolling" the other person all along.
    I've been trolling you since your first post. HTH
    Weird how you were "trolling" me by making head up the ass statements in response to things said by other people. Stupid people make for very bad liars Hondo.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Hospitals and Emergency rooms can not deny care based on inability to pay

    hondoFS as usual

    That is true in most states. But you miss the point too race.

    Here I'll give another example. So you change the oil in your car? Or do you let it ride until everything breaks? Most people without insurance do the latter.

    But basic concepts are lost on you and such fag Bob.
    Which state isn't that statement true in liar? I didn't have health insurance liar, but that didn't mean I just ignored my "oil change" needs. Shitty and stupid analogy dumbass. Let me guess, I missed your "point."
    Are you most people? Why do you think your actions are encompassing of the rest of the country?

    Here's a pro tip for you. I misspoke on health Care versus health insurance. Any rational person would have realized that. When you started arguing trying to prove you are right, I have been trolling you ever since. Which is what hardly clothed is referring to. And you still don't see.
    Hey Hondo, is that pretty much another one of your Kunt dodges after you stick your head up your ass? Just claim you were "trolling" the other person all along.
    I've been trolling you since your first post. HTH
    Weird how you were "trolling" me by making head up the ass statements in response to things said by other people. Stupid people make for very bad liars Hondo.
    Maybe you should pm @IrishDawg22
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Just don't claim that hondo has been defending obamacare from day 1

    Obamacare is shit. But it didn't cause insurance rates to skyrocket. Dumbfuck.
    Right. Obamacare was supposed to stop the skyrocketing and bring it under control. With a true "public option" it had a chance of making an impact on costs. That's why Obama's Wall Street banker backers told him to drop that fucking shit yesterday as soon as he took office, and he obediently did so, handing it off to Harry Reid to give it the Fredo treatment. Nevadans are known for that.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Just don't claim that hondo has been defending obamacare from day 1

    Obamacare is shit. But it didn't cause insurance rates to skyrocket. Dumbfuck.
    Right. Obamacare was supposed to stop the skyrocketing and bring it under control. With a true "public option" it had a chance of making an impact on costs. That's why Obama's Wall Street banker backers told him to drop that fucking shit yesterday as soon as he took office, and he obediently did so, handing it off to Harry Reid to give it the Fredo treatment. Nevadans are known for that.
    I don't have time to research this. And this is from 2013, but it illustrates my point. Yes Obamacare didn't reduce health insurance costs. But the actual increases now are lower than they were in the past. In other words. It had Little positive effect but the many peoples perception was it had a negative effect. Which isn't true. The bill was shit but better than what we had. At least people who don't have employer provided insurance now have an easy way to find insurance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/08/20/health-costs-are-growing-really-slowly-americans-havent-noticed/
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,113 Founders Club
    Fuck off shill
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,187 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Just don't claim that hondo has been defending obamacare from day 1

    Obamacare is shit. But it didn't cause insurance rates to skyrocket. Dumbfuck.
    Right. Obamacare was supposed to stop the skyrocketing and bring it under control. With a true "public option" it had a chance of making an impact on costs. That's why Obama's Wall Street banker backers told him to drop that fucking shit yesterday as soon as he took office, and he obediently did so, handing it off to Harry Reid to give it the Fredo treatment. Nevadans are known for that.
    I don't have time to research this. And this is from 2013, but it illustrates my point. Yes Obamacare didn't reduce health insurance costs. But the actual increases now are lower than they were in the past. In other words. It had Little positive effect but the many peoples perception was it had a negative effect. Which isn't true. The bill was shit but better than what we had. At least people who don't have employer provided insurance now have an easy way to find insurance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/08/20/health-costs-are-growing-really-slowly-americans-havent-noticed/
    Except that it completely killed the private market(see unsubsidized) for healthcare. It's part of why I won't go back to being a consultant. It's impossible for me to afford health insurance that ISN'T through an employer.

    I still know gobs of people that just end up not buying insurance because they can't afford it and just pay the penalty instead. They are forced to pay for all of their healthcare out of pocket at offices that will take cash.

    My favorite part of this is how someone like Hondo or one of my liberal friends will try to explain to me how this isn't actually a problem at all or how it's just a misconception on my part. It has nothing to do with actual rates skyrocketing or actual experiences...
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,477 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Just don't claim that hondo has been defending obamacare from day 1

    Obamacare is shit. But it didn't cause insurance rates to skyrocket. Dumbfuck.
    Embarrassing.