BBC Yesterday: Polar Ice Up 50%
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LIFPO
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I'm a big fan of LIFO.
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So if you read the article you'd realize this was an anomaly based on a changing wind pattern and a surprisingly cold summer.
There have been spikes before like in 1992, 1996 and 2001.
If it keeps recovering great, but that would go against a 30 year trend that has seen sea ice decrease by roughly 40%.
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How will we keep the sun from becoming a red giant...That's what I wan to know. Then what?
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Does God have anything to do with that? I thought George Soros could blot out the sun?MikeDamone said:How will we keep the sun from becoming a red giant...That's what I wan to know. Then what?
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I thought it was Mr. BurnsPRedoubt said:
Does God have anything to do with that? I thought George Soros could blot out the sun?MikeDamone said:How will we keep the sun from becoming a red giant...That's what I wan to know. Then what?
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Statistical reasoning is lost on dtd/predoubt if it involves any nuance.CollegeDoog said:So if you read the article you'd realize this was an anomaly based on a changing wind pattern and a surprisingly cold summer.
There have been spikes before like in 1992, 1996 and 2001.
If it keeps recovering great, but that would go against a 30 year trend that has seen sea ice decrease by roughly 40%.
Believe what you will, though. -
We need to act NOW. I am sick of these big corporations putting off this future crisis with the sun. We have to start putting billions of dollars towards this, just think of the future generations.MikeDamone said:How will we keep the sun from becoming a red giant...That's what I wan to know. Then what?
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Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size
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Give scientists a few million years to get their own guys in thereMikeDamone said:How will we keep the sun from becoming a red giant...That's what I wan to know. Then what?
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That's intellectually dishonest.RaceBannon said:Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size
30 years ago is when Greenhouse gasses started to make significant changes to the earth's atmosphere. -
AllegedlyCollegeDoog said:
That's intellectually dishonest.RaceBannon said:Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size
30 years ago is when Greenhouse gasses started to make significant changes to the earth's atmosphere.
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It's actually quote honest. Greenhouse gasses come from many sources, not just man and not just the last 30 years.CollegeDoog said:
That's intellectually dishonest.RaceBannon said:Stats are great if you realize that looking at 30 years in comparison to a planet that is billions of years old is what we call a small sample size
30 years ago is when Greenhouse gasses started to make significant changes to the earth's atmosphere.
You're using the small sample size to defend the small sample size -
I like to pretend that the industrial revolution didn't happen, I do that. -
Mt St Helens erupted 30 years agodoogsinparadise said:
I like to pretend that the industrial revolution happened 30 years ago, I do that.
London during the 19th century coal age -
It's when the rest of the world caught up. HthRaceBannon said:
Mt St Helens erupted 30 years agodoogsinparadise said:
I like to pretend that the industrial revolution happened 30 years ago, I do that.
London during the 19th century coal age
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If we just keep moving the goalposts....CollegeDoog said:
It's when the rest of the world caught up. HthRaceBannon said:
Mt St Helens erupted 30 years agodoogsinparadise said:
I like to pretend that the industrial revolution happened 30 years ago, I do that.
London during the 19th century coal age
We're doing what is prudent for clean air and water and our air and water is cleaner than it has been in a couple centuries. Europe as well.
I don't see any calls to put taxes on China's gas, only ours. If its the rest of the world go bother them and leave us the fuck alone
You've already admitted you aren't going to actually do anything about it so now all you have to do is admit that you're being led down a path that ultimately will prove to be a giant waste of your time -
#Drydecember is on a roll today, must've gotten its guys in.
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Who cares what a Big Black Cock things?
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Also, I don't deal in defeatist arguments i.e. blaming China for rising sea levels, rather then making business-friendly changes to heavy industry.
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great vague fixes as always
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Renewables are vague? Or is there just not a big enough incentive to use them.
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Actually, since I have a double major in Finance and Math, and received 4.0 in statistics and math, I might be the only one in here that knows that drawing conclusions from 40 years of data regarding a planet that is millions of years old renders gigantic standard deviations, and is therefore asinine.doogsinparadise said:
Statistical reasoning is lost on dtd/predoubt if it involves any nuance.CollegeDoog said:So if you read the article you'd realize this was an anomaly based on a changing wind pattern and a surprisingly cold summer.
There have been spikes before like in 1992, 1996 and 2001.
If it keeps recovering great, but that would go against a 30 year trend that has seen sea ice decrease by roughly 40%.
Believe what you will, though.
If you try to cite data any longer than that, you're an idiot. The earth is 75% ocean, and the technology to measure temperature over the ocean, (or deserts, or polar regions, or uninhabited areas in the tropics), did not exist before 40 years ago. The earth is ALSO inhabited approximately only 2% by mankind. Taking data from that 2% from the 1800's, located within limited bands of latitude is likewise, asinine.
So, if you think you are smarter than statistics and standard deviations much larger than your head, then please go fuck yourself.
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If they existed they would be used. Are you saying industry is not regulated enough? American industry isn't the problem. American jobs are though. What is your incentive?doogsinparadise said:Renewables are vague? Or is there just not a big enough incentive to use them.
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LOLdeath2ducks said:
Actually, since I have a double major in Finance and Math, and received 4.0 in statistics and math, I might be the only one in here that knows that drawing conclusions from 40 years of data regarding a planet that is millions of years old renders gigantic standard deviations, and is therefore asinine.doogsinparadise said:
Statistical reasoning is lost on dtd/predoubt if it involves any nuance.CollegeDoog said:So if you read the article you'd realize this was an anomaly based on a changing wind pattern and a surprisingly cold summer.
There have been spikes before like in 1992, 1996 and 2001.
If it keeps recovering great, but that would go against a 30 year trend that has seen sea ice decrease by roughly 40%.
Believe what you will, though.
If you try to cite data any longer than that, you're an idiot. The earth is 75% ocean, and the technology to measure temperature over the ocean, (or deserts, or polar regions, or uninhabited areas in the tropics), did not exist before 40 years ago. The earth is ALSO inhabited approximately only 2% by mankind. Taking data from that 2% from the 1800's, located within limited bands of latitude is likewise, asinine.
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Industry is misregulated. As for China and jobs, their free ride (cheap manufacturing, no enviromental controls) isn't going to be there forever, which is why I'd argue that now is a good time to further American competitiveness in advance of a leveled playing field.
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Business will make decisions based off of the profit motive, and you can't blame them for that, it's just that overall quality of life will suffer on our current climate trajectory.
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So you don't have anything either. If I want meaningless sound bites Obama delivers them better. He's well spoken.
Now is a good time for jobs. America is the cleanest industrial nation on earth. Our innovations lead the way. Our overall quality of life is suffering from a lack of economic recovery -
And I wasn't talking about Chineese jobs
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Stock market's fine, housing is up, it's lack of investment that's harming jobs. Hard to believe that regs are holding that cash back to this degree.
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