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I've seen the bubble pop in Southern California biggly but I'm a little older than you. Cheap Seattle is gone forever. It's on the San Francisco trajectory now. Not saying there can't be corrections here and there so don't twist. But there are too many highly paid professionals now and not enough land to go around. We aren't a humble logging camp anymore.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's more of a value proposition than anything which to your point admittedly if you have enough money doesn't matter. It's much harder to not be a pour out here though. You can make six figures and still be considered a pour. The bar for "enough money for it not to matter" is a whole hell of a lot higher in California than most places not named New York or Tokyo.creepycoug said:
Show me anyone who wouldn't live in Laguna if they had the cash and I'll show you a weirdo. Place is paradise. Laguna is the shit. I'd never fit in there, but it's awesome.YellowSnow said:
Mrs Snow would move us to Dana Point, Laguna, Newport, Irvine, etc in a heartbeat. Then me and @UW_Doog_Bot could bromance in real life. Funny how your priorities change over time. When I was a kid in San Diego, I thought it sucked and the PNW was amazing because of trees, water, and Husky Stadium. Now that I have kids, I want sunshine and being able to send them outdoors 365 days a year like I did as a kiddie.MisterEm said:
Hrmmm..Mrs Em has started pushing me to ditch Denver and transfer to Newport...at least while the house is over-valued and almost paid off. She has been shopping SoCal realtors...RaceBannon said:
Listen to Mrs SnowYellowSnow said:
99% of my steak is home grilled, but I do love a swanky steak house. If I live in CA ever again - which is Mrs Snow's dream - I would die of cancer prolly from eating too much grilled meat.RaceBannon said:I'm talking about at my grocery store
I rarely buy a steak at a restaurant due to my grilling skills
I resisted Mrs Bannon for a few years but she was right.
If my family didn't live here and IF Seattle were still as cheap as it was when I left I'd move back in a heartbeat. Fucked if I'm trading an overpriced place here in Cali for an overpriced place in Seattle now though.
Yellow, listen to the wife. The bubble down here only ever shrinks, it never actually pops. I can't say the same for the Seattle market. -
I got married on Laguna Beach and had my reception at a Messican restaurant.creepycoug said:
Show me anyone who wouldn't live in Laguna if they had the cash and I'll show you a weirdo. Place is paradise. Laguna is the shit. I'd never fit in there, but it's awesome.YellowSnow said:
Mrs Snow would move us to Dana Point, Laguna, Newport, Irvine, etc in a heartbeat. Then me and @UW_Doog_Bot could bromance in real life. Funny how your priorities change over time. When I was a kid in San Diego, I thought it sucked and the PNW was amazing because of trees, water, and Husky Stadium. Now that I have kids, I want sunshine and being able to send them outdoors 365 days a year like I did as a kiddie.MisterEm said:
Hrmmm..Mrs Em has started pushing me to ditch Denver and transfer to Newport...at least while the house is over-valued and almost paid off. She has been shopping SoCal realtors...RaceBannon said:
Listen to Mrs SnowYellowSnow said:
99% of my steak is home grilled, but I do love a swanky steak house. If I live in CA ever again - which is Mrs Snow's dream - I would die of cancer prolly from eating too much grilled meat.RaceBannon said:I'm talking about at my grocery store
I rarely buy a steak at a restaurant due to my grilling skills
I resisted Mrs Bannon for a few years but she was right. -
Chinned for lying, just saying.Pitchfork51 said:
Banging hot 40 year old women is not totally my jam.creepycoug said:
Show me anyone who wouldn't live in Laguna if they had the cash and I'll show you a weirdo. Place is paradise. Laguna is the shit. I'd never fit in there, but it's awesome.YellowSnow said:
Mrs Snow would move us to Dana Point, Laguna, Newport, Irvine, etc in a heartbeat. Then me and @UW_Doog_Bot could bromance in real life. Funny how your priorities change over time. When I was a kid in San Diego, I thought it sucked and the PNW was amazing because of trees, water, and Husky Stadium. Now that I have kids, I want sunshine and being able to send them outdoors 365 days a year like I did as a kiddie.MisterEm said:
Hrmmm..Mrs Em has started pushing me to ditch Denver and transfer to Newport...at least while the house is over-valued and almost paid off. She has been shopping SoCal realtors...RaceBannon said:
Listen to Mrs SnowYellowSnow said:
99% of my steak is home grilled, but I do love a swanky steak house. If I live in CA ever again - which is Mrs Snow's dream - I would die of cancer prolly from eating too much grilled meat.RaceBannon said:I'm talking about at my grocery store
I rarely buy a steak at a restaurant due to my grilling skills
I resisted Mrs Bannon for a few years but she was right.
Every once in awhile. -
UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's more of a value proposition than anything which to your point admittedly if you have enough money doesn't matter. It's much harder to not be a pour out here though. You can make six figures and still be considered a pour. The bar for "enough money for it not to matter" is a whole hell of a lot higher in California than most places not named New York or Tokyo.creepycoug said:
Show me anyone who wouldn't live in Laguna if they had the cash and I'll show you a weirdo. Place is paradise. Laguna is the shit. I'd never fit in there, but it's awesome.YellowSnow said:
Mrs Snow would move us to Dana Point, Laguna, Newport, Irvine, etc in a heartbeat. Then me and @UW_Doog_Bot could bromance in real life. Funny how your priorities change over time. When I was a kid in San Diego, I thought it sucked and the PNW was amazing because of trees, water, and Husky Stadium. Now that I have kids, I want sunshine and being able to send them outdoors 365 days a year like I did as a kiddie.MisterEm said:
Hrmmm..Mrs Em has started pushing me to ditch Denver and transfer to Newport...at least while the house is over-valued and almost paid off. She has been shopping SoCal realtors...RaceBannon said:
Listen to Mrs SnowYellowSnow said:
99% of my steak is home grilled, but I do love a swanky steak house. If I live in CA ever again - which is Mrs Snow's dream - I would die of cancer prolly from eating too much grilled meat.RaceBannon said:I'm talking about at my grocery store
I rarely buy a steak at a restaurant due to my grilling skills
I resisted Mrs Bannon for a few years but she was right.
If my family didn't live here and IF Seattle were still as cheap as it was when I left I'd move back in a heartbeat. Fucked if I'm trading an overpriced place here in Cali for an overpriced place in Seattle now though.
Yellow, listen to the wife. The bubble down here only ever shrinks, it never actually pops. I can't say the same for the Seattle market.
Hasn't happened here since before people used the term "bubble" so "turn the lights out" doesn't count.
In 2008, the only people who lost their houses were people who completely and w/o reason extended themselves in houses that they were a 3x multiple of base salary from belonging in, and when they couldn't refi their paper equity from permanent appreciation, they were fucked.
But the value loss in real estate in Seattle was remarkably controlled relative to most parts of the country.
And, PS, it's crazy pricey up here now. -
I think the Seattle market is overheated. I could be wrong. Cali prices are pretty in line historically atm. Plus, even if it dips, there's only so much real estate where it's 70 year round next to the beach. Especially now that even historically bad neighborhoods like Compton are becoming gentrified and most new housing gets blocked by NIMBY's. The only shit thing about betting on Ca. is it's government but the Seattle area is equally FS politics-wise these days.creepycoug said:UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's more of a value proposition than anything which to your point admittedly if you have enough money doesn't matter. It's much harder to not be a pour out here though. You can make six figures and still be considered a pour. The bar for "enough money for it not to matter" is a whole hell of a lot higher in California than most places not named New York or Tokyo.creepycoug said:
Show me anyone who wouldn't live in Laguna if they had the cash and I'll show you a weirdo. Place is paradise. Laguna is the shit. I'd never fit in there, but it's awesome.YellowSnow said:
Mrs Snow would move us to Dana Point, Laguna, Newport, Irvine, etc in a heartbeat. Then me and @UW_Doog_Bot could bromance in real life. Funny how your priorities change over time. When I was a kid in San Diego, I thought it sucked and the PNW was amazing because of trees, water, and Husky Stadium. Now that I have kids, I want sunshine and being able to send them outdoors 365 days a year like I did as a kiddie.MisterEm said:
Hrmmm..Mrs Em has started pushing me to ditch Denver and transfer to Newport...at least while the house is over-valued and almost paid off. She has been shopping SoCal realtors...RaceBannon said:
Listen to Mrs SnowYellowSnow said:
99% of my steak is home grilled, but I do love a swanky steak house. If I live in CA ever again - which is Mrs Snow's dream - I would die of cancer prolly from eating too much grilled meat.RaceBannon said:I'm talking about at my grocery store
I rarely buy a steak at a restaurant due to my grilling skills
I resisted Mrs Bannon for a few years but she was right.
If my family didn't live here and IF Seattle were still as cheap as it was when I left I'd move back in a heartbeat. Fucked if I'm trading an overpriced place here in Cali for an overpriced place in Seattle now though.
Yellow, listen to the wife. The bubble down here only ever shrinks, it never actually pops. I can't say the same for the Seattle market.
Hasn't happened here since before people used the term "bubble" so "turn the lights out" doesn't count.
In 2008, the only people who lost their houses were people who completely and w/o reason extended themselves in houses that they were a 3x multiple of base salary from belonging in, and when they couldn't refi their paper equity from permanent appreciation, they were fucked.
But the value loss in real estate in Seattle was remarkably controlled relative to most parts of the country.
And, PS, it's crazy pricey up here now.