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RunDNC's Rap Tourney Final Four Matchup One: 1. NWA vs 1. Tupac

dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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Both chincredibly legendary, both massively chinfluential. Can't go wrong with either option.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZi25Pq3T8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaOul8gVVc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umUHR1JlT_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Jwxs9b_gE





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wBTdfAkqGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1ZvUDvLDY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69SSLfRJho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA13uMi9Hp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2A5m1NkSiY


RunDNC's Rap Tourney Final Four Matchup One: 1. NWA vs 1. Tupac 31 votes

80's #1 NWA
41%
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90's #1 Tupac
58%
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    90's #1 Tupac
    You obviously can't go wrong with either one, but ATBS I think it's Pac and I don't think it's especially close. The NWA argument basically is the trailblazer argument - if there's no NWA there's no TuPac. And that's probably true. But that's where it ends for me. Pac was plenty influential himself and he put out a shit ton more music than NWA did (and all of it extremely high quality, at least the before death stuff).

    But even beyond the volume issue, Pac was a five tool rapper to a degree unlike anyone really before or since. There are a few litmus tests for a rapper - can he resonate with the streets, can he speak for the streets (socially conscious), can he make hits (radio/club play)/sell albums, can he freestyle, can he rhyme in new and chinteresting ways, can he take out a rival with a dis track?

    Pac checks all the boxes, resoundingly. I know our esteemed Asian thinks Pac didn't produce enough bangers but from 93 to at least 98 you couldn't turn on a radio or go to a club without hearing Pac multiple times. Every album he put out had a shit ton of hits on it, even beyond the singles.

    I love NWA but Ice Cube said it best:


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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,203
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    90's #1 Tupac
    I voted because I know how to party
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,884
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    90's #1 Tupac
    Pac rolling NWA more than I thought. Difference maker here is Pac just had a much larger discography of great material. Maybe if NWA had stuck together a little longer and grew there sound they could have been the GOAT.
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    90's #1 Tupac
    YellowSnow said:

    Pac rolling NWA more than I thought. Difference maker here is Pac just had a much larger discography of great material. Maybe if NWA had stuck together a little longer and grew there sound they could have been the GOAT.

    I know we don’t deal in hypotheticals here, but imagine the library he’d have if he didn’t get assassinated by Suge Knight.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,203
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    90's #1 Tupac
    Pac got killed by the Crip for beating up his boy in Vegas

    Suge killed Biggie
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    ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    90's #1 Tupac
    RaceBannon said:

    Pac got killed by the Crip for beating up his boy in Vegas

    Suge killed Biggie

    Suge killed both. HTH
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    90's #1 Tupac
    Tiebreaker was NWA only had 2 albums together. And we voted on all the solo careers.
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    oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    80's #1 NWA
    NWA has Eazy E, Ice Cube and Dre.

    Tupac is just one guy. Easy choice.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    90's #1 Tupac
    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    NWA has Eazy E, Ice Cube and Dre.

    Tupac is just one guy. Easy choice.

    OBK so doesn't realize we voted on easy, cube, and Dre. Not to mention he doesn't know Dre produced half of Pacs work. Or know anything about Ren, Yella, DOC or Arabian Prince.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    90's #1 Tupac
    NWA puts up a good fight but Pac moves to the championship 16-12.
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