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It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag. -
Oh look. Shitliverdawg is another libtard that can’t respond to the correct poaster. Bravo.CirrhosisDawg said: -
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
I shared my concern to flea about your instability and incoherence. We notice and we CARE.salemcoog said:
Oh look. Shitliverdawg is another libtard that can’t respond to the correct poaster. Bravo.CirrhosisDawg said:
Time to:
Step back from the keyboard?
Take a walk along the willamette river?
Heck, curse out a Mexican (Job stealer!!11) if it makes you feel better.
Ts&Ps cuog. -
Nobody likes you.CirrhosisDawg said:
I shared my concern to flea about your instability and incoherence. We notice and we CARE.salemcoog said:
Oh look. Shitliverdawg is another libtard that can’t respond to the correct poaster. Bravo.CirrhosisDawg said:
Time to:
Step back from the keyboard?
Take a walk along the willamette river?
Heck, curse out a Mexican (Job stealer!!11) if it makes you feel better.
Ts&Ps cuog. -
Salem Coog is shredding a lot of cuckflakes in this thread. Grabbing the popcorn.
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How did you get I hate America from that post?salemcoog said:
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you. -
My dad is highly educated on the history of the country. It's a very biased right-wing John Birch Society version of history though. Considering he's in his 70's I think it's unlikely he's going to move off of what he already believes has happened.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
There's definitely thought put into his stance but I agree there's more emotion than thought. -
Yeah no clue on thatallpurpleallgold said:
How did you get I hate America from that post?salemcoog said:
Since you hate America for its past,please Tell me which country has used more honorable, humane tactics in establishing and protecting its sovereignty and building its power. While you’re at it. Tell me which country has given back more to other nations of the world once its power was established.allpurpleallgold said:
It’s honorable to fight for your country and I can’t imagine what it’s like to care about someone that died fighting for that country. Is it really too much to ask for them to educate themselves on the history of the country they love so much? We were literally built by protest. Any kind of progress in this country has often come as a result of protest. The first amendment includes the right to peacefully assemble and it does not come with the caveat of when it’s convenient for everyone. I do not see your dads position as reasonable, it seems to be emotionally based and without real thought put into it.dnc said:
And this is where I will have to break with you on this. Yes, some of the "disrespect" side are coming at this because of race. I agree with that wholeheartedly.allpurpleallgold said:
The reasonable people disagreeing was a nice thing to say and very smart for a politician. The problem with the (not) anthem protests is the arguments for it being disrespectful sometimes came out like this “THEY are disrespecting MY country”. That’s racism. So yeah really nice but racism is deserving of being condemned.GrundleStiltzkin said:
He articulated a view in opposition to the constituent without condemning that person. That seems to be in short supply in the SJW ranks right now.dnc said:
Yep. Haven't seen any poles but that clip alone is enough to think he can unseat the Zodiak Killer rather easilyGrundleStiltzkin said:
You should watch it. If Democrats can find more like that, we? might be in trouble.salemcoog said:Looks like a douche. Didn’t click. Don’t care what alleged douche says, it’s disrespectful.
This is where it gets problematic for me. I haven’t heard a good argument for it being disrespectful. If you hold a position that you can’t make a good argument for and there are people making arguments for your position that are blatantly racist, how is anyone on the other side supposed to tell the difference?
It would nice if the “SJW”s wouldn’t condemn everyone but it would also be nice if the other side stopped coming down on the same side as racists every single time.
But my dad was a Marine and raised me my entire life to respect the flag/anthem/pledge etc because of all the men and women who gave their lives to protect it and what it stands for. He has of course stopped watching the NFL over this issue and I can 100% guarantee his stance would be the same if the players taking a knee were white people protesting Obama and affirmative action.
There is a (fairly large) segment of the population where you don't fuck with the flag, period. Considering they put their lives on the line to protect the flag and what it represents, and lost plenty of fellow soldiers who were doing the same, I think it's reasonable for them to be heated about this and take it as disrespectful to those who have fallen. And I don't think it necessarily makes them racist to feel that way, even though racists definitely do feel the same way.
I have to take issue with this whole flag thing. The flag is just a symbol. It represents the people and opportunities and rights of the country. Choosing to defend the symbol over what it represents is nonsensical. It comes across to me as wrapping a bad argument in the flag.
I know you won’t respond, because you can’t.
This whole Freshman at Berkeley sxhtick you have now is embarrassing. I’d spin the wheel again if I were you.
