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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    What part of 15 games, win or GTFO don't you understand?
  • PRedoubt
    PRedoubt Member Posts: 141

    Think I'm the only one not real excited and dooging it up about the Peterson hire. The press conference made me feel a bit better, but its hard getting over the history of the previous 2 BSU coaches moving on and cratering at their next stop. Add to that he's basically admitted he was burned out at BSU and needed a change to get excited...hell even Seven Win Sark curb-stomped him...and now we just gave him $18 million and 5 years (6 if Pool Boy ever disappears) to feel very comfortable.

    The chaos around his staff doesn't help my feeling either. He's going to have probably 3x or more the assistant salary pool to pay that he had @ BSU...am I the only one concerned he's going to bring most of this staff over? Anyone else think its a bit suspicious that they are all magically diamonds in the rough that are really worth 3x their current salaries? I could give a flip if he wants to keep Wilcox or Tosh or even Tui (think that one would be smart though)...I do give a flip if he thinks he can magically port over an entire assistant coaching staff from the MWC and suddenly and magically recruit and compete well in the Pac12. Add to that his now infatuation of chasing down a BSU QB commit when we have 3 young QBs on the roster already that were top 10 in their classes as we shed the few defensive recruits we have (and no OL recruits) and it doesn't add to my comfort level. And I hope to God everyone around here doesn't start dooging it up on saying our future 2* and 3* recruits are really better than everyone else's 4* recruits. Sure coaching is key, but coaching 4*s up is a hell of alot better than coaching 2*s up. Lets see it in action at this level instead of the MWC before we start throwing parades.

    Just don't get why this doesn't scare people more.

    Am I supposed to read this whole fucking thread?
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622

    You could the same argument if we hired Saban. Will he recruit like he did at Michigan state where he was average since we're not down south where big line talent falls off trees like ripe fruit? Are we all going to die? Everyone here is in wait and see mode. But it was a great hire. Don't be afraid of success. It could happen. None of us know shit one weekinto his time hehere

    Well, the only thing we know so far is:
    - He hasn't stopped the bleeding on recruiting;
    - He gave a great press conference; and
    - He is a winner...although boise is in a second-tier conference and hence most of his games were against second-tier schools.

    I like the guy, but time will tell. Like you said, none of us know shit...except for the things I mentioned after one week.
  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652

    Do you honestly think that if Petersen goes 7-6 or 8-5 each year and starts loading up on 2* talent, that we're going to keep doogin' it up? No! We will be calling for his head on a platter. Our patience may even wear out after two years, given the preposterously easy schedule.

    The man at the podium of that press conference looked happy and ready to take on a challenge. I did not see Charles Grodin up there wearily fielding questions.

    College Doog summed it up perfectly- UW showed that it really wants to win and will take steps to get there. If Petersen doesn't work out, then the days of rationalizing mediocrity are over. Bring on the next coach! (Speaking of which, what's the buyout on Mora's contract in 2016?)

    I thought UCLA gave Mora a six-year extension through the 2019 season. Petersen better perform. We can't wait for Mora since it seems he turned UW down before Petersen accepted.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    priapism said:

    Petersen did a great job developing mediocre QBs and his teams executed. His WRs and TEs always made clutch catches. If BS had lesser athletic play from their QB position, they would have easily performed near Fresno State's level the past decade. Petersen is wise to get out of BS now tho, IMO - BS might be in trouble now, they do look weak this year. I think Petersen is probably is a +1 victory/year upgrade over Sark. I was concerned with the almost $4mil/year salary given to him...but it looks like the top 10 programs are going to start paying $5-10mil/year now...so maybe he's not that bad a price...and he'll possibly turn out to be a decent bargain in a few years...maybe the hire was good timing in a somewhat low-turnover year for HCs.

    But he obviously has a lot to prove over the next 3 years -> Hawkins and Koetter.

    I would like to see Wilcox stay. But Tosh is obviously a Sark mole.

    Please raise your expectations. Petersen should be a minimum 10 win coach at WA, 11 counting a bowl game. Should be good for 2-3 wins more than Sark, and those should be in conference.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,425 Founders Club

    Do you honestly think that if Petersen goes 7-6 or 8-5 each year and starts loading up on 2* talent, that we're going to keep doogin' it up? No! We will be calling for his head on a platter. Our patience may even wear out after two years, given the preposterously easy schedule.

    The man at the podium of that press conference looked happy and ready to take on a challenge. I did not see Charles Grodin up there wearily fielding questions.

    College Doog summed it up perfectly- UW showed that it really wants to win and will take steps to get there. If Petersen doesn't work out, then the days of rationalizing mediocrity are over. Bring on the next coach! (Speaking of which, what's the buyout on Mora's contract in 2016?)

    I thought UCLA gave Mora a six-year extension through the 2019 season. Petersen better perform. We can't wait for Mora since it seems he turned UW down before Petersen accepted.
    I was being sarcastic.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652

    Do you honestly think that if Petersen goes 7-6 or 8-5 each year and starts loading up on 2* talent, that we're going to keep doogin' it up? No! We will be calling for his head on a platter. Our patience may even wear out after two years, given the preposterously easy schedule.

    The man at the podium of that press conference looked happy and ready to take on a challenge. I did not see Charles Grodin up there wearily fielding questions.

    College Doog summed it up perfectly- UW showed that it really wants to win and will take steps to get there. If Petersen doesn't work out, then the days of rationalizing mediocrity are over. Bring on the next coach! (Speaking of which, what's the buyout on Mora's contract in 2016?)

    I thought UCLA gave Mora a six-year extension through the 2019 season. Petersen better perform. We can't wait for Mora since it seems he turned UW down before Petersen accepted.
    I was being sarcastic.
    Thanks for the clarification. Now that we are in another uncharted waters scenario with respect to what may happen with the football program's future, I have greater difficulty understanding some posters meanings.

    Regarding the OP's sentiment: I understand the ambivalence. Me, I am glad I care to come to these boards still. If Woodward had hired Nussmeier, I was prepared to be done with UW football. Instead, I'm more optimistic than I have been in at least 10 years.

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,425 Founders Club

    Do you honestly think that if Petersen goes 7-6 or 8-5 each year and starts loading up on 2* talent, that we're going to keep doogin' it up? No! We will be calling for his head on a platter. Our patience may even wear out after two years, given the preposterously easy schedule.

    The man at the podium of that press conference looked happy and ready to take on a challenge. I did not see Charles Grodin up there wearily fielding questions.

    College Doog summed it up perfectly- UW showed that it really wants to win and will take steps to get there. If Petersen doesn't work out, then the days of rationalizing mediocrity are over. Bring on the next coach! (Speaking of which, what's the buyout on Mora's contract in 2016?)

    I thought UCLA gave Mora a six-year extension through the 2019 season. Petersen better perform. We can't wait for Mora since it seems he turned UW down before Petersen accepted.
    I was being sarcastic.
    Thanks for the clarification. Now that we are in another uncharted waters scenario with respect to what may happen with the football program's future, I have greater difficulty understanding some posters meanings.

    Regarding the OP's sentiment: I understand the ambivalence. Me, I am glad I care to come to these boards still. If Woodward had hired Nussmeier, I was prepared to be done with UW football. Instead, I'm more optimistic than I have been in at least 10 years.

    Yes, if Woodward had hired Nussmeier, I was done.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    i agree. you should get the fuck out.
  • Homebrew_Dawg
    Homebrew_Dawg Member Posts: 1,652
    mobey said:

    Why are people excited?

    Let's take a stroll down memory lane.

    DJ followed by Lambo followed by Neu followed by Gilby followed by Ty followed by Sark.

    Petersen, at least on paper, is the best coach we've had since DJ.

    Remember when DJ got here, one concern was he couldn't recruit good enough players but he sure could develop them. And as the team got better, so did the recruits.

    Petersen to UW from Boise State > Don James from Kent State.

    I realize different eras, but I am drinking to the prospect that Petersen excels as the next, real HC at UW.
  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    Unlucky for you that Petersen isn't from Houston. You could change your handle to HoustonDoog and stick around to rub our noses in sark when Petersen fails, which as a former BSU coach he is sure to do. Too bad for doogs that UW couldn't have hired a new head football coach from such an obscure, unknown place as Kent State....... or Houston CC.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    Pretty fun to look back at people's concerns about Petersen soon after he was hired, especially related to his recruiting and assistant coaches.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Do you honestly think that if Petersen goes 7-6 or 8-5 each year and starts loading up on 2* talent, that we're going to keep doogin' it up? No! We will be calling for his head on a platter. Our patience may even wear out after two years, given the preposterously easy schedule.

    The man at the podium of that press conference looked happy and ready to take on a challenge. I did not see Charles Grodin up there wearily fielding questions.

    College Doog summed it up perfectly- UW showed that it really wants to win and will take steps to get there. If Petersen doesn't work out, then the days of rationalizing mediocrity are over. Bring on the next coach! (Speaking of which, what's the buyout on Mora's contract in 2016?)

    Hardy har har

  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Tailgater sited on Jood's blog recently - funny random shit
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Tailgater sited on Jood's blog recently - funny random shit

    Great link as always
  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    Nobody paying attention should have allusions about the AP preseason poll meaning anything more than surplus print hanging on the inside wall of a wind blown one-holer out on the Palouse

    http://blogs.seattletimes.com/huskyfootball/2014/08/17/huskies-ranked-in-ap-preseason-poll-for-first-time-in-11-years/#comments-page-subtitle
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    Pretty fun to look back at people's concerns about Petersen soon after he was hired, especially related to his recruiting and assistant coaches.

    Why? Are we now celebrating off season natties again?

    I'm a numbers guy...don't regret my concerns one bit. Still have them. Hawkins and Koetter were both pretty sh!tty hires and they came from the same place with the same rep. Some numbers guy wrote an entire article on this a few days ago:

    grantland.com/the-triangle/chris-petersen-washington-huskies-boise-state-broncos-coaching-success/

    That being said, so far Peterman looks like he's got his sh!t together and has been doing the right things. I'm hopeful, but I'll wait on going full doog until a couple 10+ win seasons or so.

    -HH



  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,163

    Pretty fun to look back at people's concerns about Petersen soon after he was hired, especially related to his recruiting and assistant coaches.

    Why? Are we now celebrating off season natties again?

    I'm a numbers guy...don't regret my concerns one bit. Still have them. Hawkins and Koetter were both pretty sh!tty hires and they came from the same place with the same rep. Some numbers guy wrote an entire article on this a few days ago:

    grantland.com/the-triangle/chris-petersen-washington-huskies-boise-state-broncos-coaching-success/

    That being said, so far Peterman looks like he's got his sh!t together and has been doing the right things. I'm hopeful, but I'll wait on going full doog until a couple 10+ win seasons or so.

    -HH



    92-12. ONLY 2x Bryant Award Winner(Nat'l Coach of the Year). Won 2 BCS Bowels.
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,163
    edited August 2014

    Pretty fun to look back at people's concerns about Petersen soon after he was hired, especially related to his recruiting and assistant coaches.

    Why? Are we now celebrating off season natties again?

    I'm a numbers guy...don't regret my concerns one bit. Still have them. Hawkins and Koetter were both pretty sh!tty hires and they came from the same place with the same rep. Some numbers guy wrote an entire article on this a few days ago:

    grantland.com/the-triangle/chris-petersen-washington-huskies-boise-state-broncos-coaching-success/

    That being said, so far Peterman looks like he's got his sh!t together and has been doing the right things. I'm hopeful, but I'll wait on going full doog until a couple 10+ win seasons or so.

    -HH



    Fucking Vanilla Double Poasts. Why can't I delete my own fucking poasts on this site? Fucking Stalin wannabe, Gulag media room belly laughing motherfuckers.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    Pretty fun to look back at people's concerns about Petersen soon after he was hired, especially related to his recruiting and assistant coaches.

    Why? Are we now celebrating off season natties again?

    I'm a numbers guy...don't regret my concerns one bit. Still have them. Hawkins and Koetter were both pretty sh!tty hires and they came from the same place with the same rep. Some numbers guy wrote an entire article on this a few days ago:

    grantland.com/the-triangle/chris-petersen-washington-huskies-boise-state-broncos-coaching-success/

    That being said, so far Peterman looks like he's got his sh!t together and has been doing the right things. I'm hopeful, but I'll wait on going full doog until a couple 10+ win seasons or so.

    -HH



    92-12. ONLY 2x Bryant Award Winner(Nat'l Coach of the Year). Won 2 BCS Bowels.
    Have you seen the list of Bryant award winners? Can't say that is the list of who's who in coaching...just as much bad as good in that list. The list since James won it in 1991:

    1991 Don James Washington
    1992 Gene Stallings Alabama
    1993 Terry Bowden Auburn
    1994 Rich Brooks Oregon
    1995 Gary Barnett Northwestern
    1996 Bruce Snyder Arizona State
    1997 Lloyd Carr Michigan
    1998 Bill Snyder Kansas State
    1999 Frank Beamer Virginia Tech
    2000 Bob Stoops Oklahoma
    2001 Larry Coker Miami (FL)
    2002 Jim Tressel Ohio State
    2003 Nick Saban LSU
    2004 Tommy Tuberville Auburn
    2005 Mack Brown Texas
    2006 Chris Petersen Boise State
    2007 Mark Mangino Kansas
    2008 Kyle Whittingham Utah
    2009 Chris Petersen Boise State
    2010 Gene Chizik Auburn
    2011 Mike Gundy Oklahoma State
    2012 Bill O'Brien Penn State
    2013 Gus Malzahn Auburn

    Being sandwiched around Tuberville, Mack, Mangino, Whittingham, and Chizik doesn't give me warm fuzzies. And as the article pointed out, Hawkins had just as much name recognition as Peterman has when he came here.

    Hey, I've liked a lot what Peterman has done since hired, but if you think we are guaranteed success and Rose Bowels in the next couple years just because we hired a successful BSU coach...well, more power to you. Hope it happens.

    -HH
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255

    Do you honestly think that if Petersen goes 7-6 or 8-5 each year and starts loading up on 2* talent, that we're going to keep doogin' it up? No! We will be calling for his head on a platter. Our patience may even wear out after two years, given the preposterously easy schedule.

    The man at the podium of that press conference looked happy and ready to take on a challenge. I did not see Charles Grodin up there wearily fielding questions.

    College Doog summed it up perfectly- UW showed that it really wants to win and will take steps to get there. If Petersen doesn't work out, then the days of rationalizing mediocrity are over. Bring on the next coach! (Speaking of which, what's the buyout on Mora's contract in 2016?)

    Bump
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    Pretty fun to look back at people's concerns about Petersen soon after he was hired, especially related to his recruiting and assistant coaches.

    Why? Are we now celebrating off season natties again?

    I'm a numbers guy...don't regret my concerns one bit. Still have them. Hawkins and Koetter were both pretty sh!tty hires and they came from the same place with the same rep. Some numbers guy wrote an entire article on this a few days ago:

    grantland.com/the-triangle/chris-petersen-washington-huskies-boise-state-broncos-coaching-success/

    That being said, so far Peterman looks like he's got his sh!t together and has been doing the right things. I'm hopeful, but I'll wait on going full doog until a couple 10+ win seasons or so.

    -HH



    92-12. ONLY 2x Bryant Award Winner(Nat'l Coach of the Year). Won 2 BCS Bowels.
    Have you seen the list of Bryant award winners? Can't say that is the list of who's who in coaching...just as much bad as good in that list. The list since James won it in 1991:

    1991 Don James Washington
    1992 Gene Stallings Alabama
    1993 Terry Bowden Auburn
    1994 Rich Brooks Oregon
    1995 Gary Barnett Northwestern
    1996 Bruce Snyder Arizona State
    1997 Lloyd Carr Michigan
    1998 Bill Snyder Kansas State
    1999 Frank Beamer Virginia Tech
    2000 Bob Stoops Oklahoma
    2001 Larry Coker Miami (FL)
    2002 Jim Tressel Ohio State
    2003 Nick Saban LSU
    2004 Tommy Tuberville Auburn
    2005 Mack Brown Texas
    2006 Chris Petersen Boise State
    2007 Mark Mangino Kansas
    2008 Kyle Whittingham Utah
    2009 Chris Petersen Boise State
    2010 Gene Chizik Auburn
    2011 Mike Gundy Oklahoma State
    2012 Bill O'Brien Penn State
    2013 Gus Malzahn Auburn

    Being sandwiched around Tuberville, Mack, Mangino, Whittingham, and Chizik doesn't give me warm fuzzies. And as the article pointed out, Hawkins had just as much name recognition as Peterman has when he came here.

    Hey, I've liked a lot what Peterman has done since hired, but if you think we are guaranteed success and Rose Bowels in the next couple years just because we hired a successful BSU coach...well, more power to you. Hope it happens.

    -HH
    IT's amazing how coaching awards don't really mean shit. Many dreck coaches have won that award since 1991.
  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    @Passion : Looks like it is time for you to start jumping up and down and screaming like a little girl

    I hope it works out, and I think the chances are >50% that it will. But I'm also not completely doogin' in my pants. Recruit and develop great players and get us to the pac-12 championship game. Then I'll jump and scream like an 8 year-old girl.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999

    You could the same argument if we hired Saban. Will he recruit like he did at Michigan state where he was average since we're not down south where big line talent falls off trees like ripe fruit? Are we all going to die? Everyone here is in wait and see mode. But it was a great hire. Don't be afraid of success. It could happen. None of us know shit one weekinto his time hehere

    Good take. Glad I didn't embarrass myself in this thread like @HoustonHusky
    Point taken. We are now at a couple 10+ win seasons, so I'm full dooging it.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    Think I'm the only one not real excited and dooging it up about the Peterson hire. The press conference made me feel a bit better, but its hard getting over the history of the previous 2 BSU coaches moving on and cratering at their next stop. Add to that he's basically admitted he was burned out at BSU and needed a change to get excited...hell even Seven Win Sark curb-stomped him...and now we just gave him $18 million and 5 years (6 if Pool Boy ever disappears) to feel very comfortable.

    The chaos around his staff doesn't help my feeling either. He's going to have probably 3x or more the assistant salary pool to pay that he had @ BSU...am I the only one concerned he's going to bring most of this staff over? Anyone else think its a bit suspicious that they are all magically diamonds in the rough that are really worth 3x their current salaries? I could give a flip if he wants to keep Wilcox or Tosh or even Tui (think that one would be smart though)...I do give a flip if he thinks he can magically port over an entire assistant coaching staff from the MWC and suddenly and magically recruit and compete well in the Pac12. Add to that his now infatuation of chasing down a BSU QB commit when we have 3 young QBs on the roster already that were top 10 in their classes as we shed the few defensive recruits we have (and no OL recruits) and it doesn't add to my comfort level. And I hope to God everyone around here doesn't start dooging it up on saying our future 2* and 3* recruits are really better than everyone else's 4* recruits. Sure coaching is key, but coaching 4*s up is a hell of alot better than coaching 2*s up. Lets see it in action at this level instead of the MWC before we start throwing parades.

    Just don't get why this doesn't scare people more.

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