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"Punching Up" in California and New Mexico

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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,404
    edited August 2018
    dflea said:

    Fewer. Now do the cost/benefit analysis like anyone should do before taking action.

    Doesn't have quite the same shine after that IMO.

    That isn't the argument I'm making.

    Tommy is claiming that there is ZERO impact at all. None. 100 percent of people would bypass it.


    Obviously how effective and is it worth the cost is the legit argument. Anyone with a brain realizes that.
    But he and his ilk have gone full on "LOL UR DUMB IT WONT STOP A SINGLE PERSON"
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,825
    dflea said:

    Fewer. Now do the cost/benefit analysis like anyone should do before taking action.

    Doesn't have quite the same shine after that IMO.

    Exactly where I've been at from the beginning. Anyone pretending the wall wouldn't have an impact on illegal immigration is lying to themselves. Just like anyone who thinks the impact would justify the expense.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,655 Founders Club
    We're talking about government spending. 25 billion is couch change

    I just roll my eyes at the extent people go to claim walls don't work. Not a good look

    An honest accounting of the cost of illegals is illuminating
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    The Wall is stupid. Put that money towards:

    The detainment, round up and transport back to the country an illegal came from.

    Or use it to set up a vetting process to make those that have been here and are otherwise productive citizens to make them US Citizens and then enforce our border to the letter of the law with more border patrol.

    With Sanctuary Cities and states being what they are, the 1st option would be the most effective as you can’t have amnesty when there are Sanctuary cities.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,404
    edited August 2018
    dnc said:

    Exactly where I've been at from the beginning. Anyone pretending the wall wouldn't have an impact on illegal immigration is lying to themselves. Just like anyone who thinks the impact would justify the expense.
    The awesomeness and the whining would justify double the expense.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,655 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Better plan











    Spend the $25 billion to bomb sanctuary cities.

    Everybody wins.
    co sign
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,404
    Lol between dnc and obks "final solution" were getting pretty close to the edge here
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    dnc said:

    Better plan











    Spend the $25 billion to bomb sanctuary cities.

    Everybody wins.
    What about sanctuary states? Bomb them too? California’s sanctuary state law prohibits local law enforcement from using money and personnel to enforce federal immigration law. The law has been upheld and won’t be repealed. Just want make sure Riverside County troomps are prepared. Bombs away!1!!
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,825

    What about sanctuary states? Bomb them too? California’s sanctuary state law prohibits local law enforcement from using money and personnel to enforce federal immigration law. The law has been upheld and won’t be repealed. Just want make sure Riverside County troomps are prepared. Bombs away!1!!
    Once California secedes we? won't have an issue.

    If the Nation of Cali likes their illegals they can keep them.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    dnc said:

    Once California secedes we? won't have an issue.

    If the Nation of Cali likes their illegals they can keep them.
    Sounds great. Independence and no bombing. If Riverside County was bombed into smithereens, getting to San Diego would be a lot more difficult. Dodged a bullet there.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896

    Sounds great. Independence and no bombing. If Riverside County was bombed into smithereens, getting to San Diego would be a lot more difficult. Dodged a bullet there.
    Raceda is where the first wave starts.


    So you fucked.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,655 Founders Club

    What about sanctuary states? Bomb them too? California’s sanctuary state law prohibits local law enforcement from using money and personnel to enforce federal immigration law. The law has been upheld and won’t be repealed. Just want make sure Riverside County troomps are prepared. Bombs away!1!!
    Riverside county cites as well as OC cities are OUT when it comes to sanctuary bullshit. We'll fight with the union troops when they come after the state's right racists. Same as it ever was
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Riverside county cites as well as OC cities are OUT when it comes to sanctuary bullshit. We'll fight with the union troops when they come after the state's right racists. Same as it ever was
    Sounds like troomps are mustering a “resistance” movement to California sovereignty and law. The law is clear: in California cities cannot use public money, facilities or personnel to enforce trump bullshit. It’s been upheld by the federal courts. If you don’t like it, change the law. Otherwise, it will be enforced.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 17,219 Swaye's Wigwam

    Riverside county cites as well as OC cities are OUT when it comes to sanctuary bullshit. We'll fight with the union troops when they come after the state's right racists. Same as it ever was
    I'm going sovereign and then using that as leverage to gain water rights when we rejoin the union as Orange California. It's what the cattle barons would have done.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    No it won't. You can find a federal judge to do anything these days but the US Constitution remains undefeated. State's rights are a relic of the slave holding south - you know, democrats
    Trump’s losses in federal court are piling up. Sanctuary status is the law of the land. Federal funds California provides to subsidize freeloading rednecks cannot be withheld. California is undefeated.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    That isn't the argument I'm making.

    Tommy is claiming that there is ZERO impact at all. None. 100 percent of people would bypass it.


    Obviously how effective and is it worth the cost is the legit argument. Anyone with a brain realizes that.
    But he and his ilk have gone full on "LOL UR DUMB IT WONT STOP A SINGLE PERSON"
    I said it wouldn’t stop the 40% you were claiming. You’re the one that walked it back to “If it stops one person it’s worth it for librul tears hehe” territory.
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