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Doogles
Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Founders Club
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/History-says-only-these-14-teams-can-make-the-2018-College-Football-Playoff-120651737/

Spoiler: We didn't make the cut.

No. 6 Washington: The Huskies are a very good team. Chris Petersen is among the best coaches in the country, and they’ve got plenty of NFL talent (from the backfield to the offensive line to the secondary). But … the Huskies don’t have a five-star on their active roster (and no, five-star Jacob Eason does not count this season as he's not eligible to play) nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first, but it will be tough slogging against the truly elite teams in the country in terms of talent and coaching (see Alabama vs. Washington in the 2016 Peach Bowl).

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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Auburn is no Alabama
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Founders Club
    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,313 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Founders Club

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,031 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
    It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,313 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
    Shaq was our last one I think? Buttah was a lowely 4 star. But again, why should having, at least, 1 be predictive of anything? We sucked so bad when Shaq was here, we had to use him at running back.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Who was our composite 5 star in 2016?

    Didn't have one.
    So the article is wrong because we've done it before. I thought maybe Buttah could have been, but then they wouldn't have been calling Kaho Petersens highest recruit.

    Whelp, Wheels up, heading to Atlanta boys!
    It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first
    Reading is hard
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    A program must have at least one 247Sports Composite five-star prospect on its roster (Every championship game participant and playoff team the last 16 years has had at least one).

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't recall us having a composite 5-star player since Shaq was on the team. Budda wasn't one, so I'm not sure who they think we had on our team in 2016 that would qualify for this criteria. That's a blatant error before they even started their analysis, which isn't a good sign.

    But regardless, this kind of "analysis" is just lazy and faulty. To start, it's being based off of a highly subjective measure (composite rankings, which includes ESPN's recruiting staff, a department that has less funding than Fetters' hot dog budget). And that subjective measure doesn't even look at those rankings holistically. If they were to measure the composite rankings of the entire roster, then their analysis would be a lot more convincing. But arbitrarily setting the cutoff at 5-star recruits is just a bad methodology.





  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Founders Club
    nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out.

    My understanding is THAT refers to not having a top 10 class but making the playoff anyway.

    The entire premise of the article is the criteria required to make the playoff and it states not one team has made it without at least 1 composite 5-star.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Emptaman was a 2 star
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited August 2018
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,313 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix

    We can make the CFP with "good" QB play. But so far the evidence is skrong that it cannot be won - at our current talent level - w/o "elite" QB play.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix

    We can make the CFP with "good" QB play. But so far the evidence is skrong that it cannot be won - at our current talent level - w/o "elite" QB play.
    I agree with this 100% ... having elite QB play is one of the few competitive advantages that P12 schools have historically had against SEC schools
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Matt Leinhart carved up Auburn in his first start and it was at Auburn

    We don't have Matt Leinhart though.

    RACESTOp
  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    edited August 2018


    *Where the fuck am I? Wrong thread
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,214

    Doogles said:

    Auburn is no Alabama

    Neither was Penn State.
    This is true, but Penn State was really, really good. They lost two games by a total of four points. They were a team good enough to win a game in the playoff.

    And we would have beat them if it wasnt for Myles Bryant giving up 8 passing plays of 10 yards or more
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Stars are a leading indicator but not an end all be all ... UW gets good QB play and they are right in the mix

    We can make the CFP with "good" QB play. But so far the evidence is skrong that it cannot be won - at our current talent level - w/o "elite" QB play.
    I agree with this 100% ... having elite QB play is one of the few competitive advantages that P12 schools have historically had against SEC schools
    Problem is we have cobra
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Late August really is the best tim to go to Atlanta
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Gladstone said:

    Doogles said:

    https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/History-says-only-these-14-teams-can-make-the-2018-College-Football-Playoff-120651737/

    Spoiler: We didn't make the cut.

    No. 6 Washington: The Huskies are a very good team. Chris Petersen is among the best coaches in the country, and they’ve got plenty of NFL talent (from the backfield to the offensive line to the secondary). But … the Huskies don’t have a five-star on their active roster (and no, five-star Jacob Eason does not count this season as he's not eligible to play) nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first, but it will be tough slogging against the truly elite teams in the country in terms of talent and coaching (see Alabama vs. Washington in the 2016 Peach Bowl).

    TOO LATE. I just bought my flight tickets. God I hate money. What can go wrong?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnYG6AFU7F4
    amazing how decent the directors cut is, while the theater version doog shit
  • DoogCourics
    DoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739

    Gladstone said:

    Doogles said:

    https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/History-says-only-these-14-teams-can-make-the-2018-College-Football-Playoff-120651737/

    Spoiler: We didn't make the cut.

    No. 6 Washington: The Huskies are a very good team. Chris Petersen is among the best coaches in the country, and they’ve got plenty of NFL talent (from the backfield to the offensive line to the secondary). But … the Huskies don’t have a five-star on their active roster (and no, five-star Jacob Eason does not count this season as he's not eligible to play) nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first, but it will be tough slogging against the truly elite teams in the country in terms of talent and coaching (see Alabama vs. Washington in the 2016 Peach Bowl).

    TOO LATE. I just bought my flight tickets. God I hate money. What can go wrong?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnYG6AFU7F4
    amazing how decent the directors cut is, while the theater version doog shit




    I love FREE PUB!!!!
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,214

    Gladstone said:

    Doogles said:

    https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/History-says-only-these-14-teams-can-make-the-2018-College-Football-Playoff-120651737/

    Spoiler: We didn't make the cut.

    No. 6 Washington: The Huskies are a very good team. Chris Petersen is among the best coaches in the country, and they’ve got plenty of NFL talent (from the backfield to the offensive line to the secondary). But … the Huskies don’t have a five-star on their active roster (and no, five-star Jacob Eason does not count this season as he's not eligible to play) nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first, but it will be tough slogging against the truly elite teams in the country in terms of talent and coaching (see Alabama vs. Washington in the 2016 Peach Bowl).

    TOO LATE. I just bought my flight tickets. God I hate money. What can go wrong?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnYG6AFU7F4
    amazing how decent the directors cut is, while the theater version doog shit

    I've never seen the director's cut, but the theater version is fucking solid even with Bloom.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Gladstone said:

    Doogles said:

    https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/History-says-only-these-14-teams-can-make-the-2018-College-Football-Playoff-120651737/

    Spoiler: We didn't make the cut.

    No. 6 Washington: The Huskies are a very good team. Chris Petersen is among the best coaches in the country, and they’ve got plenty of NFL talent (from the backfield to the offensive line to the secondary). But … the Huskies don’t have a five-star on their active roster (and no, five-star Jacob Eason does not count this season as he's not eligible to play) nor have they reeled in a top 10 class the last four cycles — anther critical indicator historically for championship game participants and playoff teams. It should be stated that Washington did buck that trend in 2016, so it's hard to rule the Huskies completely out. No team since the start of 247Sports' recruiting database has won a title without at least one of those two things, however. Washington could be the first, but it will be tough slogging against the truly elite teams in the country in terms of talent and coaching (see Alabama vs. Washington in the 2016 Peach Bowl).

    TOO LATE. I just bought my flight tickets. God I hate money. What can go wrong?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnYG6AFU7F4
    amazing how decent the directors cut is, while the theater version doog shit

    I've never seen the director's cut, but the theater version is fucking solid even with Bloom.
    i would definitely watch the directors cut, it is really good