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Zuckerberg personally decides Alex Jones/Info wars fate

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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,480
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    Social media platforms and the internet in general have become the public space/forum where people gather to interact, share ideas, talk about politics and other stuff. They have too much power to decide what gets heard and what doesn't. Things can't stay like they are now, it's not working.

    Either apply the rules of the first amendment to big tech companies by creating an Internet Bill of Rights or something like that to protect free speech and punish online censorship, or break them up.

    Sounds a lot like nationalization to me.
    Your libertarianism is running into a dead end here. Let everyone do whatever they want and just say fuck it doesn't work in every situation. Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple and a few other big tech companies when taken together, basically control the public square now and the flow of information ideas. Too much power concentrated in too few hands. We already have the evidence and know how companies like Facebook and Google cooperate with foreign governments to crack down on their own citizens. You're a clown if you think they should have that kind of power, and that they're not already doing it here in the USA.
    Valid concerns. But be forthright with the outcome of what you're suggesting: some level of impingement to even confiscation of rights and property of private American companies by the government for "the common good." That makes me uncomfortable.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    OBK, right now your boy Trump is in there. 20 years from now, maybe it's Chelsea Clinton. Do you trust her hands on the levers of a centralized and highly regulated internet? If you give the government the power and legal tools to "free" information, they can use the same to restrict it, and probably call it "freeing" to boot.

    maybe if she were hotter
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,680
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    Social media platforms and the internet in general have become the public space/forum where people gather to interact, share ideas, talk about politics and other stuff. They have too much power to decide what gets heard and what doesn't. Things can't stay like they are now, it's not working.

    Either apply the rules of the first amendment to big tech companies by creating an Internet Bill of Rights or something like that to protect free speech and punish online censorship, or break them up.

    Sounds a lot like nationalization to me.
    It's definitely a new frontier.

    Pretty much all information and interaction is done through like 3 big companies.

    It's just too easy for them to push an agenda. I don't really know the solution to make things better.


    Then again I don't use facebook so who gives a fuck.
    YouTube matters.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    edited August 2018

    OBK, right now your boy Trump is in there. 20 years from now, maybe it's Chelsea Clinton. Do you trust her hands on the levers of a centralized and highly regulated internet? If you give the government the power and legal tools to "free" information, they can use the same to restrict it, and probably call it "freeing" to boot.

    It's a sticky wicket. I support net neutrality but hate the government getting too involved with the internet. I also hate how big tech companies are wielding their power to control and censor information and the flow of information/ideas/perspectives that don't fit into their agenda. Big tech companies have become a threat to free speech and need to be dealt with in some form or another.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Plus he's got 0 natties
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,680
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Plus he's got 0 natties
    Off season natty is the best natty.


    Every quook says so.


  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    pawz said:

    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Plus he's got 0 natties
    Off season natty is the best natty.


    Every quook says so.


    They somehow stole the mantle from you guys
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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    Given the rights stance on net neutrality and corporate pac money I find objecting to this to be laughable.

    Troomps are victims.

    They are spied upon. Abused by the deep state. Denied free speech. Taken advantage of by third world labor. Earned every penny of their Medicaid, Medicare and social security so don’t you dare touch the welfare they EARNED!1! Mexicans steal their jobs. A $25B useless wall is a solid investment to prevent unskilled, uneducated labor from denying them employment. China manipulates its currency. The EU is a national security threat so the US imposes tariffs. Farmers get $12B in welfare to fight the ensuing and hopeless trade war. While receiving massive subsidies, and paying little to no tax they insist they support the welfare state.

    Troomps.
    Have you had that that spot on your brain bucket looked at?

    It may be a tumor that governs your recall. Because it seems that you just Shit poast the same thing over and over. I know that your HSA is burnt. But it would be worth it to have it checked out anyway.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Doesn’t the fact that he was able to be a lunatic for such a long time disprove your theory? People have been bitching about him for years. They’re not censoring speech. They’re doing damage control to protect their platforms from a bad actor hat violates their TOS and/or affects their user base, as is their right. Don’t like it? Use a different service. He’s still on twitter. He still has his own website.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,538
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Doesn’t the fact that he was able to be a lunatic for such a long time disprove your theory? People have been bitching about him for years. They’re not censoring speech. They’re doing damage control to protect their platforms from a bad actor hat violates their TOS and/or affects their user base, as is their right. Don’t like it? Use a different service. He’s still on twitter. He still has his own website.
    What is the story with this dude. I never heard of him until Trump got elected


    Isn't he just a tin foil guy? How is he so widely known
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Doesn’t the fact that he was able to be a lunatic for such a long time disprove your theory? People have been bitching about him for years. They’re not censoring speech. They’re doing damage control to protect their platforms from a bad actor hat violates their TOS and/or affects their user base, as is their right. Don’t like it? Use a different service. He’s still on twitter. He still has his own website.
    It was a coordinated effort by multiple large tech companies to shut him down at the same time. That's not censorship? Sure.....
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
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    Facebook cooperated with Merkel in silencing German opposition to her immigration policies. Police raid the homes of Facebook posters in Germany. Google is launching a censored search engine in China to help the government control info and oppress the people.
  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Doesn’t the fact that he was able to be a lunatic for such a long time disprove your theory? People have been bitching about him for years. They’re not censoring speech. They’re doing damage control to protect their platforms from a bad actor hat violates their TOS and/or affects their user base, as is their right. Don’t like it? Use a different service. He’s still on twitter. He still has his own website.
    What is the story with this dude. I never heard of him until Trump got elected


    Isn't he just a tin foil guy? How is he so widely known
    He’s widely known thanks to the reach of the aforementioned services that have recently banned him, among others.

    Sandy Hook was his big break out, at least as far as I’ve known. Maybe he was around before that? At least 6 years+ before he got banned.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    First Anniversary 5 Awesomes 5 Up Votes First Comment

    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Doesn’t the fact that he was able to be a lunatic for such a long time disprove your theory? People have been bitching about him for years. They’re not censoring speech. They’re doing damage control to protect their platforms from a bad actor hat violates their TOS and/or affects their user base, as is their right. Don’t like it? Use a different service. He’s still on twitter. He still has his own website.
    What is the story with this dude. I never heard of him until Trump got elected


    Isn't he just a tin foil guy? How is he so widely known
    He’s widely known thanks to the reach of the aforementioned services that have recently banned him, among others.

    Sandy Hook was his big break out, at least as far as I’ve known. Maybe he was around before that? At least 6 years+ before he got banned.
    Who gives a shit if the censorship came 6 years later. It's still censorship. How long before leftists start burning books in the streets?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,480
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    Facebook cooperated with Merkel in silencing German opposition to her immigration policies. Police raid the homes of Facebook posters in Germany. Google is launching a censored search engine in China to help the government control info and oppress the people.

    I do not like that they were cooperating with authorities in other countries. However, they must abide by the laws of the jurisdictions in which they operate. I think it would have been better for Google to continue to sit out the Chinese market.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
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    Even creepier, these big tech companies all acted in unison, apparently together, to ban Alex Jones at the same time. Nothing to see here, move along...

    Just like when all of Tiger’s sponsors dropped him around the same time. #Conspiracy
    Not the same. Tiger had a squeaky clean image and got punished when he made mistakes. Alex Jones has always been a lunatic. It's not like he suddenly changed course and went off the rails.
    Doesn’t the fact that he was able to be a lunatic for such a long time disprove your theory? People have been bitching about him for years. They’re not censoring speech. They’re doing damage control to protect their platforms from a bad actor hat violates their TOS and/or affects their user base, as is their right. Don’t like it? Use a different service. He’s still on twitter. He still has his own website.
    What is the story with this dude. I never heard of him until Trump got elected


    Isn't he just a tin foil guy? How is he so widely known
    I don’t know when his show started but he’s been around for over a decade. Making documentaries about the Bilderberg group and shit like that.
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