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Maninoa Tufono, 4* LB 2019, Punahou HS, HI (Offered)
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People forget Sark hid James Atoe until the last hour and SC’s persistent hounding of Skyler Fancher, hoping he’d flip.StrongArmCobra said:
Yes we are. We're waiting for the best remaining recruits to make their decisions and we will get our fair share. If we don't, then you can bitch.Tequilla said:Pretty sure that we aren’t moving to USC’s recruiting model of relying on the end of the class to save our ass.
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Ehh, we get a few out of Heimuli, Tuitele, Ika, Bandes, etc and even the biggest "sky is falling" guys are dooging hard.FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
Also, winning the PAC 12 and making the playoffs > losing the Fiesta Bowl. -
Think DL recruiting gonna do well this year Malloe has opened my eyes has me doogin and I hated him from a recruiting stand point
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OL and DL recruiting have both been improving. We are missing a true stud WR like Ngata and an elite DE/Buck. Spiker and Osbourne should be good though. We are doing fine everywhere else.Nurple said:Think DL recruiting gonna do well this year Malloe has opened my eyes has me doogin and I hated him from a recruiting stand point
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The fact he speaks to these parents (Tuitele and Ika) in their native language gives me comfort
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agree for the most part. not completely sold on the running back depth starting next year. Hopefully pleasant can be a decent back up. Ahmed is electric but goes down easy but i am expecting and hoping that gets better with time and socha. After that who knows.RoadDawg55 said:
OL and DL recruiting have both been improving. We are missing a true stud WR like Ngata and an elite DE/Buck. Spiker and Osbourne should be good though. We are doing fine everywhere else.Nurple said:Think DL recruiting gonna do well this year Malloe has opened my eyes has me doogin and I hated him from a recruiting stand point
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Everyone on these boreds agrees about the DE/Buck issue
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Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!! -
Tuitele is more highly ranked across the various sites and we still have a real shot with him, but losing Ngata stings badly, no question.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
The slow playing is definitely chinteresting. Makes me think the staff is confident in who is still out there on their bored. Will be chinteresting seeing if that confidence is warranted. They definitely crushed it down the stretch last year. -
Why because Tufuno is rated a 4-star? We don't know how any of those guys we slow played last class will turn out in college. Chances are some of them will turn out to be better players than Tufuno.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
I'm not blind to it at all. Everybody takes losses. And Ngata's not the only highly coveted recruit we're recruiting. He's one of many. And he's not the guy we had the best chance at getting. Ever since he visited Clemson he's been trending that way. He never even took a Spring or Summer visit to UW.
I think UW is going to land Buelow, Heimuli, Tuitele, Wright, Vimahi, Trice, and Bandes so there's really no reason for me to freak out about losing Ngata and think we all of a sudden suck at recruiting again and won't sign a class as good as the 2018 class. -
IF we landed that class that would be outstanding. Losing Ngata would suck and not getting 2 tailbacks is dangerous but we whiffed on Charbonet so may not be worth another scholly for someone. That being said i think we get some of those guys and overall disappointed with our inability to get multiple edge rushers.StrongArmCobra said:
Why because Tufuno is rated a 4-star? We don't know how any of those guys we slow played last class will turn out in college. Chances are some of them will turn out to be better players than Tufuno.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
I'm not blind to it at all. Everybody takes losses. And Ngata's not the only highly coveted recruit we're recruiting. He's one of many. And he's not the guy we had the best chance at getting. Ever since he visited Clemson he's been trending that way. He never even took a Spring or Summer visit to UW.
I think UW is going to land Buelow, Heimuli, Tuitele, Wright, Vimahi, Trice, and Bandes so there's really no reason for me to freak out about losing Ngata and think we all of a sudden suck at recruiting again and won't sign a class as good as the 2018 class. -
Remember that this bored didnt hit full suicide watch/ meltdown mode last year until the offer and commitment of Mosiah Liu. That was late November. We still have a few months of this to go.StrongArmCobra said:
Why because Tufuno is rated a 4-star? We don't know how any of those guys we slow played last class will turn out in college. Chances are some of them will turn out to be better players than Tufuno.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
I'm not blind to it at all. Everybody takes losses. And Ngata's not the only highly coveted recruit we're recruiting. He's one of many. And he's not the guy we had the best chance at getting. Ever since he visited Clemson he's been trending that way. He never even took a Spring or Summer visit to UW.
I think UW is going to land Buelow, Heimuli, Tuitele, Wright, Vimahi, Trice, and Bandes so there's really no reason for me to freak out about losing Ngata and think we all of a sudden suck at recruiting again and won't sign a class as good as the 2018 class. -
And now Mosiah is a favorite of the class and looks like a Mother Fucker.bananasnblondes said:
Remember that this bored didnt hit full suicide watch/ meltdown mode last year until the offer and commitment of Mosiah Liu. That was late November. We still have a few months of this to go.StrongArmCobra said:
Why because Tufuno is rated a 4-star? We don't know how any of those guys we slow played last class will turn out in college. Chances are some of them will turn out to be better players than Tufuno.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
I'm not blind to it at all. Everybody takes losses. And Ngata's not the only highly coveted recruit we're recruiting. He's one of many. And he's not the guy we had the best chance at getting. Ever since he visited Clemson he's been trending that way. He never even took a Spring or Summer visit to UW.
I think UW is going to land Buelow, Heimuli, Tuitele, Wright, Vimahi, Trice, and Bandes so there's really no reason for me to freak out about losing Ngata and think we all of a sudden suck at recruiting again and won't sign a class as good as the 2018 class.
Kind of impressive that he caused a suicide watch and then became a God.
Sounds like the player version of Malloe now that I think of it. -
Whoever said Ahmed goes down easily is wrong. He broke a lot of tackles. James Franklin agrees.
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Because he is going to Texas and not TCU, Wazzu, or Utah.StrongArmCobra said:
Why because Tufuno is rated a 4-star? We don't know how any of those guys we slow played last class will turn out in college. Chances are some of them will turn out to be better players than Tufuno.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
I'm not blind to it at all. Everybody takes losses. And Ngata's not the only highly coveted recruit we're recruiting. He's one of many. And he's not the guy we had the best chance at getting. Ever since he visited Clemson he's been trending that way. He never even took a Spring or Summer visit to UW.
I think UW is going to land Buelow, Heimuli, Tuitele, Wright, Vimahi, Trice, and Bandes so there's really no reason for me to freak out about losing Ngata and think we all of a sudden suck at recruiting again and won't sign a class as good as the 2018 class.
Contrary to bananas usual strawmanning I am not melting down but rather remaining skeptical we are going to beat USC for all these guys when so far we've lost Ngata, biffed on RB recruiting, and got our usual collection of stud DBs. I feel very good about Buelow and the Dlinemen. Not so much Heimuli. -
If it's true the coaches' are slowplaying Tufono, it's a bummer the staff wont just sell some turd's couch to make room.
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Yeah that too. Seems like we could sign a bigger class than we are planning to.dougthedawg said:If it's true the coaches' are slowplaying Tufono, it's a bummer the staff wont just sell some turd's couch to make room.
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He also just recently got massively dropped down the 247 rankings because he struggles mightily in coverage. He's an old school thumper who's better moving forward than he is backward right now. No loss if he commits to Texas. Still doesn't mean he will be a better player than the guys previously slow played last class. But sure, he has a better offer sheet and will end up at a better program. But what does the fact that UW is slow playing and passing on higher rated recruits than before tell you about their recruiting right now? Doesn't it suggest that they're recruiting at a higher level?FremontTroll said:
Because he is going to Texas and not TCU, Wazzu, or Utah.StrongArmCobra said:
Why because Tufuno is rated a 4-star? We don't know how any of those guys we slow played last class will turn out in college. Chances are some of them will turn out to be better players than Tufuno.FremontTroll said:
Uhh apparently Tufono for one. The guy whose thread we are in?StrongArmCobra said:
Who have we slow played that's better than those guys?FremontTroll said:
The guys we slow played this year are way better than Djibril, Blaylock, Ben Wilson, and Jackson Craves It. Not the same thing.StrongArmCobra said:
The 2018 class wouldn't have become the class that it did if he hadn't slow played some kids and trusted the process and his staff to get the job done in the end. Ale Kaho, Taki Taimani, Tuli Letuligasenoa, Julius Irvin, Kyler Gordon all late additions. UW never panicked and starting taking plan B guys. We slow played Jackson Cravens in favor of Taimani and Tuli. We slow played Ben Wilson in favor of Ale Kaho. We slow played Stephan Blaylock and Halid Djibril in favor of Irvin and Gordon. Do you want a coach that plays it safe or a coach that has a pair of balls between his legs and goes after the best? Taking Tufuno is playing it safe. We want Heimuli more and we're going to get him.FremontTroll said:
Its funny because this is exactly what Kim was saying when Sark's recruiting was nosediving in 2012.StrongArmCobra said:
Well, Heimuli did not include USC in his top 8 so I can see why the coaches are confident they can get him. Plus, if you have a pair of balls between your legs you wait for your top targets to make their decisions. We're in a new territory in which we're having to wait longer for a lot of commits because we're in on a lot of highly coveted prospects who will take their official visits and announce a decision closer to Signing Day. To us fans it's a bit daunting but to the coaches it's a part of the process of becoming elite. We have a team that should be really good and win most of their games again which will only help recruiting and make finishing with a boom likely.Thebourbinator said:
I’m afraid the coaches are feeling a little overconfident in themselves to land the players they think they can get.. And doesn’t help our HI/poly pipeline to go cold on a highly rated legacy, no matter how recruiting services vs their own evaluations stack up.KevininTacoma said:2 crystal balls to Texas. Sounds like we’re passing on Tufono as well
It could be true or it could be that CP erred by slowplaying some of these kids.
I would feel more confident with a Ngata or Heimuli committed. As is the current class is of similar caliber to the 2017 class and a downgrade from 2018.
There was a feeling that our strong close in 2018 would carry over and give us momentum going into 2019. Doesn't seem to be materializing.
What feeling? This is West Coast recruiting every single year. Most of the highly coveted recruits don't make their decisions until during or after the season. It makes zero sense to think the 2018 recruiting momentum would carry over into the Spring and Summer. Look at USC's class every year. They usually start slow and finish with a huge boom. That's where UW recruiting is headed.
Also you are being intentionally blind to the fact that the highly coveted recruit we had the best chance for just committed to fucking Clemson!!!
I'm not blind to it at all. Everybody takes losses. And Ngata's not the only highly coveted recruit we're recruiting. He's one of many. And he's not the guy we had the best chance at getting. Ever since he visited Clemson he's been trending that way. He never even took a Spring or Summer visit to UW.
I think UW is going to land Buelow, Heimuli, Tuitele, Wright, Vimahi, Trice, and Bandes so there's really no reason for me to freak out about losing Ngata and think we all of a sudden suck at recruiting again and won't sign a class as good as the 2018 class.
Contrary to bananas usual strawmanning I am not melting down but rather remaining skeptical we are going to beat USC for all these guys when so far we've lost Ngata, biffed on RB recruiting, and got our usual collection of stud DBs. I feel very good about Buelow and the Dlinemen. Not so much Heimuli.
We haven't biffed on RB recruiting. We got Cameron Davis because our early talent identification and evaluations are superior to everybody else in the conference. He's stud. USC was late to the party. Still a decent chance Charbonnet gives UW another look down the road.
Heimuli didn't include SC in his top 8. That was very significant. His top 8 is UW, Bama, UCLA, TCU, Ole Miss, Oregon, Nebraska, and Utah. Haven't heard much buzz about Bama being a threat. They probably already have who they want at inside backer committed or lined up. Perhaps USC gets back in it but right now there's no reason not to feel good about UW's chances.
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Fuck, I thought I was the only one losing my fucking mind. Looks like I got company
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Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here)
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata)
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids?
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?!
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right -
I agree I don't like it if we are slow playing a legacy and an important Hawaiian relationship. That shit will come back to bight you in the future. Given that though, who the fuck knows if that's actually what's going on. I doubt Pete is speaking out of the side of his mouth to these kids and their parents. I'd guess that there are some honest conversations with some of our "lower on the board" targets about earning their spot or whatever.Thebourbinator said:Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here)
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata)
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids?
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?!
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right
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1. Him being a legacy means absolutely fucking nothing. Nobody gets preferential treatment because of who their dad is (see Cale Millen).Thebourbinator said:Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here)
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata)
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids?
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?!
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right
2. We're not throwing our eggs in one basket. We'll also be getting an official visit from Joshua Calvert.
3. Our LB depth is pretty good. I've seen nothing to complain about when Wellington and Beavers have been on the field. They just need to stay healthy and will likely be the starters in 2019.
4. This is what big boy recruiting looks like. Be glad that somebody with bigger balls than you is running the program and making tough recruiting decisions.
5. Stop being a pussy. -
I like Cale more than DylanStrongArmCobra said:
1. Him being a legacy means absolutely fucking nothing. Nobody gets preferential treatment because of who their dad is (see Cale Millen).Thebourbinator said:Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here)
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata)
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids?
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?!
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right
2. We're not throwing our eggs in one basket. We'll also be getting an official visit from Joshua Calvert.
3. Our LB depth is pretty good. I've seen nothing to complain about when Wellington and Beavers have been on the field. They just need to stay healthy and will likely be the starters in 2019.
4. This is what big boy recruiting looks like. Be glad that somebody with bigger balls than you is running the program and making tough recruiting decisions.
5. Stop being a pussy. -
Who cares?WeakarmCobra said:
I like Cale more than DylanStrongArmCobra said:
1. Him being a legacy means absolutely fucking nothing. Nobody gets preferential treatment because of who their dad is (see Cale Millen).Thebourbinator said:Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here)
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata)
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids?
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?!
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right
2. We're not throwing our eggs in one basket. We'll also be getting an official visit from Joshua Calvert.
3. Our LB depth is pretty good. I've seen nothing to complain about when Wellington and Beavers have been on the field. They just need to stay healthy and will likely be the starters in 2019.
4. This is what big boy recruiting looks like. Be glad that somebody with bigger balls than you is running the program and making tough recruiting decisions.
5. Stop being a pussy. -
His name is Cale.WeakarmCobra said:
I like Cale more than DylanStrongArmCobra said:
1. Him being a legacy means absolutely fucking nothing. Nobody gets preferential treatment because of who their dad is (see Cale Millen).Thebourbinator said:Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here)
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata)
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids?
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?!
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right
2. We're not throwing our eggs in one basket. We'll also be getting an official visit from Joshua Calvert.
3. Our LB depth is pretty good. I've seen nothing to complain about when Wellington and Beavers have been on the field. They just need to stay healthy and will likely be the starters in 2019.
4. This is what big boy recruiting looks like. Be glad that somebody with bigger balls than you is running the program and making tough recruiting decisions.
5. Stop being a pussy.
Nuff said.
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Having looked back and consulted a certain post some of you may remember we? only had one ILB target listed. That means unless we whiff on Heimuli, Tufono is probably SOL. Things change and maybe they take two or maybe they consider some of these targets OLB's but the big board says otherwise. I'll post more in the Wam for you insiders.
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<<del class="Delete"<i class="Italic">vblockquote class="Quote" rel="Thebourbinator">Just going to reiterate the things I don’t like about this situation:
1. Legacy getting led on then cold shouldered We have no idea what the staff's communication with psa is. They generally play above board and have been honest with psa for better or worse.
2. Hurt feelings of an important asset in both HI and poly pipeline (especially with a ‘family’ situation, again looking at the legacy aspect here) Being honext with psa may stingvegos initially but are for the psa and programs best interest inbthevend
3. We can sit here and say we are waiting on bigger fish, but why haven’t they just closed these big fish already? Quit letting them run around and make them commit already (see Ngata) Very few big fish sign early outside skill positions most wait till the end. See 2018
4. How can they say offers ‘mean something’ when they aren’t commitable just like all those ‘meaningless’ offers for shitbag schools that offers 300 kids? i could be wrong but the offers are commitable when offered. If the psa wants to wait things change Ergo if they take it when offered it is committable. If they want to look aroound well things change.
5. Our lb depth is not good enough to throw all our eggs in one basket, let them compete and figure it out on the field, who knows if one of these kids will end up washing out or getting injured?! Valid point but even though Gregory gets shit he has always produced
6. StrongBallz disagrees with me so I must be right Obviously i am wrong.
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Huh....late night Cristobal. Tufono to USC from Wiltfong. Texas247 "Insider" then posted this right after lol:
— Washington, which was considered his leader for most of the process isn't a factor.
— Steve obviously put in a Crystal Ball for USC tonight. We have not been able to confirm anything on that side of things, but there appears to be confidence around the USC program that Tufono is leaning that way. We have been told that USC is the only threat to Texas.
— From what we have been able to gather, there is also confidence around the Texas program that the Longhorns are in a great spot to land him. Todd Orlando and Jake Langi, who has strong Polynesian ties, have been working extremely hard in this recruitment. UT commit De'Gabriel Floyd is also close to Tufono.
— Tufono has not informed either staff of his decision, so this one appears to still be open. Texas is going to continue to throw everything at Tufono. However, this makes the decision to move up his timeline really interesting.
— I put in my Crystal Ball based on what I heard on the Texas side of things. Again, there is confidence around the program. But it appears USC feels the same way. -
I truly appreciate all the hard work you put into plagiarizing people's shit. Thank you sir.
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About to get real.GaryFromTeenMom said:Huh....late night Cristobal. Tufono to USC from Wiltfong. Texas247 "Insider" then posted this right after lol:
— Washington, which was considered his leader for most of the process isn't a factor.
— Steve obviously put in a Crystal Ball for USC tonight. We have not been able to confirm anything on that side of things, but there appears to be confidence around the USC program that Tufono is leaning that way. We have been told that USC is the only threat to Texas.
— From what we have been able to gather, there is also confidence around the Texas program that the Longhorns are in a great spot to land him. Todd Orlando and Jake Langi, who has strong Polynesian ties, have been working extremely hard in this recruitment. UT commit De'Gabriel Floyd is also close to Tufono.
— Tufono has not informed either staff of his decision, so this one appears to still be open. Texas is going to continue to throw everything at Tufono. However, this makes the decision to move up his timeline really interesting.
— I put in my Crystal Ball based on what I heard on the Texas side of things. Again, there is confidence around the program. But it appears USC feels the same way.
