It's Ngata over for Joe!!!
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Their wrs were winning 50/50 balls that whole second half vs Bama fwiw and our wrs do not look like that.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.
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I think WR (and the passing game in general) is underrated on this bored. You need stud receivers.AtomicDawg said:
Their wrs were winning 50/50 balls that whole second half vs Bama fwiw and our wrs do not look like that.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.
That said our WR class was full without Ngata and we have six stud underclass receivers already plus a good not great one coming in. Losing Ngata hurts because he's great. I can't think of a position it would hurt less at save maybe QB. -
It’s beyond the single recruit and single position. It’s an indication of what our coach is capable of. What his ceiling is. This is a massive signal of what the program will be capable of.AtomicDawg said:
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
Before Ngata to Clemson, if you asked me “Will Petersen ever win a CFB playoff game at UW” my answer would have been yes.
After this, I don’t think he will.
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This is seriously overrating the significance of one recruit.whlinder said:
It’s beyond the single recruit and single position. It’s an indication of what our coach is capable of. What his ceiling is. This is a massive signal of what the program will be capable of.AtomicDawg said:
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
Before Ngata to Clemson, if you asked me “Will Petersen ever win a CFB playoff game at UW” my answer would have been yes.
After this, I don’t think he will.
Pete is going to win a playoff game at UW.
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I don’t know about you guys, but I trust the coaches
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With no WRs set to graduate after 2018 and then bringing in Davis next year, barring any couch sales the 2019 roster will have 12 scholarship WRs. I'm pretty sure that's the most we've carried during the CP era and that's creeping into Slick Rick/Sark territory.
2019 Srs
Baccellia
Fuller
McClatcher
Pounds
2019 Jrs
Chincredible
Jones
2019 Sophs
Bynum
Cook
Lowe
Osborne
Spiker
2019 Frosh
Davis
We will graduate all our midget WRs after next year and then hopefully bring in a monster WR class. Of course still want Ngata but crying over passing on Delgado and Pittman is unnecessary. -
You're not very good at this.StrongArmCobra said:
Is this the most joy you get out of life? Trolling UW fans on a UW board after UW has slaughtered Oregon the past two seasons? Did any of us give a fuck when Talanoa Hufunga committed to USC? Little brother so insecure now he can't wait to take a jab at big brother every chance he gets.oregonblitzkrieg said:
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Would not shock me if 2 of the 4 2019 Sr's left after this year as I expect the Opera Singer and Pounds to largely get passed on the depth chart …insinceredawg said:With no WRs set to graduate after 2018 and then bringing in Davis next year, barring any couch sales the 2019 roster will have 12 scholarship WRs. I'm pretty sure that's the most we've carried during the CP era and that's creeping into Slick Rick/Sark territory.
2019 Srs
Baccellia
Fuller
McClatcher
Pounds
2019 Jrs
Chincredible
Jones
2019 Sophs
Bynum
Cook
Lowe
Osborne
Spiker
2019 Frosh
Davis
We will graduate all our midget WRs after next year and then hopefully bring in a monster WR class. Of course still want Ngata but crying over passing on Delgado and Pittman is unnecessary.
If Jones is as good as people think he could be he could leave after 2019 …
There's no guarantee who in the 2019 Soph region will be contributors … I'm not 100% convinced that Lowe doesn't get moved to RB at some point
2020 recruiting looks fucktastic at the moment
So, in other words, you could be looking at the 2020 and 2021 season as being very, very thin
Most of you aren't very good at the projection game.
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He’s gone. Get over it
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A great talent at any position helps. I would rather have a stud DL or OL simply because those players are harder to find on the West Coast, but pretending that WR's aren't important as long as you are good up front is FS.dnc said:
I think WR (and the passing game in general) is underrated on this bored. You need stud receivers.AtomicDawg said:
Their wrs were winning 50/50 balls that whole second half vs Bama fwiw and our wrs do not look like that.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.
That said our WR class was full without Ngata and we have six stud underclass receivers already plus a good not great one coming in. Losing Ngata hurts because he's great. I can't think of a position it would hurt less at save maybe QB. -
not looking good for us but I guess it isn't over until he signs. Hopefully we can at least get an official visit. Maybe once the the luster of the trip wears off and it starts to sink in that he will be 2,600 miles away from home....
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whlinder said:
It’s beyond the single recruit and single position. It’s an indication of what our coach is capable of. What his ceiling is. This is a massive signal of what the program will be capable of.AtomicDawg said:
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
Before Ngata to Clemson, if you asked me “Will Petersen ever win a CFB playoff game at UW” my answer would have been yes.
After this, I don’t think he will.
Alabama and Clemson don't get every recruit they want. All the heavyweights go toe to toe for all of the top talent, and each kid can only pick one of them. Local and regional advantages aren't as much of a fctor anymore, so we're going to have to get used to battles with national programs, many of which will be lost.whlinder said:
It’s beyond the single recruit and single position. It’s an indication of what our coach is capable of. What his ceiling is. This is a massive signal of what the program will be capable of.AtomicDawg said:
I do kInd of agree with you in that not bother me as much in that wr is one of the easiest positions to get high level talent at. But this was set up for success and the staff failed.BleachedAnusDawg said:I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past.
Before Ngata to Clemson, if you asked me “Will Petersen ever win a CFB playoff game at UW” my answer would have been yes.
After this, I don’t think he will.
None of this points toward Petersen being unable to win playoff games. He has won some of the recruiting battles too. Plus UW has Jones, spiker, and Ozzy coming up...all big, physical receivers. Pretending we'll never have guys like that is stupid. -
I'd rather be first than right, and would like to be the first to start the future war between Negas and Doogs over what Petermen is capable of.
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I honestly don’t disagree, and I feel slightly doogish for admitting that. Fuck it.dnc said:For real.
My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.
But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.
But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.
UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.
Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW
Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.
Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.
As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.
Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet. -
yeah, we gotta play well and hope that ngata gets homesick or wants to stay closer to family ... and mama ngata finds some sideways shit with clemson. we can only hope.
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Maybe we should drop by and visit Joe during Bear week.
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Serious question. Who is the last consensus 5 Star that UW signed and showed up to Fall Camp?
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Shaqsalemcoog said:Serious question. Who is the last consensus 5 Star that UW signed and showed up to Fall Camp?
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people forget that charles frederick was more highly touted than Reggie, people forget thatGladstone said: -
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No he wasn’tLoneStarDawg said: -
Ngata isn’t a consensus 5 Starsalemcoog said:Serious question. Who is the last consensus 5 Star that UW signed and showed up to Fall Camp?
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This was the start of my TBSing, i swear ET was #2 and Reggie was #3, but now I look and ET is a 4* and #7. hummm do they really rerank them once players have confirmed cases of homesickness?dnc said:
No he wasn’tLoneStarDawg said: -
By Scout Reggie was #2 and ET #3 WR in the nation at one poont (both 5 stars), though I think ET's ranking dropped before he got on campus. By Rivals Reggie was still very high (top 10 overall) but ET was a 4 star like 55ish overall.LoneStarDawg said:
This was the start of my TBSing, i swear ET was #2 and Reggie was #3, but now I look and ET is a 4* and #7. hummm do they really rerank them once players have confirmed cases of homesickness?dnc said:
No he wasn’tLoneStarDawg said: -
I think this was the time when Scout started ranking 1-5 at a position group as 5*. Number 6 would always be a 4*.LoneStarDawg said:
This was the start of my TBSing, i swear ET was #2 and Reggie was #3, but now I look and ET is a 4* and #7. hummm do they really rerank them once players have confirmed cases of homesickness?dnc said:
No he wasn’tLoneStarDawg said: -
Shaq by every metric was the highest rated recruit we ever signed. He was #3/4 overall recruit depending on the service.
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#mytoshDoogles said:Shaq by every metric was the highest rated recruit we ever signed. He was #3/4 overall recruit depending on the service.
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Reggie was right there, I'll try and dig it up but me and DDY had this conversation a couple months back.Doogles said:Shaq by every metric was the highest rated recruit we ever signed. He was #3/4 overall recruit depending on the service.
But yes I think Shaq was one or two spots higher than Reggie overall.
