It's Ngata over for Joe!!!
My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.
But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.
But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.
UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.
Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW
Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.
Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.
As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.
Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet.
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I agree with this. Was just too discouraged to say it. On the down side, other than Gee Scott it's looking like a tough pull for WR next year. Ngata not committing isn't disasterous in isolation because of our young WR talent but two poor years in a row starts putting you in a Strausser OL hole. No one wants to revisit that.dnc said:For real.
My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.
But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.
But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.
UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.
Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time on between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW
Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.
Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.
As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.
Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet. -
@theciscoshow got anymore kids?
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I'd prefer @jamesosborne1959Bread said:@theciscoshow got anymore kids?
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DPOTWdnc said:For real.
My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.
But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.
But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.
UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.
Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW
Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.
Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.
As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.
Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet. -
Cool so I'll put you down for agreeing, good talkinsinceredawg said:
DPOTWdnc said:For real.
My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.
But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.
But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.
UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.
Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW
Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.
Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.
As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.
Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet. -
It's over, shoot the fucking horse
I think we have a better chance at flipping Charbonnet than Ngata -
Fuck your optimism. He doesn't want to be with us. The only way he ends up at uw is if Clemson cools on him. Not happening.dnc said:For real.
My basic rule of thumb is that if a recruit commits to what is currently considered a better program than us (Bama, SC, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio State etc) it's over for us when they commit there. Obviously there are exceptions (hi Tuli), but we know Clemson isn't going to be incompetent with Joe like SC is.
But Ngata's the one recruit I feel differently about. I never bought into the "we have every advantage for him" line, Clemson has two massive ones - recent natty and first round WR's on top of first round WR's. Those things are huge.
But they won't change between here and signing day. They are static advantages.
UW's advantages OTOH are dynamic.
Who is he going to talk to more between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to spend more time with between now and signing day, UW players or Clemson players? UW
Who is he going to talk to more in person between now and signing day, UW coaches or Clemson coaches? UW
Where will he spend more time between now and signing day, Montlake or Death Valley (the lesser)? Montlake
Whose games will he see more of between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? We don't know but there's a real shot it's UW
Whose games will he attend more between now and signing day, UW or Clemson? Almost certainly UW
Yes, UW had all of these advantages last year and he still committed to Clemson. He's probably going to Clemson. But Ngata's in the rare position where he's still likely to be exposed to a ton of pro UW influence over the next four months. He's also in the rare spot where a) UW doesn't need someone at his position we are just holding a spot for him because he's special b) we aren't going to quit recruiting him because he committed elsewhere. UW's advantages are strongest during the football season, and 81% of the time between now and signing day is football season.
Now if UW takes another WR commit you can discard all this . But if we? don't (and we shouldn't), I think we still make a strong push for Ngata.
As a crazed bi-polar teen boy stocking maniac once said, it's not over til they sign.
Don't change @SpiritHorse's name to Elmer just yet. -
He gone.
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It’s fucking over ... only a DOOG would think it isn’t
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We’re so slow strategy that we don’t even want fast strategy Christian immigrants, Clemson out church schooled us? and it’s not even close.
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It’s all so wrong on so many levels .. I put 81% of the blame on Babushka and Browning ... 19% on Lubick ... which is still 100% all Lubick’s fault
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Holy fuck every once in a while i stumble over to this shithole but I never expected to find something as sad as this.
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Not everyone is so fortunate as to have a campus full of sluts and cocaine to do their recruiting for themPitchfork51 said:Holy fuck every once in a while i stumble over to this shithole but I never expected to find something as sad as this.
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Now more than ever, he gone. ISLYDNC
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DNC?! true?!!?11?!1!!?
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I'm not saying that UW didn't want him but they didn't want him as much as most of you here. They think he is raw and may be good someday but they never thought they had to get him
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Nothing wrong with a little delicious dinner cobra
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And we’re the sleeper for Ruben Foster!!!
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Lubick still has the Helfrich stink. It’s time to notice...
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Some of you need to dial it back. Seriously. It’s July.
UW will continue recruiting Ngata. There is a LONG way to go. A lot going on behind the scenes. Trust me on this.
Ngata’s father didn’t make the trip. Heard he doesn’t like long flights. Sure, Ngata commited. Yes, Clemson is a top-5 program.
It’s a Long way to the east coast. This a tight family. Dad doesn’t like airplanes, especially long flights that aren’t non-stop. Don’t underestimate big brother, Arial’s influence here.
Also, and this needs to stay HERE, Swinney has pissed a lot of coaches off with his tactics. Lots of red flags and smoke about how they get players. Hearing the NCAA has gotten wind of this. Only a matter of time before the media does too. Once mom, hears what’s out there on Swinney, she’s not going to like it. At all
DDY and Coker will have a POD up soon and explain more. Lots of stuff going on behind the scenes. They’ll share what they can.
Reminder: What’s said on the POD, stays on the POD. No exceptions. If we catch someone putting it out on the boards or tweeting it out—we know who you are
— you’re gone. No exceptions. This means you too, Fleens -
Had to check my browser because I honestly thought I was on Doogman
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lolBaseman said:Some of you need to dial it back. Seriously. It’s July.
UW will continue recruiting Ngata. There is a LONG way to go. A lot going on behind the scenes. Trust me on this.
Ngata’s father didn’t make the trip. Heard he doesn’t like long flights. Sure, Ngata commited. Yes, Clemson is a top-5 program.
It’s a Long way to the east coast. This a tight family. Dad doesn’t like airplanes, especially long flights that aren’t non-stop. Don’t underestimate big brother, Arial’s influence here.
Also, and this needs to stay HERE, Swinney has pissed a lot of coaches off with his tactics. Lots of red flags and smoke about how they get players. Hearing the NCAA has gotten wind of this. Only a matter of time before the media does too. Once mom, hears what’s out there on Swinney, she’s not going to like it. At all
DDY and Coker will have a POD up soon and explain more. Lots of stuff going on behind the scenes. They’ll share what they can.
Reminder: What’s said on the POD, stays on the POD. No exceptions. If we catch someone putting it out on the boards or tweeting it out—we know who you are — you’re gone. No exceptions. This means you too, Fleens
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Some of you can't handle the ups and downs. Go for a walk or Gate.
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I have been in communication with some Clemson insiders. Sounds like they plan on making Ngata bulk up and converting to TE. Sounds like he isn't aware yet. Expect him to look around again once he finds out.
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Is this the most joy you get out of life? Trolling UW fans on a UW board after UW has slaughtered Oregon the past two seasons? Did any of us give a fuck when Talanoa Hufunga committed to USC? Little brother so insecure now he can't wait to take a jab at big brother every chance he gets.oregonblitzkrieg said:
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I may be in the minority here, but I'm Ngatas worried about not signing this kid simply because the WR position is not as valuable as the OL/DL and QB positions. Look at what winning rosters focus most on and it ain't WR. Clempson isn't beating Bama for the championship without the beastly D-line they had and Watson at QB. The WR who caught the winning TD was a try-hard, white slot receiver.
That being said, it's still a fuck up to not pick Ngata in when UW was the favorite in the not-too-distant past. -
I chinned OBK for his courage for moving in—rent free, mind you—to your head.StrongArmCobra said:
Is this the most joy you get out of life? Trolling UW fans on a UW board after UW has slaughtered Oregon the past two seasons? Did any of us give a fuck when Talanoa Hufunga committed to USC? Little brother so insecure now he can't wait to take a jab at big brother every chance he gets.oregonblitzkrieg said: -
Missing on Ngata in 2019 doesn't matter if we get Ngata in 2020.
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