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WSJ: The Trump First Doctrine — Putin respects strength but Trump showed weakness

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  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800
    Swaye said:

    The part about Russia pretty well sums up my views. I'll leave EU and NATO and Britain to others to dissect. On Russia, he bungled it. Had a real chance there, but dropped the ball badly. His massive insecurities caused most of that debacle, as the author correctly points out. Putin will now just do whatever he wants for the next 2-6 years. And not backing our intel folks was just bad form. Look, I have worked for one of these three letter agencies. Trump has some legitimate complaints here, but that was not the correct forum for airing them. Looked JV to me. Gave Putin more power. Diminished his own. Like I said, he stepped on his own dick, and didn't have to.

    Here's the thing, I like Trump - well, I like what Trump has done to upset the apple cart in Washington, so it's fair to say I love what he represents. But this fragile ego thing is a constant source of befuddlement to me. What does Trump have to feel so fragile about? He rich as fuck. Nailed piles of hot chicks, and married to another super hot one. He is the leader of the free world. What am I missing? That question doesn't need answering.

    But, I will also add to this that all the useful idiots calling him a traitor are just stupid. Nothing he did even comes close to treason. Jesus. Get a grip people. It was a tremendously bungled presser, where he let his anger at Mueller get the better of him, and his intense distrust of the intel community almost ruin him. That's it. This isn't Benedict Arnold turning over the fort shit. Kill yourself Brennan.

    I think Trump is used to buying his politicians, through campaign contributions, not negotiating with them. His life has been making business deals with people who are concerned about the bottom line. Now he’s dealing with people who are concerned about votes, and could care less about spending other people’s money. He hasn’t adapted to his new reality.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,660
    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I'm not sure I totally buy it but a surprising number of people that have had the opportunity to fuck up Hillary's career have died.


    Maybe I'm just a shithead but I sometimes think "well if I was in her position and could get away with it I'd have them taken out too"

    Yet Trump is still alive. Would be easy to fake a heart attack.

    Trump could afford the best private security money can buy. He isnt some no name DNC staffer shot in a "botched robbery" with his wallet and watch still on him while walking home from work.
    Rich's parents condemned the conspiracy theorists and said that these individuals were exploiting their son's death for political gain, and their spokesperson called the conspiracy theorists "disgusting sociopaths".[14][15][16] They requested a retraction and apology from Fox News after the network promoted the conspiracy theory,[17] and sent a cease and desist letter to the investigator Fox News used.[7][16][17] The investigator stated that he had no evidence to back up the claims which Fox News attributed to him.[6][7][18] Fox News issued a retraction, but did not apologize or publicly explain what went wrong.[19] In return, the Rich family filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News in March 2018, stating "The pain and anguish that comes from seeing your murdered son's life and legacy treated as a mere political football is beyond comprehension."[20]


    None of that disproves what I said.
    Nothing proves what you said either.
    A long but worthwhile read:

    https://spectator.org/mr-mueller-was-the-dnc-server-actually-hacked-by-the-russians/
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Nothings changed with me

    The democrats unleash a torrent of bullshit and by the next day its washed out in the sewer

    Another failure. Be proud

    Failure is the perfect word to describe this administration. Solid work.
    Yeah the economy is really collapsing just like all the liberal economists predicted post election.
    What economist exactly predicted the economy would collapse? Although the tariffs could lead to a recession.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,660
    Everyone loved Assange until he said that Russia was not the source of the DNC leaks.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,444 Founders Club
    Tommy let me know when you guys can beat the "failure"

    Losers lose, loser
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    dflea said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    I'm not sure I totally buy it but a surprising number of people that have had the opportunity to fuck up Hillary's career have died.


    Maybe I'm just a shithead but I sometimes think "well if I was in her position and could get away with it I'd have them taken out too"

    Yet Trump is still alive. Would be easy to fake a heart attack.

    Trump could afford the best private security money can buy. He isnt some no name DNC staffer shot in a "botched robbery" with his wallet and watch still on him while walking home from work.
    Rich's parents condemned the conspiracy theorists and said that these individuals were exploiting their son's death for political gain, and their spokesperson called the conspiracy theorists "disgusting sociopaths".[14][15][16] They requested a retraction and apology from Fox News after the network promoted the conspiracy theory,[17] and sent a cease and desist letter to the investigator Fox News used.[7][16][17] The investigator stated that he had no evidence to back up the claims which Fox News attributed to him.[6][7][18] Fox News issued a retraction, but did not apologize or publicly explain what went wrong.[19] In return, the Rich family filed a defamation lawsuit against Fox News in March 2018, stating "The pain and anguish that comes from seeing your murdered son's life and legacy treated as a mere political football is beyond comprehension."[20]


    None of that disproves what I said.
    Nothing proves what you said either.
    A long but worthwhile read:

    https://spectator.org/mr-mueller-was-the-dnc-server-actually-hacked-by-the-russians/
    I'd forgotten about that Nation article. Must read for anyone concerned with all this.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,762
    Actions speak louder than words.