They're not coming for your guns

oregonblitzkrieg said:

This is the future if you don't vote. Socialists will eventually seize your guns. They have zero respect for the 2nd amendment. Putting cops in this position is unforgivable. Whoever is in charge of that state should be fucking arrested for violating the constitution.

See below OBK. It doesn't matter if the Reds respect it or not. 26% or more of the states in this country aren't abandoning the 2nd amendment.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

RaceBannon said:

Here is my compromise

Abortion is settled

Guns are settled

Find something else to fund raise on

I accept your compromise. When do we sign?

GrundleStiltzkin said:

YellowSnow said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

This is the future if you don't vote. Socialists will eventually seize your guns. They have zero respect for the 2nd amendment. Putting cops in this position is unforgivable. Whoever is in charge of that state should be fucking arrested for violating the constitution.

See below OBK. It doesn't matter if the Reds respect it or not. 26% or more of the states in this country aren't abandoning the 2nd amendment.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

True, but witness what's happened to 4A

It still works pretty well for the most part.

RaceBannon said:

The ironic thing to me is that the right to privacy that is somewhat unstated but implied according to the Supremes on Abortion is simply ignored and trashed when it comes to our surveillance state

We are specifically told that we have no expectation to privacy once we leave our house and even in our house or electronic devices are monitored routinely

We have no privacy. And the government is fine with that as are private interests

I've got nothing to hide. What are the rest of you worried about?

oregonblitzkrieg said:

YellowSnow said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

YellowSnow said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

This is the future if you don't vote. Socialists will eventually seize your guns. They have zero respect for the 2nd amendment. Putting cops in this position is unforgivable. Whoever is in charge of that state should be fucking arrested for violating the constitution.

See below OBK. It doesn't matter if the Reds respect it or not. 26% or more of the states in this country aren't abandoning the 2nd amendment.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Time to arrest people who violate the Constitution, including everyone involved in the creation of anti-constitutional state 'laws' that violate the 2nd amendment and allow gun seizure for spurious reasons. Time to arrest presidents of universities that don't honor the 1st amendment. Time to arrest sanctuary city mayors and governors of 'sanctuary states.' Time to put the ring sting on these bitches once and for all.

Fucking Christ, you sound just like the same Reds and Nazi revolutionaries you abhor. We don't just start arresting enemies of the state constitution on America, unless its some sort of national emergency- e.g., Lincoln and habeas corpus, Roosevelt and Japanese, etc. I AM FOR RULE OF LAW.

The 1st and 2nd amendments are under attack in this country and its not a national emergency. Sure.gif. The Constitution IS THE LAW. Unlawful seizure of guns is forbidden. Making so called laws that violate the 2nd amendment is illegal. Those that do so should be arrested for acts that violate the constitution, not their opposition to the constitution. HTH.

Also, presidents of universities that violate the 1st amendment in their policies should also be arrested for acts that violate the Constitution and removed from their posts. For this reason:

That the First Amendment applies on the public university campus is settled law. Public universities have long occupied a special niche in the Supreme Court’s First Amendment jurisprudence. Indeed, the Court has held that First Amendment protections on campus are necessary for the preservation of our democracy

https://thefire.org/in-court/state-of-the-law-speech-codes/

Drunk drivers get arrested. Burglars get arrested. Sanctuary city mayors and sanctuary state governors are FLOUTING immigration law, and should also be arrested. I don't understand how you can claim to be for the rule of law and not see the validity of these positions.

Exactly how are the 1st and 2nd Amendments losing ground? Guns sales have never been higher. People can get more and better guns in America than their fathers could ever have dreamed of. If you don't want to bake a cake for some feeg's wedding you don't have to. Trump is about to get another conservative justice on the court. Nothing to see here. Carry on.

oregonblitzkrieg said:

YellowSnow said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

YellowSnow said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

YellowSnow said:

oregonblitzkrieg said:

This is the future if you don't vote. Socialists will eventually seize your guns. They have zero respect for the 2nd amendment. Putting cops in this position is unforgivable. Whoever is in charge of that state should be fucking arrested for violating the constitution.

See below OBK. It doesn't matter if the Reds respect it or not. 26% or more of the states in this country aren't abandoning the 2nd amendment.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

Time to arrest people who violate the Constitution, including everyone involved in the creation of anti-constitutional state 'laws' that violate the 2nd amendment and allow gun seizure for spurious reasons. Time to arrest presidents of universities that don't honor the 1st amendment. Time to arrest sanctuary city mayors and governors of 'sanctuary states.' Time to put the ring sting on these bitches once and for all.

Fucking Christ, you sound just like the same Reds and Nazi revolutionaries you abhor. We don't just start arresting enemies of the state constitution on America, unless its some sort of national emergency- e.g., Lincoln and habeas corpus, Roosevelt and Japanese, etc. I AM FOR RULE OF LAW.

The 1st and 2nd amendments are under attack in this country and its not a national emergency. Sure.gif. The Constitution IS THE LAW. Unlawful seizure of guns is forbidden. Making so called laws that violate the 2nd amendment is illegal. Those that do so should be arrested for acts that violate the constitution, not their opposition to the constitution. HTH.

Also, presidents of universities that violate the 1st amendment in their policies should also be arrested for acts that violate the Constitution and removed from their posts. For this reason:

That the First Amendment applies on the public university campus is settled law. Public universities have long occupied a special niche in the Supreme Court’s First Amendment jurisprudence. Indeed, the Court has held that First Amendment protections on campus are necessary for the preservation of our democracy

https://thefire.org/in-court/state-of-the-law-speech-codes/

Drunk drivers get arrested. Burglars get arrested. Sanctuary city mayors and sanctuary state governors are FLOUTING immigration law, and should also be arrested. I don't understand how you can claim to be for the rule of law and not see the validity of these positions.

Exactly how are the 1st and 2nd Amendments losing ground? Guns sales have never been higher. People can get more and better guns in America than their fathers could ever have dreamed of. If you don't want to bake a cake for some feeg's wedding you don't have to. Trump is about to get another conservative justice on the court. Nothing to see here. Carry on.

Uh.... what does Trump's new justice have to do with any of this? Or gun sales? Or wedding cakes? Are we poasting in the same thread? You're tryna widen the scope. See the OP's original post and get back to me. Or not. Either way, it will or won't be chinteresting.

I care about evidence and things on a big picture level, not one off anecdotes. American popular opinion is overwhelmingly in favor of 2nd Amendment rights, therefore it is not going anywhere. Calm down and have a cold one, my quook fren. It's all gonna be OK.