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Socialism fact of the Day: Venezuela inflation tops 43,000%

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  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    To Doogbot's article's point, only real fucktards want means of production to be run by the state. APAG already summed this up in another thread, but a mix of capitalist and welfare elements are probably the ideal. Venezuela bullshit is a Hondo play by the conservative crowd.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,791 Founders Club

    To Doogbot's article's point, only real fucktards want means of production to be run by the state. APAG already summed this up in another thread, but a mix of capitalist and welfare elements are probably the ideal. Venezuela bullshit is a Hondo play by the conservative crowd.

    The "Scandinavian" model is a Hondo take by the progressive crowd. It's a 10,000 ft view of a mixed economy that is rich from selling a resource to the rest of the world that progressives try to point to as "successful democratic socialism" even though it's no such thing.

    I don't agree that a mix of capitalism and (state run) welfare are the ideal. I think the government is inherently a terrible buying agent and is nothing but super inefficient at such projects. It also restricts the freedoms of those it purports to help while distorting the market and crowding out private competition for the rest of us.

    The only times I see the government as being "the least bad option" are when you have significant negative externalities in a free market such as the military or the environment.
    Are you opposed to some amount of wealth transfer: Yay or Nay?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,791 Founders Club



    To Doogbot's article's point, only real fucktards want means of production to be run by the state. APAG already summed this up in another thread, but a mix of capitalist and welfare elements are probably the ideal. Venezuela bullshit is a Hondo play by the conservative crowd.

    The "Scandinavian" model is a Hondo take by the progressive crowd. It's a 10,000 ft view of a mixed economy that is rich from selling a resource to the rest of the world that progressives try to point to as "successful democratic socialism" even though it's no such thing.

    I don't agree that a mix of capitalism and (state run) welfare are the ideal. I think the government is inherently a terrible buying agent and is nothing but super inefficient at such projects. It also restricts the freedoms of those it purports to help while distorting the market and crowding out private competition for the rest of us.

    The only times I see the government as being "the least bad option" are when you have significant negative externalities in a free market such as the military or the environment.
    Are you opposed to some amount of wealth transfer: Yay or Nay?
    There are some schools of thought that a basic universal income in lieu of all the other myriad of transfer payments would have better overall outcomes. I’ve been back and forth on the idea depending on my level of alcohol consumption at any given point in time.
    I am very intrigued by UBI and believe it may become necessary because of the robot menace. The guvmint is good at writing checks but a terrible buying agent as @UW_Doog_Bot states. It's be a lot more efficient to just give people the money and let the free market work from there.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    To Doogbot's article's point, only real fucktards want means of production to be run by the state. APAG already summed this up in another thread, but a mix of capitalist and welfare elements are probably the ideal. Venezuela bullshit is a Hondo play by the conservative crowd.

    The "Scandinavian" model is a Hondo take by the progressive crowd. It's a 10,000 ft view of a mixed economy that is rich from selling a resource to the rest of the world that progressives try to point to as "successful democratic socialism" even though it's no such thing.

    I don't agree that a mix of capitalism and (state run) welfare are the ideal. I think the government is inherently a terrible buying agent and is nothing but super inefficient at such projects. It also restricts the freedoms of those it purports to help while distorting the market and crowding out private competition for the rest of us.

    The only times I see the government as being "the least bad option" are when you have significant negative externalities in a free market such as the military or the environment.
    I dont disagree about "Scandanavian Socialism" either
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,791 Founders Club

    To Doogbot's article's point, only real fucktards want means of production to be run by the state. APAG already summed this up in another thread, but a mix of capitalist and welfare elements are probably the ideal. Venezuela bullshit is a Hondo play by the conservative crowd.

    The "Scandinavian" model is a Hondo take by the progressive crowd. It's a 10,000 ft view of a mixed economy that is rich from selling a resource to the rest of the world that progressives try to point to as "successful democratic socialism" even though it's no such thing.

    I don't agree that a mix of capitalism and (state run) welfare are the ideal. I think the government is inherently a terrible buying agent and is nothing but super inefficient at such projects. It also restricts the freedoms of those it purports to help while distorting the market and crowding out private competition for the rest of us.

    The only times I see the government as being "the least bad option" are when you have significant negative externalities in a free market such as the military or the environment.
    * Norway's wealth is largely driven by extracting a valuable natural resource. Sweden actually makes some shit that people in N. Seattle and other parts of the world want to buy. Not sure what the Danes export...cookies? Queso?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,999 Founders Club

    I was going to chime in but Doog Bot is putting in a Yeoman's effort here. Carry on. Is ClassicalLiberalDoog available?

    Damone chimes in to state that he's not going to chime in. It's what he likes to do.