Wages falling dramatically
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I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.HardlyClothed said:
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.HoustonHusky said:Fucking eh...at a bar drunk in Russia so no idea if OP is serious or not but reality rulz.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wages-obama-economys-weakest-link-now-surging-under-trump/
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now. -
CuntRaceBannon said:
Pussy2001400ex said:
Yes that's what Fox news wants you to believe. And it works.RaceBannon said:
My post has nothing to do with logic or Fox News2001400ex said:
While Democrats will surely fuck it up. Your logic is right from Fox news. Nice work.RaceBannon said:Repeal the tax cuts and raise them on workers
Take the guns
Open the borders
Democrats 2018
Its chapter and verse from democrat leaders. And shills like you who are too big a pussy to come out a say it
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Are you in Russia? I don't think you've mentioned it in every post this past week.HoustonHusky said:
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.HardlyClothed said:
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.HoustonHusky said:Fucking eh...at a bar drunk in Russia so no idea if OP is serious or not but reality rulz.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wages-obama-economys-weakest-link-now-surging-under-trump/
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now. -
UWhuskytskeet said:
Are you in Russia? I don't think you've mentioned it in every post this past week.HoustonHusky said:
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.HardlyClothed said:
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.HoustonHusky said:Fucking eh...at a bar drunk in Russia so no idea if OP is serious or not but reality rulz.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wages-obama-economys-weakest-link-now-surging-under-trump/
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now.
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Fuck you guys. I'm hearing russia has the best hookers.
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If you're in Kamchatka I am. Or anywhere with a hot Russian hooker.HoustonHusky said:UWhuskytskeet said:
Are you in Russia? I don't think you've mentioned it in every post this past week.HoustonHusky said:
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.HardlyClothed said:
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.HoustonHusky said:Fucking eh...at a bar drunk in Russia so no idea if OP is serious or not but reality rulz.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wages-obama-economys-weakest-link-now-surging-under-trump/
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now. -
We’ve been told wages have been falling and “there is no middle class anymore” since Reagan. By now you’d think wages would be zero and there would be 20 rich people and 350 million people picking through garbage.
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The fact you think “trickle down” is an actual economic theory that anyone ever tried to implement speaks volumes. Dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
First, you sound jealous.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
you said trickle down doesnt work2001400ex said:
You made the exact point. Even through 3 periods of trickle down economics. The wealthy and large businesses still outsourced the jobs to other countries.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
it trickled to the chinks instead of the US where it had been trickling for the previous few decades2001400ex said:
Actually. If you must know.. That chart shows that trickle down does not work. But ok!SarkFanSixtyNine said:trickledown does work and did work
unless u wanna pretend china doesnt exist
for some reason boomers decided to bring billions of slave peasants suffering under authoritarian regimes into the workforce instead of enjoying prosperity and bringing third worlders in to replace the population instead of having children
on the bright side we do get cheap lawn care and plastic shit
youre wrong
look at seattle
i know a dozen utter retards making crazy money in tech solely due to their proximity to wealth
none of these people are globally competitive
Second, what do well paying tech jobs have to do with wealthy passing their tax cuts down to the middle class? They are well paid because of supply and demand. Not because of tax cuts or trickle down.
It's worse than talking to Houston. -
Da fuq?MikeDamone said:
The fact you think “trickle down” is an actual economic theory that anyone ever tried to implement speaks volumes. Dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
First, you sound jealous.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
you said trickle down doesnt work2001400ex said:
You made the exact point. Even through 3 periods of trickle down economics. The wealthy and large businesses still outsourced the jobs to other countries.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
it trickled to the chinks instead of the US where it had been trickling for the previous few decades2001400ex said:
Actually. If you must know.. That chart shows that trickle down does not work. But ok!SarkFanSixtyNine said:trickledown does work and did work
unless u wanna pretend china doesnt exist
for some reason boomers decided to bring billions of slave peasants suffering under authoritarian regimes into the workforce instead of enjoying prosperity and bringing third worlders in to replace the population instead of having children
on the bright side we do get cheap lawn care and plastic shit
youre wrong
look at seattle
i know a dozen utter retards making crazy money in tech solely due to their proximity to wealth
none of these people are globally competitive
Second, what do well paying tech jobs have to do with wealthy passing their tax cuts down to the middle class? They are well paid because of supply and demand. Not because of tax cuts or trickle down.
It's worse than talking to Houston.
Reaganomics (/reɪɡəˈnɒmɪks/; a portmanteau of [Ronald] Reagan and economics attributed to Paul Harvey)[1] refers to the economic policies promoted by U.S. President Ronald Reagan during the 1980s. These policies are commonly associated with supply-side economics, referred to as trickle-down economics or voodoo economics by political opponents, and free-market economics by political advocates.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-tax-cuts-boosting-american-workers-paychecks/ -
What a dumbfuck
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Is there a place in Russia where you aren’t around hot Russian hookers? I haven’t found it yet.dflea said:
If you're in Kamchatka I am. Or anywhere with a hot Russian hooker.HoustonHusky said:UWhuskytskeet said:
Are you in Russia? I don't think you've mentioned it in every post this past week.HoustonHusky said:
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.HardlyClothed said:
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.HoustonHusky said:Fucking eh...at a bar drunk in Russia so no idea if OP is serious or not but reality rulz.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wages-obama-economys-weakest-link-now-surging-under-trump/
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now.
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The 3 richest Americans have more money than the bottom 50%. The top 400 has more than 68%. We’re not all picking through yet though so I guess it’s ok.MikeDamone said:We’ve been told wages have been falling and “there is no middle class anymore” since Reagan. By now you’d think wages would be zero and there would be 20 rich people and 350 million people picking through garbage.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economicsMikeDamone said:
The fact you think “trickle down” is an actual economic theory that anyone ever tried to implement speaks volumes. Dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
First, you sound jealous.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
you said trickle down doesnt work2001400ex said:
You made the exact point. Even through 3 periods of trickle down economics. The wealthy and large businesses still outsourced the jobs to other countries.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
it trickled to the chinks instead of the US where it had been trickling for the previous few decades2001400ex said:
Actually. If you must know.. That chart shows that trickle down does not work. But ok!SarkFanSixtyNine said:trickledown does work and did work
unless u wanna pretend china doesnt exist
for some reason boomers decided to bring billions of slave peasants suffering under authoritarian regimes into the workforce instead of enjoying prosperity and bringing third worlders in to replace the population instead of having children
on the bright side we do get cheap lawn care and plastic shit
youre wrong
look at seattle
i know a dozen utter retards making crazy money in tech solely due to their proximity to wealth
none of these people are globally competitive
Second, what do well paying tech jobs have to do with wealthy passing their tax cuts down to the middle class? They are well paid because of supply and demand. Not because of tax cuts or trickle down.
It's worse than talking to Houston.
It’s literally the first sentence. -
Like clockwork... proving his point after your first response.2001400ex said:
Da fuq?MikeDamone said:
The fact you think “trickle down” is an actual economic theory that anyone ever tried to implement speaks volumes. Dumb fuck.2001400ex said:
First, you sound jealous.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
you said trickle down doesnt work2001400ex said:
You made the exact point. Even through 3 periods of trickle down economics. The wealthy and large businesses still outsourced the jobs to other countries.SarkFanSixtyNine said:
it trickled to the chinks instead of the US where it had been trickling for the previous few decades2001400ex said:
Actually. If you must know.. That chart shows that trickle down does not work. But ok!SarkFanSixtyNine said:trickledown does work and did work
unless u wanna pretend china doesnt exist
for some reason boomers decided to bring billions of slave peasants suffering under authoritarian regimes into the workforce instead of enjoying prosperity and bringing third worlders in to replace the population instead of having children
on the bright side we do get cheap lawn care and plastic shit
youre wrong
look at seattle
i know a dozen utter retards making crazy money in tech solely due to their proximity to wealth
none of these people are globally competitive
Second, what do well paying tech jobs have to do with wealthy passing their tax cuts down to the middle class? They are well paid because of supply and demand. Not because of tax cuts or trickle down.
It's worse than talking to Houston.
Reaganomics (/reɪɡəˈnɒmɪks/; a portmanteau of [Ronald] Reagan and economics attributed to Paul Harvey)[1] refers to the economic policies promoted by U.S. President Ronald Reagan during the 1980s. These policies are commonly associated with supply-side economics, referred to as trickle-down economics or voodoo economics by political opponents, and free-market economics by political advocates.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-tax-cuts-boosting-american-workers-paychecks/ -
The US gained wealth in the 1980’s and 90’s but those gains went almost entirely to the upper middle class and elite, hence flat wages and static median household net worth in that timespan.HoustonHusky said:
I’m not the fucktard who somehow thinks the 20% inflation rates of the late 1970s was a good thing for people, or somehow as a whole the US and it’s citizens didn’t gain massive amounts of wealth in the 1980s and 1990s or that the inflation rate has somehow been 2.9% since Trump was elected. I’m not the fucktard that posted some YouTube nut jobs having diarrhea of the mouth on things they don’t understand...I just posted (on my phone in the middle of Russia) a few simple articles showing they are morons.HardlyClothed said:
This is the 2nd time I remember your idiotic confusion of nominal wages with real wages.HoustonHusky said:Fucking eh...at a bar drunk in Russia so no idea if OP is serious or not but reality rulz.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps-best-since-the-great-recession.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/wages-obama-economys-weakest-link-now-surging-under-trump/
Real wages have barely increased since the 1980’s. For 2018 percentage increase in real wages is flat. Now shut the fuck up and get beat up by a Russian ultranationalist.
And fuck Russia...even their 5 star hotels have shitty air conditioning...I’m going to go pass out now. -
Wages aren’t falling, they’re flat.MikeDamone said:We’ve been told wages have been falling and “there is no middle class anymore” since Reagan. By now you’d think wages would be zero and there would be 20 rich people and 350 million people picking through garbage.
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Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame -
I blame you for damn near everything, so we have that in common.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame -
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy. -
This is why the socialists will take over the democrat party2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
Pussies like hondo who just spout a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense don't get votes
Not one solution in sight. Straw men and bogus allegations of things I never said to avoid making a point
Good job dumbass -
Race doesn't like the truth. You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. And don't even know what socialism is.RaceBannon said:
This is why the socialists will take over the democrat party2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
Pussies like hondo who just spout a bunch of bullshit that makes no sense don't get votes
Not one solution in sight. Straw men and bogus allegations of things I never said to avoid making a point
Good job dumbass -
What truth?
You don't have any idea what the word means -
I blame that shitty education you got at Olympia High School. Too close to too much government work I think.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
Bobcats have to claw their way out. We're all pretty tuff that way and ready to rumble when we graduate. -
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side. -
He hascreepycoug said:
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
#LOSER -
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.creepycoug said:
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker. -
I think you need to rethink that position.2001400ex said:
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.creepycoug said:
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
Leadership is hard. It's hard. -
That actually is my point. Those senior people do fuck it up. And when they do, they fire the employees and not themselves. Well except the CEO usually goes. And even in the midst of success, they are not allowing overtime at quarter end to make their numbers look good.creepycoug said:
I think you need to rethink that position.2001400ex said:
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.creepycoug said:
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
Leadership is hard. It's hard.
That's exactly why I don't work for a large corporation and I'm actually part of the senior management in the firm I work for. -
My friends that worked at and retired from Boeing will disagree.2001400ex said:
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.creepycoug said:
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker. -
So Hondo's Hamburgers is booming then?2001400ex said:
That actually is my point. Those senior people do fuck it up. And when they do, they fire the employees and not themselves. Well except the CEO usually goes. And even in the midst of success, they are not allowing overtime at quarter end to make their numbers look good.creepycoug said:
I think you need to rethink that position.2001400ex said:
True dat. Boeing has been kicking ass and the 787 was brilliant.creepycoug said:
If Boeing is stupid, then I want to be stupid. Company has been printing money for a few years now.2001400ex said:
While I'm in an industry that has high demand and do work most people in my field have zero desire to do (sorry @Swaye ). Most people are not like that. So when businesses fuck up the economy, and then they fire everyone except upper management who fucked it up... That's not a good recipe. Should the employees have diversified themselves better? Of course. But that's not reality for 80% of the people out there.RaceBannon said:Its odd how rich people get richer.
I've yet to see the legislation that brings others up., All we have is examples of everyone getting poor to be equal
Make sure to let me know when you have a better way
Even the politicians that have been crying about wage inequality for 20 years don't have a solution. Perhaps it is because history tells us this system gives the most the best chance and even the losers get lucky sometimes. Or get welfare
I've been poor and I've been middle and I can't think of anyone other than myself to blame
What's funny tho Race. People like you bitch about not having enough manufacturing in America. Them blame the low skilled worker when they can't find a job. Which is it?
Then big business like Boeing does stupid shit. They literally cut off overtime this week so they can hit their quarterly number. That hurts workers so the upper management can get a bigger bonus, much bigger than the average employee even makes. It's bullshit like that that causes resentment with the wealthy.
The only tim you have to worry about resentment of the wealthy is when the workers become a mob. As long as they just enough skin in the game to avoid anarchy and revolt, we're fine.
This country is about winners and losers. Pick a side.
My point is however. The system is setup where upper management gets paid at the expense of the average worker.
The implications for that system being wrong go well beyond corporate hierarchy.
Managing a complex, global multi-zillion organization is not responsibility for average people. It's actually a hard thing to do, and it's super easy to fuck it up. There is a local company that has been around for a very long tim that not long ago post very bad #s and lost a pile of cash in one year. New senior management team, and three years later, voila! The company is NOT losing a pile of cash, stock price is up, and they're doing well. Pension payments are being made on tim and people are still working.
It's also a huge responsibility. If those senior people fuck things up, all those workers you care so much about are screwed.
Leadership is hard. It's hard.
That's exactly why I don't work for a large corporation and I'm actually part of the senior management in the firm I work for.
