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My thoughts on the class so far (long)

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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    PurpleJ said:

    I know you are the not the most ready for conceptual analogies so let me try to explain it to you a different way:

    Imagine talent is rated on a scale from 1-5. (like stars - trying to make it easy on you)

    And a coach can multiply the talent any where from 0-2.

    What are the possible outcomes?

    0-10.

    Are you following?

    I'll wait for your response. Let's see if we can get this one licked today.

    If you trust recruiting analysts to accurately judge it every time, then sure. Sure Dennis. Sounds foolproof.
    IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME WAY TO SEE WHETHER THE RATINGS CORRESPONDED TO MEANINGFUL OUTCOMES!!!!!!!

    It's so difficult living in the 2049 BC. I wish I could fast forward to a time with a computer where this kind of thing would take seconds.
    See you in five years! Have fun overreacting! I will pray for your autism!
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    The forecast is always wrong.

    Rule fucking one.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
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    PurpleJ said:

    The forecast is always wrong.

    Rule fucking one.

    WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THAT NICK SABAN WITH GREAT RECRUITING CLASSES WOULD WIN?!?! WHO!?!?!

    WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED IT?!?!?!

    What a shame for you that non-perfect prediction means that everything is meaningless.

    What a shame for you that gas dynamics is not nearly as complicated as projecting football games.

    WHAT A SHAME FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE IN A TIME WHERE IT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE!!!

    I'm sure you're right. I'm sure none of this matters...

    Oh wait. Everyone who cares about winning football as a job thinks it's the most important thing they do.

    But they are probably wrong and you are right.

    Oh - wait hold on - I'm being told that the SECOND ORDER relationship between coaches evaluations and recruiting rankings are strong enough to generate a good predictive model.

    SORRY J!!!
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,097
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    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I'll let you know in four or five years! Time will tell! Either way it will be interesting!

    If only there were some way to predict how classes will turn out.
    Why even play the games at all? We can determine championships based on gold stars being handed out! The Ducks are back!

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    Take it to the 'Alabama is doing it the wrong way' bored.
    Let's hire Sark as their head coach and see what happens to all that talent.
    You might like to read this: https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/nick-saban-changed-college-footballs-recruiting-culture

    I'll summarize: Saban thinks recruiting is the most important thing he does.

    I'll summarize the relevance to this bored: Pete is much closer to Saban than to Sark.

    I will do some extra math for you:

    If you don't think recruiting matters, you are wrong.

    If you are arguing 'what matters more' then you are a fucking idiot who doesn't understand simple path models of causation.

    Most fucking Americans are so fucking retarded they cannot even conceptualize a world in which an outcome can have more than one variable affecting it... but it turns out...

    WAIT FOR IT




    WAIT FOR IT






    WAIR FOT IW






    WAIT... JUST A LITTLE LONGER...

















    WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!! WOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOW!!!!











    I can't remember who it was(recruiting coordinator?) that either came from Georgia to our staff or went to Georgia from our staff but they said we essentially recruit using a similar process. One of the differences being that Peterman tries to be even more personal in the process which inevitably means fewer offers.

    Georgia TBS's well
    Where are the fucking championships? I'll wait...
    Are you talking about Georgia specifically that just missed the championship in OT after being irrelevant forever? Then got a good recruiter and was suddenly a play away from a national title.

    Or were you talking about teams that recruit using that same Alabama system who have won 6 out of the last 10 championships.

    You just trolling at this point.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I'll let you know in four or five years! Time will tell! Either way it will be interesting!

    If only there were some way to predict how classes will turn out.
    Why even play the games at all? We can determine championships based on gold stars being handed out! The Ducks are back!

    image
    Take it to the 'Alabama is doing it the wrong way' bored.
    Let's hire Sark as their head coach and see what happens to all that talent.
    You might like to read this: https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/nick-saban-changed-college-footballs-recruiting-culture

    I'll summarize: Saban thinks recruiting is the most important thing he does.

    I'll summarize the relevance to this bored: Pete is much closer to Saban than to Sark.

    I will do some extra math for you:

    If you don't think recruiting matters, you are wrong.

    If you are arguing 'what matters more' then you are a fucking idiot who doesn't understand simple path models of causation.

    Most fucking Americans are so fucking retarded they cannot even conceptualize a world in which an outcome can have more than one variable affecting it... but it turns out...

    WAIT FOR IT




    WAIT FOR IT






    WAIR FOT IW






    WAIT... JUST A LITTLE LONGER...

















    WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!! WOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOW!!!!











    I can't remember who it was(recruiting coordinator?) that either came from Georgia to our staff or went to Georgia from our staff but they said we essentially recruit using a similar process. One of the differences being that Peterman tries to be even more personal in the process which inevitably means fewer offers.

    Georgia TBS's well
    Where are the fucking championships? I'll wait...
    Are you talking about Georgia specifically that just missed the championship in OT after being irrelevant forever? Then got a good recruiter and was suddenly a play away from a national title.

    Or were you talking about teams that recruit using that same Alabama system who have won 6 out of the last 10 championships.

    You just trolling at this point.
    Georgia has always had talent. Where are the fucking championships? Answer the fucking question!
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    PurpleJ said:

    The forecast is always wrong.

    Rule fucking one.

    WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THAT NICK SABAN WITH GREAT RECRUITING CLASSES WOULD WIN?!?! WHO!?!?!

    WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED IT?!?!?!

    What a shame for you that non-perfect prediction means that everything is meaningless.

    What a shame for you that gas dynamics is not nearly as complicated as projecting football games.

    WHAT A SHAME FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE IN A TIME WHERE IT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE FUTURE!!!

    I'm sure you're right. I'm sure none of this matters...

    Oh wait. Everyone who cares about winning football as a job thinks it's the most important thing they do.

    But they are probably wrong and you are right.

    Oh - wait hold on - I'm being told that the SECOND ORDER relationship between coaches evaluations and recruiting rankings are strong enough to generate a good predictive model.

    SORRY J!!!
    Disagree. Nick Saban could get by a bus tomorrow. Bet your model doesn't account for THAT.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
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    AS AN AMERICAN I DEMAND TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT TALENT OR COACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    So how many wins in 2023, Dennis? Thoughts? Let's see the spreadsheet!
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
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    PurpleJ said:

    So how many wins in 2023, Dennis? Thoughts? Let's see the spreadsheet!

    $10.95 first.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,377
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    Lost on DDY is the fact that I am the ultimate sophisticated euro fag. BRB world cup.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,794
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    AS AN AMERICAN I DEMAND TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT TALENT OR COACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,097
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    AS AN AMERICAN I DEMAND TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT TALENT OR COACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!


    This is a vote for talent right? The coaching was abysmal.
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