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Titus Toler, 2019 3* S, Bellflower (St. John Bosco), CA
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I guess disliking guys who only play for themselves makes you a racist in the eyes of Mr Diversity Fremont. If only we had more people like him this world would be a better place.bananasnblondes said:This thread seems to have taken a "dark" turn
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I was just making a stupid pun. I'm staying on the sidelines of this debatepat_hm said:
I guess disliking guys who only play for themselves makes you a racist in the eyes of Mr Diversity Fremont. If only we had more people like him this world would be a better place.bananasnblondes said:This thread seems to have taken a "dark" turn
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Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
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That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
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I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
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Try hard white guy? Find me a post where I advocated for that? You know it’s ok to disagree with people. We can all have different opinions. I happen to give Petersen the benefit of the doubt given his track record of developing talent. Others think he’s clueless and can’t relate to certain kids. I want the best football players who will do whatever it takes to win. Period.Thebourbinator said:
I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
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I’m using white in the stereotypical sense like labeling a blocking te as a WTE or an athletic pass catcher as BTE. Doesn’t mean they had to be white or black, but emulating that stereotypical play style where a WTE is ‘gritty, hard worker, first man in/last man out...’ type of guy typically associated with white players. So yeah, when you start saying you want guys that are humble, no ego, eager to learn etc you are exemplifying traits stereotypically associated with being white, and even if you aren’t tying these traits to being white it’s how it would come across to some individuals.pat_hm said:
Try hard white guy? Find me a post where I advocated for that? You know it’s ok to disagree with people. We can all have different opinions. I happen to give Petersen the benefit of the doubt given his track record of developing talent. Others think he’s clueless and can’t relate to certain kids. I want the best football players who will do whatever it takes to win. Period.Thebourbinator said:
I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
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I wana die
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Why not both?Thebourbinator said:
I’m using white in the stereotypical sense like labeling a blocking te as a WTE or an athletic pass catcher as BTE. Doesn’t mean they had to be white or black, but emulating that stereotypical play style where a WTE is ‘gritty, hard worker, first man in/last man out...’ type of guy typically associated with white players. So yeah, when you start saying you want guys that are humble, no ego, eager to learn etc you are exemplifying traits stereotypically associated with being white, and even if you aren’t tying these traits to being white it’s how it would come across to some individuals.pat_hm said:
Try hard white guy? Find me a post where I advocated for that? You know it’s ok to disagree with people. We can all have different opinions. I happen to give Petersen the benefit of the doubt given his track record of developing talent. Others think he’s clueless and can’t relate to certain kids. I want the best football players who will do whatever it takes to win. Period.Thebourbinator said:
I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
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Would you tardos argue in PMs so I don’t get notifications
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Yeah its pretty obvious why I took that shot at him and it wasn't just because of this thread.Thebourbinator said:
I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
Not surprising though that he wants to keep going down this tangent with a spree of shitpots and ignore my other post that actually rebutted his "argument."
Its just fucking hilarious to come into a thread about one of our most mediocre recruits and laud how badly he wants to work hard and play for CP in support of your dumb theories about culture. No shit Toler is saying all the right things, his only other decent offer is Colorado. What wouldn't he give to play at UW?
Maybe Toler blows up like Hampton. Its possible but more likely he fades away and we next see him playing at OSU or Fresno State.
EIther way- who cares what he has to say. We need to go after the best talent available not whatever kid wants to work hardest. And the facts are that Lake has gotten lots of talent and that is why our defensive backfield has been so good not because of kids that want to work really hard. -
BTW I am not sure if pat_hmm is confused on this poont but I am not actually the Fremont Troll (I don't think he can type) and I do not actually live under a bridge, or anywhere else, in Fremont. Carry on though.
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He looks like he a bit of length to him as well. Athleticism + Length. Lake can coach em up just get the dudes with length and speed.
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Ok...so what made Budda “talented?” His god given talent plus work ethic. He said that’s why he committed to the program. I think Lake/ Petersen specifically target guys who always want to be selfless and make the team better. James Obsorne said the exact same thing! Can we agree there are players that have all the talent in the world yet take plays off or don’t really push themselves? Guys that just care about themselves and not their teammates? I think that’s the key to our success. Finding that extra mental edge. That’s seriously the only point I’ve been trying to make. Same with Sid Jones. Lived in the film room. There were probably plenty of other 3 star corners (I believe he was #89 overall) who had superior film/physical traits yet Sid was the one drafted by the Eagles in the second round while Arrion Springs and Tyree Robinson, both superior physical talents who were rated higher by TBS sites and went to Oregon went undrafted this year. In hindsight it’s easy to see why we took Sidney Jones over those other guys but clearly the TBS sites don’t factor in those other intangibles. That’s the only point I’ve been trying to make. Black white poly whatever. If they don’t love the game, love the team then they’re not going to bring them into the program. And it’s hard for me to be critical given the results.FremontTroll said:
Yeah its pretty obvious why I took that shot at him and it wasn't just because of this thread.Thebourbinator said:
I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
Not surprising though that he wants to keep going down this tangent with a spree of shitpots and ignore my other post that actually rebutted his "argument."
Its just fucking hilarious to come into a thread about one of our most mediocre recruits and laud how badly he wants to work hard and play for CP in support of your dumb theories about culture. No shit Toler is saying all the right things, his only other decent offer is Colorado. What wouldn't he give to play at UW?
Maybe Toler blows up like Hampton. Its possible but more likely he fades away and we next see him playing at OSU or Fresno State.
EIther way- who cares what he has to say. We need to go after the best talent available not whatever kid wants to work hardest. And the facts are that Lake has gotten lots of talent and that is why our defensive backfield has been so good not because of kids that want to work really hard. -
The sexual tension is killing me.
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EIther way- who cares what he has to say. We need to go after the best talent available not whatever kid wants to work hardest. And the facts are that Lake has gotten lots of talent and that is why our defensive backfield has been so good not because of kids that want to work really hard.
This makes no sense. We can agree to disagree man. -
This is like hondo in the tug
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The play begins shortly after the death of the Roman emperor, with his two sons, Saturninus and Bassianus, squabbling over who will succeed him. Their conflict seems set to boil over into violence until a tribune, Marcus Andronicus, announces that the people's choice for the new emperor is Marcus's brother, Titus, who will shortly return to Rome from a victorious ten-year campaign against the Goths. Titus subsequently arrives to much fanfare, bearing with him as prisoners the Queen of the Goths (Tamora), her three sons (Alarbus, Chiron, and Demetrius), and Aaron the Moor (her secret lover). Despite Tamora's desperate pleas, Titus sacrifices her eldest son, Alarbus, to avenge the deaths of his own sons during the war. Distraught, Tamora and her two surviving sons vow to obtain revenge on Titus and his family.Dennis_DeYoung said:
No - he's better than Putney, but I'm not a big fan. I see him as not outstanding on tape or physically. So... yeah. Plus I hate people named Titus.HUSKYFANATIC said:
Like Putney sucks?Dennis_DeYoung said:He sucks.
Meanwhile, Titus refuses the offer of the throne, arguing that he is not fit to rule and instead supporting the claim of Saturninus, who then is duly elected. Saturninus tells Titus that for his first act as emperor, he will marry Titus's daughter Lavinia. Titus agrees, although Lavinia is already betrothed to Saturninus's brother, Bassianus, who refuses to give her up. Titus's sons tell Titus that Bassianus is in the right under Roman law, but Titus refuses to listen, accusing them all of treason. A scuffle breaks out, during which Titus kills his own son, Mutius. Saturninus then denounces the Andronici family for their effrontery and shocks Titus by marrying Tamora. Putting into motion her plan for revenge, Tamora advises Saturninus to pardon Bassianus and the Andronici family, which he reluctantly does.
During a royal hunt the following day, Aaron persuades Demetrius and Chiron to kill Bassianus, so they may rape Lavinia. They do so, throwing Bassianus's body into a pit and dragging Lavinia deep into the forest before violently raping her. To keep her from revealing what has happened, they cut out her tongue and cut off her hands. Meanwhile, Aaron writes a forged letter, which frames Titus's sons Martius and Quintus for the murder of Bassianus. Horrified at the death of his brother, Saturninus arrests Martius and Quintus, and sentences them to death.
Some time later, Marcus discovers the mutilated Lavinia and takes her to her father, who is still shocked at the accusations levelled at his sons, and upon seeing Lavinia, he is overcome with grief. Aaron then visits Titus and falsely tells him that Saturninus will spare Martius and Quintus if either Titus, Marcus, or Titus's remaining son, Lucius, cuts off one of their hands and sends it to him. Titus has Aaron cut off his (Titus') left hand and sends it to the emperor but, in return, a messenger brings Titus Martius and Quintus's severed heads, along with Titus's own severed hand. Desperate for revenge, Titus orders Lucius to flee Rome and raise an army among their former enemy, the Goths.
Later, Lavinia writes the names of her attackers in the dirt, using a stick held with her mouth and between her mutilated arms. Meanwhile, Tamora secretly gives birth to a mixed-race child, fathered by Aaron. Aaron kills the nurse to keep the child's race a secret and flees with the baby to save it from Saturninus' inevitable wrath. Thereafter, Lucius, marching on Rome with an army, captures Aaron and threatens to hang the infant. In order to save the baby, Aaron reveals the entire revenge plot to Lucius.
Back in Rome, Titus's behaviour suggests he might be deranged. Convinced of his madness, Tamora, Chiron, and Demetrius approach him, dressed as the spirits of Revenge, Murder, and Rape. Tamora (as Revenge) tells Titus that she will grant him revenge on all of his enemies if he can convince Lucius to postpone the imminent attack on Rome. Titus agrees and sends Marcus to invite Lucius to a reconciliatory feast. Revenge then offers to invite the Emperor and Tamora as well, and is about to leave when Titus insists that Rape and Murder (Chiron and Demetrius, respectively) stay with him. When Tamora is gone, Titus has them restrained, cuts their throats and drains their blood into a basin held by Lavinia. Titus morbidly tells Lavinia that he plans to "play the cook", grind the bones of Demetrius and Chiron into powder, and bake their heads.
The next day, during the feast at his house, Titus asks Saturninus if a father should kill his daughter when she has been raped. When Saturninus answers that he should, Titus kills Lavinia and tells Saturninus of the rape. When the Emperor calls for Chiron and Demetrius, Titus reveals that they have been baked in the pie Tamora has just been eating. Titus then kills Tamora and is immediately killed by Saturninus, who is subsequently killed by Lucius to avenge his father's death. Lucius is then proclaimed Emperor. He orders that Saturninus be given a state burial, that Tamora's body be thrown to the wild beasts outside the city, and that Aaron be buried chest-deep and left to die of thirst and starvation. Aaron, however, is unrepentant to the end, regretting only that he had not done more evil in his life. -
This makes no sense. We can agree to disagree man.pat_hm said:EIther way- who cares what he has to say. We need to go after the best talent available not whatever kid wants to work hardest. And the facts are that Lake has gotten lots of talent and that is why our defensive backfield has been so good not because of kids that want to work really hard.
"We can agree to disagree" says the guy who has been downvoting every comment that disagrees with him. Yup, you're clearly the voice of reason on this board. -
Nothing is that bad.WeakarmCobra said:This is like hondo in the tug
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"We can agree to disagree" says the guy who has been downvoting every comment that disagrees with him. Yup, you're clearly the voice of reason on this board.NorwegianHusky said:
This makes no sense. We can agree to disagree man.pat_hm said:EIther way- who cares what he has to say. We need to go after the best talent available not whatever kid wants to work hardest. And the facts are that Lake has gotten lots of talent and that is why our defensive backfield has been so good not because of kids that want to work really hard.
The downvote is the disagree. Agreed? -
Clean it up guys or let’s have a serious talk about Larry Wilcox.
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Cut his list down to 3: UW, ASU, CU.
Will visit in the season.
Better not take Asa's, Trent's, or Darrien's spot.....
Unless they commit elsewhere and we don't have other options. Then he can come and learn from the best like he's always wanted. Real OKG. -
Pats initial analysis was well thought and probably pretty accurate as to how the husky coaches analyze talent. It is fun to watch the chaos and aftermath of any thoughtful post though. I do like that sandwich joint in Fremont though.
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There's a reason why Asa and Cameron Williams are here now and he's waiting until the fall. I'm willing to bet he never takes that visit.DoogCourics said:Cut his list down to 3: UW, ASU, CU.
Will visit in the season.
Better not take Asa's, Trent's, or Darrien's spot.....
Unless they commit elsewhere and we don't have other options. Then he can come and learn from the best like he's always wanted. Real OKG. -
Say no to Titus
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When did Ohio State offer?FremontTroll said:
Yeah its pretty obvious why I took that shot at him and it wasn't just because of this thread.Thebourbinator said:
I don’t know man, you’ve been going on a pro slow strat/try hard why guy tangent, which is fine, and yes Petermen does seem to have an affinity for these players, but you’re also disregarding the fact that fast strat guys aren’t put into that category by choice, and given the opportunity to learn in a system like ours they could take all of that talent and flourish, or whatever the shit it is DDY is always rambling about...pat_hm said:
That would be Mr. Fremont. Apparently I offended the white guy who lives in Fremont.WeakarmCobra said:Wtf? Who the fuck introduced aids to this thread so fast
Not surprising though that he wants to keep going down this tangent with a spree of shitpots and ignore my other post that actually rebutted his "argument."
Its just fucking hilarious to come into a thread about one of our most mediocre recruits and laud how badly he wants to work hard and play for CP in support of your dumb theories about culture. No shit Toler is saying all the right things, his only other decent offer is Colorado. What wouldn't he give to play at UW?
Maybe Toler blows up like Hampton. Its possible but more likely he fades away and we next see him playing at OSU or Fresno State.
EIther way- who cares what he has to say. We need to go after the best talent available not whatever kid wants to work hardest. And the facts are that Lake has gotten lots of talent and that is why our defensive backfield has been so good not because of kids that want to work really hard. -
Let’s get Spam Chancellor and Darien Chase and call it good.
Maybe add LPJ or Javin Wright or some shit later. This kid is only ok. -
Best nickname this bored has ever come up with. Makes me laugh out loud everytime bahaha.Dennis_DeYoung said:Let’s get Spam Chancellor and Darien Chase and call it good.
Maybe add LPJ or Javin Wright or some shit later. This kid is only ok. -
Would KamFab end up at safety if that was our class?Dennis_DeYoung said:Let’s get Spam Chancellor and Darien Chase and call it good.
Maybe add LPJ or Javin Wright or some shit later. This kid is only ok.
