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Final 4 National Semi-Final Game - #1 Led Zeppelin vs #2 The Rolling Stones
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#2 The Rolling Stones
It was a short term marriage of convenience and that's it.oregonblitzkrieg said:Putin was a Rolling Stone.
The Bolsheviks want us to believe the Stones were always better at capturing the essence of 'Merican music- i.e., blues, soul, roots and country than the comp set inc Zeppelin. Now this.....YellowSnow said:
... for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries. For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.BearsWiin said:
I grew up during the Cold War. In order to best your adversary, you need to understnad himYellowSnow said:
It's almost like you are Soviet Union Superiority Guy sometimes.BearsWiin said:
Anybody can make historical references in a song. What makes Sympathy different and better than, say, We Didn't Start the Fire, is that it also makes references to the greatest novel to come out of the Soviet Union, and maybe one of the top three works of fiction written in the last hundred years. Fuck Pasternak, Bulgakov was the shit.YellowSnow said:
If you are a legit history noyd, then Sympathy is rather easily the best song of all time about historical events.BearsWiin said:
I almost chinned this poast. Almost.YellowSnow said:
Stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was a time for a change...oregonblitzkrieg said:
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#1 Led Zeppelin
Read and Fisher wrote a great book (Deadly Embrace) about it many years ago but didn't take the thesis far enough, possibly because they hadn't seen Suvorov's Icebreaker work yetYellowSnow said:
It was a short term marriage of convenience and that's it.oregonblitzkrieg said:Putin was a Rolling Stone.
The Bolsheviks want us to believe the Stones were always better at capturing the essence of 'Merican music- i.e., blues, soul, roots and country than the comp set inc Zeppelin. Now this.....YellowSnow said:
... for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries. For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.BearsWiin said:
I grew up during the Cold War. In order to best your adversary, you need to understnad himYellowSnow said:
It's almost like you are Soviet Union Superiority Guy sometimes.BearsWiin said:
Anybody can make historical references in a song. What makes Sympathy different and better than, say, We Didn't Start the Fire, is that it also makes references to the greatest novel to come out of the Soviet Union, and maybe one of the top three works of fiction written in the last hundred years. Fuck Pasternak, Bulgakov was the shit.YellowSnow said:
If you are a legit history noyd, then Sympathy is rather easily the best song of all time about historical events.BearsWiin said:
I almost chinned this poast. Almost.YellowSnow said:
Stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was a time for a change...oregonblitzkrieg said: -
#2 The Rolling Stones
Damn kiddies cramp my style lately when it comes to book learnin' but I recall your recommending Icebreaker.BearsWiin said:
Read and Fisher wrote a great book (Deadly Embrace) about it many years ago but didn't take the thesis far enough, possibly because they hadn't seen Suvorov's Icebreaker work yetYellowSnow said:
It was a short term marriage of convenience and that's it.oregonblitzkrieg said:Putin was a Rolling Stone.
The Bolsheviks want us to believe the Stones were always better at capturing the essence of 'Merican music- i.e., blues, soul, roots and country than the comp set inc Zeppelin. Now this.....YellowSnow said:
... for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries. For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.BearsWiin said:
I grew up during the Cold War. In order to best your adversary, you need to understnad himYellowSnow said:
It's almost like you are Soviet Union Superiority Guy sometimes.BearsWiin said:
Anybody can make historical references in a song. What makes Sympathy different and better than, say, We Didn't Start the Fire, is that it also makes references to the greatest novel to come out of the Soviet Union, and maybe one of the top three works of fiction written in the last hundred years. Fuck Pasternak, Bulgakov was the shit.YellowSnow said:
If you are a legit history noyd, then Sympathy is rather easily the best song of all time about historical events.BearsWiin said:
I almost chinned this poast. Almost.YellowSnow said:
Stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was a time for a change...oregonblitzkrieg said: -
#1 Led Zeppelin
Others have taken the work further, and Icebreaker is a bit hyperbolic and his timeline is off, even if the general premise is one I can get on bored with. Inside the Aquarium is a more fun work to read by Suvorov; it's a recounting of his own experiences in the GRU before he defected to the British.YellowSnow said:
Damn kiddies cramp my style lately when it comes to book learnin' but I recall your recommending Icebreaker.BearsWiin said:
Read and Fisher wrote a great book (Deadly Embrace) about it many years ago but didn't take the thesis far enough, possibly because they hadn't seen Suvorov's Icebreaker work yetYellowSnow said:
It was a short term marriage of convenience and that's it.oregonblitzkrieg said:Putin was a Rolling Stone.
The Bolsheviks want us to believe the Stones were always better at capturing the essence of 'Merican music- i.e., blues, soul, roots and country than the comp set inc Zeppelin. Now this.....YellowSnow said:
... for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries. For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.BearsWiin said:
I grew up during the Cold War. In order to best your adversary, you need to understnad himYellowSnow said:
It's almost like you are Soviet Union Superiority Guy sometimes.BearsWiin said:
Anybody can make historical references in a song. What makes Sympathy different and better than, say, We Didn't Start the Fire, is that it also makes references to the greatest novel to come out of the Soviet Union, and maybe one of the top three works of fiction written in the last hundred years. Fuck Pasternak, Bulgakov was the shit.YellowSnow said:
If you are a legit history noyd, then Sympathy is rather easily the best song of all time about historical events.BearsWiin said:
I almost chinned this poast. Almost.YellowSnow said:
Stuck around St. Petersburg when I saw it was a time for a change...oregonblitzkrieg said: -
#2 The Rolling StonesStones get the Hammer of the Gods 28-20. Zep onto the Natty game.
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#2 The Rolling StonesYou're all fags.
