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Sweet 16 (late 1970's to mid 1980's) - #3 Van Halen vs #7 Queen
YellowSnow
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Sweet 16 (late 1970's to mid 1980's) - #3 Van Halen vs #7 Queen 54 votes
#3 Van Halen
46%
25 votes
#7 Queen
53%
29 votes
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#7 QueenI am STILL with the gays!
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#7 QueenI like the upset potential here
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#7 Queen
@Doog_de_Jour is a for sure Queen vote. So that's one. @Dennis_DeYoung is reliably gay, so there's two.Tequilla said:I like the upset potential here
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#7 QueenNo judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#7 Queen
After @GrundleStiltzkin went U2 over Metallica, everything I thought I knew about the world has turned upside down.Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#3 Van Halen
Don’t have many f’s to give for either band. I can think of many more Van Halen songs off top than I can Queen. My favorite queen song is Nine Inch Nails cover of Get Down Make Love.Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#7 Queen@backthepack has better musical tastes than most of the losers who lived through this music.
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#3 Van HalenFor those keeping track, yesterday was the 37th anniversary of the release of Fair Warning.
Lord must strike that poor boy down.
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#3 Van Halen
Sorry Brave. I've listened to Achtung Baby probably a thousand tims. While every dickhead was fistpumpin "Exxxxiitttt light!" I was silently and morosely mouthing, "Baby baby baby, light my way" in the lonely backseat of a 87 Taurus.Swaye said:
After @GrundleStiltzkin went U2 over Metallica, everything I thought I knew about the world has turned upside down.Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#3 Van Halen
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#3 Van Halen
You even scratch bro?YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#3 Van Halen
Hells no bruh. I got one belt drive deck and no microphone.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You even scratch bro?YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#7 QueenQueen is timeless and eternal.
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#7 Queen
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#3 Van Halen
Huh. Eddie Van Halen being one of the most influential and original rock guitarist of all time is kinda the opposite of "generic rock". Nobody sounded like him whatsoever prior to 1978. Yeah, they were a "party" band, but the musicianship and the songwriting was terrific.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#7 Queen
I see moments when Eddie gets to shine through but it's a whole lot of meh to get to those. He's "super" in comparison to a lot of other generic rock but if you are into metal and other technically challenging guitar oriented music then he's "cool enough" while all the rest of the vocals/lyrics, harmonies, and everything else is super boring. "Eruption" is cool but my metal head friends were figuring out how to play it at 16...YellowSnow said:
Huh. Eddie Van Halen being one of the most influential and original rock guitarist of all time is kinda the opposite of "generic rock". Nobody sounded like him whatsoever prior to 1978. Yeah, they were a "party" band, but the musicianship and the songwriting was terrific.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
Just to be clear I was a shitty punk rocker and could at best play three chord songs so don't twist.
Idk put EVH with a different band and you could have had something much more interesting.
Edit: I've actually been listening to VH just to try and understand what everyone is on about but I really just don't get it. -
#3 Van Halen
I don't like my hard rock or metal to be too "technical" or overly "progressive"- e.g., I could never get into a group like Tool. If I want to go that route I find myself listening more and more to classical LPs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I see moments when Eddie gets to shine through but it's a whole lot of meh to get to those. He's "super" in comparison to a lot of other generic rock but if you are into metal and other technically challenging guitar oriented music then he's "cool enough" while all the rest of the vocals/lyrics, harmonies, and everything else is super boring. "Eruption" is cool but my metal head friends were figuring out how to play it at 16...YellowSnow said:
Huh. Eddie Van Halen being one of the most influential and original rock guitarist of all time is kinda the opposite of "generic rock". Nobody sounded like him whatsoever prior to 1978. Yeah, they were a "party" band, but the musicianship and the songwriting was terrific.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
Just to be clear I was a shitty punk rocker and could at best play three chord songs so don't twist.
Idk put EVH with a different band and you could have had something much more interesting.
Edit: I've actually been listening to VH just to try and understand what everyone is on about but I really just don't get it. -
#7 Queen
I love Tool, but I could never get into Dream Theater, because as much as I love how technical Metallica is, Dream Theater takes it to an absurd level.YellowSnow said:
I don't like my hard rock or metal to be too "technical" or overly "progressive"- e.g., I could never get into a group like Tool. If I want to go that route I find myself listening more and more to classical LPs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I see moments when Eddie gets to shine through but it's a whole lot of meh to get to those. He's "super" in comparison to a lot of other generic rock but if you are into metal and other technically challenging guitar oriented music then he's "cool enough" while all the rest of the vocals/lyrics, harmonies, and everything else is super boring. "Eruption" is cool but my metal head friends were figuring out how to play it at 16...YellowSnow said:
Huh. Eddie Van Halen being one of the most influential and original rock guitarist of all time is kinda the opposite of "generic rock". Nobody sounded like him whatsoever prior to 1978. Yeah, they were a "party" band, but the musicianship and the songwriting was terrific.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
Just to be clear I was a shitty punk rocker and could at best play three chord songs so don't twist.
Idk put EVH with a different band and you could have had something much more interesting.
Edit: I've actually been listening to VH just to try and understand what everyone is on about but I really just don't get it. -
#7 Queen
Gotta remember I'm listening to Van Halen at the earliest 10 years after they were popular. Any points they would have received for being "first" at the time are pretty washed for me. I can listen to Eddie and think, "Oh yeah, his guitar work is pretty good." but it's not wowing me on any progress scale because I'm listening to it in a spectrum of music and not in that moment in 1981 where it comes on the radio for the first time and is new and fresh. The rest of the band registers completely flat for me as uninteresting pablum. Put that together = meh, another generic 80's rock group that had a good guitarist who could shred and a lot of filler band mates with some "defying the man" front-man that a corporation marketed.YellowSnow said:
I don't like my hard rock or metal to be too "technical" or overly "progressive"- e.g., I could never get into a group like Tool. If I want to go that route I find myself listening more and more to classical LPs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I see moments when Eddie gets to shine through but it's a whole lot of meh to get to those. He's "super" in comparison to a lot of other generic rock but if you are into metal and other technically challenging guitar oriented music then he's "cool enough" while all the rest of the vocals/lyrics, harmonies, and everything else is super boring. "Eruption" is cool but my metal head friends were figuring out how to play it at 16...YellowSnow said:
Huh. Eddie Van Halen being one of the most influential and original rock guitarist of all time is kinda the opposite of "generic rock". Nobody sounded like him whatsoever prior to 1978. Yeah, they were a "party" band, but the musicianship and the songwriting was terrific.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
Just to be clear I was a shitty punk rocker and could at best play three chord songs so don't twist.
Idk put EVH with a different band and you could have had something much more interesting.
Edit: I've actually been listening to VH just to try and understand what everyone is on about but I really just don't get it.
I'm all for technical simplicity in music. I still listen to punk rock after all. My point was that Eddie is only a guitar god if your measuring him in the small pond that is 80's pop/rock. -
#3 Van Halen
And my weakness being a History major and all is I picture what it would have been like in 1978 to hear Eddie do his thing for the first time. I don't concern myself as much with the fact that some 16 year old kid nowadays can figure out Eruption. It's the same thing Chuck Berry. By today's standard's he's not a virtuoso, but he was the first and that's important in a lot of ways.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Gotta remember I'm listening to Van Halen at the earliest 10 years after they were popular. Any points they would have received for being "first" at the time are pretty washed for me. I can listen to Eddie and think, "Oh yeah, his guitar work is pretty good." but it's not wowing me on any progress scale because I'm listening to it in a spectrum of music and not in that moment in 1981 where it comes on the radio for the first time and is new and fresh. The rest of the band registers completely flat for me as uninteresting pablum. Put that together = meh, another generic 80's rock group that had a good guitarist who could shred and a lot of filler band mates with some "defying the man" front-man that a corporation marketed.YellowSnow said:
I don't like my hard rock or metal to be too "technical" or overly "progressive"- e.g., I could never get into a group like Tool. If I want to go that route I find myself listening more and more to classical LPs.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I see moments when Eddie gets to shine through but it's a whole lot of meh to get to those. He's "super" in comparison to a lot of other generic rock but if you are into metal and other technically challenging guitar oriented music then he's "cool enough" while all the rest of the vocals/lyrics, harmonies, and everything else is super boring. "Eruption" is cool but my metal head friends were figuring out how to play it at 16...YellowSnow said:
Huh. Eddie Van Halen being one of the most influential and original rock guitarist of all time is kinda the opposite of "generic rock". Nobody sounded like him whatsoever prior to 1978. Yeah, they were a "party" band, but the musicianship and the songwriting was terrific.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Idk maybe it's my age but VH just seems like a lot of other boring "generic rock" that was put out in the 80's. It's the type of stuff that's perfectly suited to car commercials. Nothing controversial and can make a bunch of old guys with middle incomes associate a mid-tier, moderately priced vehicle with their youth.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
Just to be clear I was a shitty punk rocker and could at best play three chord songs so don't twist.
Idk put EVH with a different band and you could have had something much more interesting.
Edit: I've actually been listening to VH just to try and understand what everyone is on about but I really just don't get it.
I'm all for technical simplicity in music. I still listen to punk rock after all. My point was that Eddie is only a guitar god if your measuring him in the small pond that is 80's pop/rock. -
#7 Queen
El oh el.YellowSnow said:
I like Queen fine and they had some great songs, but they just don't do it for me in the way the Diamond Dave era VH does. I've played the shit out of all of the first 6 VH records to the point of wearing out the grooves figuratively speaking, of course (my TT is set up perfectly with a tracking force of 1.75 grams).Doog_de_Jour said:No judgement, but I’m kinda surprised @GrundleStiltzkin and @YellowSnow voted for Van Halen.
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#7 QueenI was born long after Mercury died and Queen is just better. Die
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#7 QueenIf this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.
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I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songsBearsWiin said:If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.
And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place
Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special -
#7 Queen
Nothing in Sammy's solo career comes close to being as good as Rock Candy. He's better when somebody else writes his material.RaceBannon said:
I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songsBearsWiin said:If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.
And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place
Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special
Hagar got better when he joined Van Heflin. Van Heflin got worse when he joined them.
Never really liked Queen as a kid. We'd go to Europe and see their concert poasters plastered all over the place, and I could never figure it out. I like Queen more the older I get, same with Bob Seger. -
#3 Van Halen
Bob Seger is an underrated genius.BearsWiin said:
Nothing in Sammy's solo career comes close to being as good as Rock Candy. He's better when somebody else writes his material.RaceBannon said:
I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songsBearsWiin said:If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.
And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place
Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special
Hagar got better when he joined Van Heflin. Van Heflin got worse when he joined them.
Never really liked Queen as a kid. We'd go to Europe and see their concert poasters plastered all over the place, and I could never figure it out. I like Queen more the older I get, same with Bob Seger. -
Rock Candy is one of the threeBearsWiin said:
Nothing in Sammy's solo career comes close to being as good as Rock Candy. He's better when somebody else writes his material.RaceBannon said:
I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songsBearsWiin said:If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.
And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place
Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special
Hagar got better when he joined Van Heflin. Van Heflin got worse when he joined them.
Never really liked Queen as a kid. We'd go to Europe and see their concert poasters plastered all over the place, and I could never figure it out. I like Queen more the older I get, same with Bob Seger.
Your Love is Driving Me Crazy
I'll find Love Again -
#3 Van Halen
*Montrose track when Sammy was the lead/only singer - fun albumRaceBannon said:
*Rock Candy is one of the threeBearsWiin said:
Nothing in Sammy's solo career comes close to being as good as Rock Candy. He's better when somebody else writes his material.RaceBannon said:
I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songsBearsWiin said:If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.
And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place
Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special
Hagar got better when he joined Van Heflin. Van Heflin got worse when he joined them.
Never really liked Queen as a kid. We'd go to Europe and see their concert poasters plastered all over the place, and I could never figure it out. I like Queen more the older I get, same with Bob Seger.
Your Love is Driving Me Crazy
I'll find Love Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDO3qBo72M
I like this better though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUgW5CLk18
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#3 Van HalenWow - the gayme is tied up 20-20 with less than 24 hours to go. So far, I've only had to use my tie breaking skillz once which is a good thing.
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#3 Van HalenI like Queen, but their greatest hits album does not come close to how comprehensive Van Halen's is from the DLR years. A lot of people in here need some perspective.
