Video analysis: UW's 3rd down production on offense in 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLe1T7rHCNMHave a look and kickstart your memory. Yikes. This needs to be the biggest area of improvement in 2018. Edit: some of the sound encoding is fucked up, twas' done on my phone. Oh well.
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First clip is all I needed to watch.
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There's some good ... some bad ... lots of ugly
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Nice job. How do you edit tapes on your phone?
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Great stuff @Gladstone. Would like to see the D stats on 3rd+ downs some other time..
Browning is who we thought he was until proven otherwise. -
In case anyone wasn’t depressed enough that the weekend is over
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God bless you. Fuck Doogs who support Brownsocks.
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Thank allah that this is his last yearDennis_DeYoung said:God bless you. Fuck Doogs who support Brownsocks.
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Good chit, StoneyBoat.
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After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.
The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.
If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017. -
I appreciate your efforts, but I refuse to watch clips like this in the off-season.
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@GrundleStiltzkin you fuckbag, we need some choice GIFs out of this. @Gladstone what we really need in a 10 minute montage of Jake just running around like a moron in the backfield.
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Stanford gayme died on the failure to get the 4th down conversion.CheersWestDawg said:After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.
The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.
If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017. -
Jakes new spin move in to the arms of defenders please. Fucking babushka should be castrated for teaching him this shitDennis_DeYoung said:@GrundleStiltzkin you fuckbag, we need some choice GIFs out of this. @Gladstone what we really need in a 10 minute montage of Jake just running around like a moron in the backfield.
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WeakarmCobra said:
Fucking babushka should be castratedDennis_DeYoung said:@GrundleStiltzkin you fuckbag, we need some choice GIFs out of this. @Gladstone what we really need in a 10 minute montage of Jake just running around like a moron in the backfield.
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This brought on a crippling depression I hadn’t felt since 2017 ended.
Except for that first clip. That shit makes me feel ridiculously happy every time I see it. It’s impossible not to smile.
Then it’s 31:57 of just pure sadness.
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How many remember that UW led that game 14-10 at half?GrundleStiltzkin said:
Stanford gayme died on the failure to get the 4th down conversion.CheersWestDawg said:After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.
The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.
If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017. -
How do you edit on phone?
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Here's the thing about Seattle sports that I will never understand... until Jake makes LITERALLY NO GOOD THROWS on a third down, Doogs will support him. He would have to throw all interceptions for two games.
There's something about SEA sports fans' brains that says 'until someone can do nothing right, ever, they are 'FINE' and worth defending.
When Ty went 4-9 in '07 - it was 'HE WON FOUR GAMES!!' - I see the same shit with Jake, 'BUT WHAT ABOUT THE UTAH GAME!!?!! BUT WHAT ABOUT THE THROW TO AARON FULLER!!!?!?!'
Trace McSorley made more great throws in the FIRST HALF against our defense than Jake did in THE SEASON. Making like 5 good throws on third down per year doesn't make you an acceptable QB, it makes you a complete fucking disaster. Troy Williams made 3-4 good throws against us at Utah on 3rd downs.
SO FUCKING WHAT?!?!
If Jake were any good (spoiler: he's not) he would make 3-5 throws like that Aaron Fuller throw PER GAME. Not PER SEASON.
Our standards as fans are so fucking low that we can watch someone cock our season up and think 'well, he did things right 20% of the time!!' - Jesus fucking Christ we love losers.
The town is haunted by the '94 Sonics. Great when it doesn't count, falls apart when it does. Nobody gives a shit. 116 wins.
TRACE MCSORLEY MADE MORE GOOD THIRD DOWN THROWS IN THE FUCKING FIRST HALF THAN JAKE DID IN A SEASON!!!
Maybe that should alarm people.
Here are Jake's sack numbers from '17:
1st down: 3 in 147 attempts (2%)
2nd down: 2 in 111 attempts (2%)
3rd down: FUCKING FOURTEEN in SEVENTY FOUR ATTEMPTS (19%!!!)
Let's look at his running numbers:
1st down: 15 att, 39 yards
2nd down: 11 att, 23 yards
3rd down: 27 attempts for fucking NEGATIVE 73 YARDS!
In addition, when we are losing in games, Jake's numbers are like this:
60.5% completion percentage (as opposed to 72.5% when we are tied/winning)
12 sacks in 114 attempts- 11% (as opposed to 7 in 222 attempts - 3%)
24 for -60 rushing (as opposed to 32 for 85)
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Jake is so fucking terrible. Thanks for sharing this. I'm going to drink some gasoline and see what happens.
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3rd and 4th down efficiency are among the most misunderstood statistics in football.CheersWestDawg said:After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.
The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.
If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017.
UW was 16th in the nation in 3rd down conversion percentage in 2017. This DOES NOT mean UW and Browning had some kind of special sauce allowing them to magically convert 3rd and 6 more often than anyone else.
No, instead it means UW was likely facing much shorter distances on 3rd down as a result of:
1. Running the ball successfully on 1st and 2nd down.
2. Lack of explosive plays.
This is why you always see the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Georgia Southern leading the nation in 3rd down conversion % even when their option offenses aren't working particularly well. -
Running Lavon on 4&10 against the Beav is my favorite playcall ever
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Didn't even need to view it. Just the still of him and the box score against STDU was enough to trigger me.backthepack said:First clip is all I needed to watch.
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I like how the first Chin on Dennis's post is Dennis.
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I can’t chincredible the post from Dennis enough ... it’s what proves it is largely mental with Jake
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If Jake was black he'd be a pariah. It amazes me how much slack he gets from the general doog population. I mean ffs go to the ASU and Stanford games in the OP vid. Or fucking Rutgers game. How can he be defended so?
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We all know it. Jake is basically a shitty, choke artist Keith Price. At least Keith played well in SOME pressure situations.BaldwinIV said:If Jake was black he'd be a pariah. It amazes me how much slack he gets from the general doog population. I mean ffs go to the ASU and Stanford games in the OP vid. Or fucking Rutgers game. How can he be defended so?
Nuke Seattle.
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Keith was great as a sophomore and loved for it, then crapped on when he sucked his junior and senior years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
We all know it. Jake is basically a shitty, choke artist Keith Price. At least Keith played well in SOME pressure situations.BaldwinIV said:If Jake was black he'd be a pariah. It amazes me how much slack he gets from the general doog population. I mean ffs go to the ASU and Stanford games in the OP vid. Or fucking Rutgers game. How can he be defended so?
Nuke Seattle.
Keith was relentlessly crapped on by Husky fans.
I'll take sophomore Keith over any year of Browning but by the middle of his junior year he was so PTSD'd by Sark's inability to protect him from getting hit incessantly that he was pretty shitty. -
The Seattle inferiority complex is the most annoying thing about this town amongst sports fans.
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Wrong. Keith was beaten to shit his junior year and everyone blamed him rather than the obvious problem which was the OL.dnc said:
Keith was great as a sophomore and loved for it, then crapped on when he sucked his junior and senior years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
We all know it. Jake is basically a shitty, choke artist Keith Price. At least Keith played well in SOME pressure situations.BaldwinIV said:If Jake was black he'd be a pariah. It amazes me how much slack he gets from the general doog population. I mean ffs go to the ASU and Stanford games in the OP vid. Or fucking Rutgers game. How can he be defended so?
Nuke Seattle.
Keith was relentlessly crapped on by Husky fans.
I'll take sophomore Keith over any year of Browning but by the middle of his junior year he was so PTSD'd by Sark's inability to protect him from getting hit incessantly that he was pretty shitty.
In Jake's case, he is the MAJOR FUCKING WEAK POINT and the obvious strong point is Gaskin, but people act like Jake is a fucking Heisman candidate and Gaskin is a serviceable back.
It's complete fucking insanity.
Also, we win the Natty in '16 with Locker, Tui and maybe a healthy Price. Fuck - even Stanback. I've never seen a player be so loved for being so shit.
Jake every game makes like 2 real good throws, the rest are usually average. He also cocks up third downs and throws a bunch of bullshit and would-be pick sixes.
And because Pete is a fucking amazing coach and we have Myles on offense everyone attributes our wins to him.
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Price sucked. Browning also sucks.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Wrong. Keith was beaten to shit his junior year and everyone blamed him rather than the obvious problem which was the OL.dnc said:
Keith was great as a sophomore and loved for it, then crapped on when he sucked his junior and senior years.Dennis_DeYoung said:
We all know it. Jake is basically a shitty, choke artist Keith Price. At least Keith played well in SOME pressure situations.BaldwinIV said:If Jake was black he'd be a pariah. It amazes me how much slack he gets from the general doog population. I mean ffs go to the ASU and Stanford games in the OP vid. Or fucking Rutgers game. How can he be defended so?
Nuke Seattle.
Keith was relentlessly crapped on by Husky fans.
I'll take sophomore Keith over any year of Browning but by the middle of his junior year he was so PTSD'd by Sark's inability to protect him from getting hit incessantly that he was pretty shitty.
In Jake's case, he is the MAJOR FUCKING WEAK POINT and the obvious strong point is Gaskin, but people act like Jake is a fucking Heisman candidate and Gaskin is a serviceable back.
It's complete fucking insanity.
Also, we win the Natty in '16 with Locker, Tui and maybe a healthy Price. Fuck - even Stanback. I've never seen a player be so loved for being so shit.
Jake every game makes like 2 real good throws, the rest are usually average. He also cocks up third downs and throws a bunch of bullshit and would-be pick sixes.
And because Pete is a fucking amazing coach and we have Myles on offense everyone attributes our wins to him.
We would literally be better with Haener or Myles. Jake is a practice player.
