Round 1 (early 1970s) - #1 Led Zeppelin vs #16 Roxy Music

Foxy Knoxy > Roxy



(And, yeah, I know she's gone kind of bull dyke downhill since then - but I'm sure batshit crazy sex is still inside somewhere).

How many songs can you have about fucking wizards and bullshit?

Every last fucking character in Led Zep songs encounters some mist or haze or some shit. If you were an alien and came to earth and listened to LZ, you’d think that half of us were fucking minstrels.

Kashmir is the fucking shit.

chuck said:

I hate how this board continually reminds me how unconnected I am to popular culture. When pics get posted, like those of the chick in this thread, I'm stumped as to who they are 99/100 times. Everyone else here seems to know. Who is the chick?

Amanda Marie Knox (born July 9, 1987) is an American writer and activist who became known for spending almost four years in an Italian prison for a wrongful conviction of the 2007 murder of Meredith Kercher. Since her return to the United States, Knox has worked as a journalist and spokesperson.[1][2]

Contents
1 Early life
2 Italy
2.1 Summary
2.2 Perugia background
2.3 Via della Pergola 7
2.4 Discovery of body
2.5 Investigation
2.6 Interviews, arrest and arraignment
2.7 Italian legal procedure
2.8 Trial of Guede
2.9 First trial of Knox and Sollecito
2.9.1 Prosecution case
2.9.2 Defense case
2.10 Verdict and controversy
3 Acquittal and release
3.1 Retrial
3.2 Forensic controversy continues
3.3 Final decision
4 Personal life
5 Media
5.1 Books
5.2 Documentaries
6 See also
7 References
8 External links
Early life
Amanda Knox grew up in Seattle, Washington, with three younger sisters. Her mother, Edda Mellas, a mathematics teacher, and her father, Curt Knox, a vice president of finance at the local Macy's, divorced when Amanda was a few years old. Her stepfather, Chris Mellas, is an information technology consultant.[3][4][5]

Knox first travelled to Italy at the age of 15, when she visited Rome, Pisa, the Amalfi Coast, and the ruins of Pompeii on a family holiday. Her interest in the country was increased by the book Under the Tuscan Sun, which her mother gave to her.

Knox graduated in 2005 from the Seattle Preparatory School and studied linguistics at the University of Washington, where she made the university's dean's list and gained a reputation as one of the school's most attractive and charismatic students. She worked at part-time jobs to fund an academic year in Italy. Relatives described the 20-year-old Knox as charming but unwary.[6] Her stepfather had strong reservations about her going to Italy that year, as he felt she was still too naïve.[7]

Italy
Amanda Knox was vaulted into international attention when studying abroad in Italy at age 20. Knox was accused and imprisoned for murder.

Summary
Knox reportedly spent the night with her boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito; upon returning to the flat she shared with Kercher, she discovered her roommate dead. She became a suspect and during an interview—the conduct of which is a matter of dispute—she implicated herself, Sollecito, and her employer, Patrick Lumumba, all of whom were consequently charged with the murder. Forensic evidence from Kercher's body identified Rudy Guede, a petty criminal, and he, not Lumumba, faced charges. Although originally denying that Knox had any involvement, Guede later incriminated Knox as the killer. He was tried first and convicted, although not of actually inflicting fatal injuries. At the murder trial of Knox and Sollecito, American legal commentators were disturbed by courtroom attacks on her character and evidence officially ruled improper being heard by the jury nonetheless.

Both Knox and Sollecito were found guilty, which caused international controversy, as American forensics experts thought evidence at the crime scene was incompatible with their involvement. A prolonged and complex legal process continued after Knox's 2011 successful appeal. She was found not guilty of calunnia for saying she had been struck by policewomen during the interrogation, then re-convicted of the killing in 2014. In 2015, the murder case against her was dismissed by the Supreme Court of Italy, which definitively acquitted Knox and Sollecito of any involvement.

Perugia background
Perugia, the city where Kercher was murdered in her home, is known for its universities and large student population. There had reportedly not been a killing in the city for 20 years, but its prosecutors had been responsible for Italy's most controversial murder cases.[8][9] A charge originated by Perugia prosecutors resulted in the 2002 conviction of former Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti for ordering the murder of a journalist, and led to complaints that the justice system had "gone mad". The Supreme Court took the unusual step of definitively acquitting him the next year.[9][10]

In early 2002, Perugia prosecutor Giuliano Mignini, who enjoyed taking a detective-like role and was later to be in charge of the Kercher investigation, arraigned members of a respectable Masonic lodge for an alleged conspiracy. Mignini reportedly based the case on a theory involving serial killings and Satanic rites.[11] Mignini investigated fellow prosecutors for complicity in the supposed plot and appealed dismissals of the charges; there were no convictions in the case, which finally ended in 2010.[12][13] According to a scholar who researched comparative law in Italy, selective changes to the Italian legal system left it unable to cope when a prosecutor with Mignini's American-style adversarial approach used his powers to the fullest.[14]

Via della Pergola 7
In Perugia, Knox shared a four-bedroom, ground-floor apartment in a house at Via della Pergola 7.[15] Her flatmates were Kercher (a fellow exchange student) and two Italian women in their late twenties. Kercher and Knox moved in on September 10 and 20, 2007, respectively, meeting each other for the first time.[16] Knox was employed part-time at a bar, Le Chic, which was owned by a Congolese man, Diya Patrick Lumumba. She told flatmates that she was going to quit because he was not paying her; Lumumba denied this.[17] Kercher's English women friends saw relatively little of Knox, who preferred to mix with Italians.[18]

The walk-out semi-basement of the house was rented by young Italian men with whom both Kercher and Knox were friendly. One, Giacomo, spent time in the girls' flat due to a shared interest in music. Returning home at 2 am one night in mid-October, Knox, Kercher, Giacomo, and another basement resident met a basketball court acquaintance of the Italians, Rudy Guede.[19][20] Guede attached himself to the group and asked about Knox. He was invited into the basement by the Italians; Knox and then Kercher came down to join them. At 4:30 am Kercher left, saying she was going to bed, and Knox followed her out. Guede spent the rest of the night in the basement.[21] Knox recalled a second night out with Kercher and Giacomo in which Guede joined them and was allowed into the basement. He was never invited into the women's apartment.[22]

Three weeks before her death Kercher went with Knox to the EuroChocolate festival. On October 20, Kercher became romantically involved with Giacomo, after going to a nightclub with him as part of a small group that included Knox. Guede visited the basement later that day. On October 25, Kercher and Knox went to a concert where Knox met Raffaele Sollecito, a 23-year-old student. She began spending her time at his flat, a five-minute walk from Via della Pergola 7.[23]

Discovery of body
November 1 was a public holiday, and the Italians living in the house were away. Kercher was alone in the house when she returned at 9 pm that evening. Just after midday on November 2, Knox called Kercher's English phone, which Kercher kept in her jeans and could always be reached on, but the call was not answered.[24] Knox then called Romanelli, one of the two Italian trainee lawyers she and Kercher shared the apartment with, and in a mixture of Italian and English said she was worried something had happened to Kercher, as on going to Via della Pergola 7 apartment earlier that morning Knox had noticed an open front door, bloodstains (including a footprint) in the bathroom, and Kercher's bedroom door locked.[25] Knox and Sollecito then went to Via della Pergola 7, and on getting no answer from Kercher unsuccessfully tried to break in the bedroom door, leaving it noticeably damaged.[26] At 12:47 pm, Knox called her mother and was told to contact the police as an emergency.[27]

Sollecito called the Carabinieri, getting through at 12:51 PM. He was recorded telling them there had been a break-in with nothing taken, and the emergency was that Kercher's door was locked, she was not answering calls to her phone, and there were bloodstains.[27] Police telecommunications investigators arrived to inquire about an abandoned phone, which was in fact Kercher's Italian unit. Romanelli arrived and took over, explaining the situation to the police who were informed about Kercher's English phone, which had been handed in as a result of its ringing when Knox called it. On discovering Kercher's English phone had been found dumped, Romanelli demanded that the policemen force Kercher's bedroom door open, but they did not think the circumstances warranted damaging private property. The door was then kicked in by a strongly built friend of Romanelli's, and Kercher's body was discovered on the floor. She had been stabbed and died from exsanguination due to neck wounds.[28]

Amanda Marie Knox (aliyezaliwa Julai 9, 1987) ni mwandishi wa Marekani na mwanaharakati ambaye alijulikana kwa kutumia muda wa karibu miaka minne jela la Italia kwa sababu ya hatia ya uuaji wa 2007 wa Meredith Kercher. Tangu kurudi kwake Marekani, Knox amefanya kazi kama mwandishi wa habari na msemaji. [1] [2]

Yaliyomo
1 Maisha ya mapema
2 Italia
2.1 Muhtasari
2.2 Perugia background
2.3 kupitia della Pergola 7
2.4 Utambuzi wa mwili
Uchunguzi wa 2.5
2.6 Mahojiano, kukamatwa na kukatibiwa
2.7 utaratibu wa kisheria wa Italia
2.8 Jaribio la Guede
2.9 Jaribio la kwanza la Knox na Sollecito
2.9.1 kesi ya mashtaka
2.9.2 kesi ya ulinzi
2.10 Uamuzi na utata
3 Kujiunga na kutolewa
3.1 Rudisha tena
3.2 Utata wa maandishi ya kisayansi unaendelea
3.3 uamuzi wa mwisho
4 Maisha ya kibinafsi
5 Vyombo vya habari
5.1 Vitabu
5.2 Nyaraka
6 Angalia pia
Marejeleo 7
8 viungo vya nje
Maisha ya zamani
Amanda Knox alikulia huko Seattle, Washington, na dada watatu wadogo. Mama yake, Edda Mellas, mwalimu wa hisabati, na baba yake, Curt Knox, Makamu wa Rais wa Fedha huko Macy, waliachana wakati Amanda alikuwa na umri mdogo. Wazee wake, Chris Mellas, ni mshauri wa teknolojia ya habari. [3] [4] [5]

Knox kwanza alisafiri hadi Italia akiwa na umri wa miaka 15, alipomtembelea Roma, Pisa, Pwani ya Amalfi, na mabomo ya Pompeii kwenye likizo ya familia. Maslahi yake nchini iliongezeka kwa kitabu Chini ya Tuscan Sun, ambayo mama yake alimpa.

Knox alihitimu mwaka 2005 kutoka shule ya Seattle Preparatory na alisoma lugha katika Chuo Kikuu cha Washington, ambako alifanya orodha ya mwanafunzi wa chuo kikuu na akapata sifa kama mmoja wa wanafunzi wa kuvutia zaidi na wa charismatic. Alifanya kazi katika kazi za wakati mmoja ili kufadhili mwaka wa kitaaluma nchini Italia. Ndugu walielezea Knox mwenye umri wa miaka 20 akiwa haiba lakini hajatikani. [6] Baba yake mzee alikuwa na kutoridhika kwa nguvu juu ya kwenda kwake Italia mwaka huo, kama alivyoona kuwa bado ni naïve sana. [7]

Italia
Amanda Knox alikuwa amekwisha kuzingatia kimataifa wakati akijifunza nje ya nchi nchini Italia akiwa na umri wa miaka 20. Knox alihukumiwa na kufungwa kwa mauaji.

Muhtasari
Knox ameripotiwa alitumia usiku na mpenzi wake, Raffaele Sollecito; aliporejea kwenye gorofa alilokuwa akiwa na Kercher, aligundua mtu wa kulala naye aliyekufa. Alikuwa mtuhumiwa na wakati wa mahojiano-mwenendo wa jambo ambalo ni suala la mgongano-alijishughulisha mwenyewe, Sollecito, na mwajiri wake, Patrick Lumumba, wote ambao kwa hiyo walikuwa wameshtakiwa mauaji hayo. Ushahidi wa ushahidi kutoka kwa mwili wa Kercher ulibainisha Rudy Guede, mhalifu mdogo, na yeye, si Lumumba, alishtakiwa mashtaka. Ingawa awali alikanusha kwamba Knox alikuwa na ushiriki wowote, Guede baadaye alimshtaki Knox kama muuaji. Alijaribiwa kwanza na mwenye hatia, ingawa sio ya kweli ya kusababisha majeruhi mauti. Katika kesi ya mauaji ya Knox na Sollecito, wachunguzi wa kisheria wa Marekani walifadhaika na mashambulizi ya chumba cha mahakama juu ya tabia yake na ushahidi rasmi ulihukumiwa usiofaa na jurida hata hivyo.

Wote Knox na Sollecito walipatikana na hatia, ambayo ilisababishwa na utata wa kimataifa, kama wataalamu wa wataalam wa kisayansi wa Marekani walifikiri ushahidi kwenye eneo la uhalifu haukupatana na ushirikishwaji wao. Mchakato wa kisheria wa muda mrefu na ngumu uliendelea baada ya kukata rufaa ya Knox 2011. Alionekana kuwa hana hatia ya calunnia kwa kusema kuwa ameshtakiwa na polisi wakati wa kuhojiwa, halafu akahukumiwa tena na mauaji mwaka wa 2014. Mwaka 2015, kesi ya mauaji dhidi yake ilifukuzwa na Mahakama Kuu ya Italia, ambayo imetolewa kwa hakika Knox na Sollecito ya ushiriki wowote.

Perugia background
Perugia, mji ambapo Kercher aliuawa nyumbani mwake, inajulikana kwa vyuo vikuu na idadi kubwa ya wanafunzi. Kulikuwa na taarifa kuwa haikuwa mauaji katika mji kwa miaka 20, lakini waendesha mashitaka wake walikuwa na wajibu wa kesi za mauaji ya Italia zaidi. [8] [9] Kesi iliyotolewa na waendesha mashtaka ya Perugia ilisababisha hukumu ya 2002 ya Waziri Mkuu wa zamani Giulio Andreotti kwa kuagiza mauaji ya mwandishi wa habari, na kusababisha malalamiko kuwa mfumo wa haki "umekuwa wazimu". Mahakama Kuu imechukua hatua isiyo ya kawaida ya kumpeleka kwa hakika mwaka ujao. [9] [10]

Mwanzoni mwa mwaka 2002, mwendesha mashitaka wa Perugia Giuliano Mignini, ambaye alifurahia kuchukua jukumu la upelelezi na baadaye alikuwa anayehusika na uchunguzi wa Kercher, wanachama wa Masonic wa makao ya kulala kwa heshima. Inaonekana kuwa Mignini alisisitiza kesi hiyo juu ya nadharia inayohusisha mauaji makubwa na ibada za Shetani. [11] Mignini alifanya uchunguzi wa waendesha mashitaka wenzao kwa ushirika katika uamuzi wa uhalifu na rufaa ya mashtaka; hakuwa na hatia katika kesi hiyo, ambayo hatimaye ilimalizika mwaka 2010. [12] [13] Kwa mujibu wa mwanasayansi ambaye alifanya utafiti wa sheria ya kulinganisha nchini Italia, mabadiliko ya kuchagua kwa mfumo wa kisheria wa Italia yaliacha kushindwa kukabiliana wakati mwendesha mashitaka aliyekuwa na mbinu ya adhabu ya Mignini ya Marekani alitumia nguvu zake kwa ukamilifu. [14]

Kupitia della Pergola 7
Katika Perugia, Knox alishiriki ghorofa ya ghorofa nne, sakafu ya nyumba katika nyumba ya Via Della Pergola 7. [15] Wageni wake walikuwa Kercher (mwanafunzi wa kubadilishana mwenzake) na wanawake wawili wa Italia katika miaka yao ya ishirini. Kercher na Knox walihamia Septemba 10 na 20, 2007, kwa mtiririko huo, kukutana kwa mara ya kwanza. [16]

Knox aliajiriwa wakati mmoja kwenye bar, Le Chic, ambayo ilikuwa inayomilikiwa na mtu wa Kongo, Diya Patrick Lumumba. Aliwaambia wapenzi wake kwamba angeenda kuacha kwa sababu hakumlipa; Lumumba alikanusha hili. [17] Wafanyakazi wa Kiingereza wa Kercher waliona kidogo sana ya Knox, ambao walipenda kuchanganya na Italia. [18] Kundi la chini la nyumba lililokuwa likiondoka lilipotwa na vijana wa Kiitaliano ambao Kercher na Knox walikuwa wa kirafiki. Moja, Giacomo, alitumia muda katika gorofa la wasichana kutokana na maslahi ya pamoja ya muziki. Kurudi nyumbani saa 2 usiku mmoja katikati ya mwezi wa Oktoba, Knox, Kercher, Giacomo, na mwingine aliyeketi chini ya ardhi walipata ujuzi wa mahakama ya mpira wa kikapu wa Italia, Rudy Guede. [19] [20]

Guede alijiunga na kikundi na akauliza juu ya Knox. Alialikwa kwenye ghorofa na Waitaliano; Knox kisha Kercher alikuja ili kujiunga nao. Saa 4:30 asubuhi Kercher alishoto, akisema analala, na Knox akamfuata nje. Guede alitumia usiku wote katika ghorofa. [21] Knox alikumbuka usiku wa pili nje na Kercher na Giacomo ambayo Guede alijiunga nao na kuruhusiwa kwenye ghorofa. Hakuwahi kualikwa ndani ya ghorofa la wanawake. [22] Wiki tatu kabla ya kifo chake Kercher akaenda pamoja na Knox kwenye tamasha la EuroChocolate.

Mnamo Oktoba 20, Kercher alianza kushirikiana na Giacomo, baada ya kwenda klabu ya usiku pamoja naye kama sehemu ya kikundi kidogo kilichojumuisha Knox. Guede alitembelea ghorofa baadaye siku hiyo. Mnamo Oktoba 25, Kercher na Knox walikwenda kwenye tamasha ambapo Knox alikutana na Raffaele Sollecito, mwanafunzi mwenye umri wa miaka 23. Alianza kutumia muda wake kwenye gorofa yake, kutembea dakika tano kutoka Via della Pergola 7. [23] Kupatikana kwa mwili Novemba 1 ilikuwa likizo ya umma, na Italia waliokuwa ndani ya nyumba walikuwa mbali. Kercher alikuwa peke yake nyumbani wakati aliporudi saa 9 jioni jioni hiyo. Kabla ya jioni mnamo Novemba 2, Knox aliita simu ya Kiingereza ya Kercher, ambayo Kercher iliiweka katika jeans yake na inaweza kufikiwa daima, lakini simu haikujibu. [24]

Knox kisha aitwaye Romanelli, mmoja wa wanasheria wawili wa Kiitaliano yeye na Kercher waliishi pamoja na nyumba hiyo, na katika mchanganyiko wa Italia na Kiingereza walisema alikuwa na wasiwasi kitu kilichotokea kwa Kercher, kama kwenda kwenye nyumba ya della Pergola 7 mapema asubuhi hiyo Knox alikuwa ameona mlango wa mlango wa wazi, damustains (ikiwa ni pamoja na alama ya miguu) katika bafuni, na mlango wa chumba cha kulala cha Kercher imefungwa. [25] Knox na Sollecito kisha walikwenda Via Della Pergola 7, na bila kupata jibu kutoka Kercher hakufanikiwa kujaribu kuvunja mlango wa chumba cha kulala, na kuachia kuharibiwa. [26]


Saa 12:47 jioni, Knox alimwita mama yake na aliambiwa kuwasiliana na polisi kama dharura. [27] Sollecito aitwaye Carabinieri, akipata saa 12:51 alasiri. Aliandikwa akiwaambia kuwa kulikuwa na mapumziko na hakuna chochote kilichochukuliwa, na dharura ilikuwa kwamba mlango wa Kercher ulifungwa, hakuwa na majibu ya simu yake, na kulikuwa na vidonda vya damu. [27] Wachunguzi wa mawasiliano ya polisi waliwasili ili kuuliza juu ya simu iliyoachwa, ambayo kwa kweli ilikuwa kitengo cha Italia cha Kercher. Romanelli alikuja na kuchukua, akielezea hali hiyo kwa polisi waliotambuliwa kuhusu simu ya Kiingereza ya Kercher, ambayo ilikuwa imetolewa kwa sababu ya kupigia simu wakati Knox aliiita. Wakati wa kugundua simu ya Kiingereza ya Kercher imepatikana kutupwa, Romanelli alidai kwamba polisi wafungue mlango wa chumba cha kulala cha Kercher wazi, lakini hawakufikiri hali hiyo ilizuia mali binafsi yenye uharibifu. Kisha mlango ukachaguliwa na rafiki maarufu wa Romanelli, na mwili wa Kercher uligunduliwa kwenye sakafu. Alikuwa amejeruhiwa na kufa kutokana na exsanguination kutokana na majeraha ya shingo. [28]

kutomba mbali na kufa

I like the stories about Jimmy Page's haunted Loch Ness house, which was once owned by Aleister Crowley, "the most evil man in Scotland" and a practicing warlock. Apparently Jimmy conjured real spirits there, and they still roam the hallways of the Boleskine House to this day, banging on doors at night and shit.

Dennis_DeYoung said:

How many songs can you have about fucking wizards and bullshit?

Fags don’t appreciate dripping honey.