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Round 1 (late 1980's to present) - #5 Guns n' Roses vs #12 Rage Against the Machine

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Round 1 (late 1980's to present) - #5 Guns n' Roses vs #12 Rage Against the Machine 41 votes

#5 Guns n' Roses
68%
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#12 Rage Against the Machine
31%
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  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    21 guns that is all.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,682 Swaye's Wigwam
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Meh on both. I don't change the station if either plays.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I really like Rage minus the far left politics. They had a unique, angry sound which fused several genres.... but GNR was clearly the best hair band and it's not close.

    This.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I really like Rage minus the far left politics. They had a unique, angry sound which fused several genres.... but GNR was clearly the best hair band and it's not close.

    Yep, Morello's easily the best guitar player to emerge post grunge. Really unique, chinteresting band. But GnR are fucking legends.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    FWIW I'd take Rage over anyone in this bracket after #5 except Weezer and Soundgarden.

    They're a top 8 seed for me, of these 16 anyway. I'd still have them below AiC, Smashing Pumpkins and Muse.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,127 Founders Club
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    Fucking hated GnR all the way back to the 80's when I was a shit kicking little punk rock kid and still do. I have some respect for Slash but Axl was the ultimate faux tough guy. How their music ever got a reputation for being "hard" is still completely beyond me. They are in the same category as Bon Jovi for me.


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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    that's pretty fair, but I can's stand Axl Rose...
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,127 Founders Club
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    Axl is a trainwreck of a marginal human being.

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Kinda surprised Rage isn't getting more love from the Cornell fanboys.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,127 Founders Club
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.

    My vote is less "for" Rage and more against GnR. I have a lot of hate in my life.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.

    My vote is less "for" Rage and more against GnR. I have a lot of hate in my life.
    Rage is awful.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,127 Founders Club
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.

    My vote is less "for" Rage and more against GnR. I have a lot of hate in my life.
    GnR is awful.
    Are we even arguing?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    dnc said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I really like Rage minus the far left politics. They had a unique, angry sound which fused several genres.... but GNR was clearly the best hair band and it's not close.

    Yep, Morello's easily the best guitar player to emerge post grunge. Really unique, chinteresting band. But GnR are fucking legends.
    I left out Jack White. I actually prefer White. Morello's still probably better, but it shouldn't have said easily the best.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,127 Founders Club
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I really like Rage minus the far left politics. They had a unique, angry sound which fused several genres.... but GNR was clearly the best hair band and it's not close.

    Yep, Morello's easily the best guitar player to emerge post grunge. Really unique, chinteresting band. But GnR are fucking legends.
    I left out Jack White. I actually prefer White. Morello's still probably better, but it shouldn't have said easily the best.
    John Frusciante(whether you like RHCP or not) is also an amazing guitarist with all kinds of range and technical talent. Not saying he's the best but he belongs in the conversation.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I really like Rage minus the far left politics. They had a unique, angry sound which fused several genres.... but GNR was clearly the best hair band and it's not close.

    Yep, Morello's easily the best guitar player to emerge post grunge. Really unique, chinteresting band. But GnR are fucking legends.
    I left out Jack White. I actually prefer White. Morello's still probably better, but it shouldn't have said easily the best.
    John Frusciante(whether you like RHCP or not) is also an amazing guitarist with all kinds of range and technical talent. Not saying he's the best but he belongs in the conversation.
    I like RHCP, but I've never thought Frusciante was at the guitar god level of the other two.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,127 Founders Club
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    dnc said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

    I really like Rage minus the far left politics. They had a unique, angry sound which fused several genres.... but GNR was clearly the best hair band and it's not close.

    Yep, Morello's easily the best guitar player to emerge post grunge. Really unique, chinteresting band. But GnR are fucking legends.
    I left out Jack White. I actually prefer White. Morello's still probably better, but it shouldn't have said easily the best.
    John Frusciante(whether you like RHCP or not) is also an amazing guitarist with all kinds of range and technical talent. Not saying he's the best but he belongs in the conversation.
    I like RHCP, but I've never thought Frusciante was at the guitar god level of the other two.
    While he's gone out of the spotlight some he's still heavily involved in a lot of production and there's a reason for it. He's got a ton of range to be able to play minimalist melody, doo-wop, to hard metal. He's got an ability to technically thrive in a variety of genres.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,311 Founders Club
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.

    My vote is less "for" Rage and more against GnR. I have a lot of hate in my life.
    Rage is awful.
    AFD is top 10 album of the 1980's. If they had done 1 album instead of 2 in '91 that would have been a more impressive LP. They aren't the Beatles or Stones and not suited for double albums.

    Nirvana basically killed G n' R though in one fell swoop.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    YellowSnow said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.

    My vote is less "for" Rage and more against GnR. I have a lot of hate in my life.
    Rage is awful.
    AFD is top 10 album of the 1980's. If they had done 1 album instead of 2 in '91 that would have been a more impressive LP. They aren't the Beatles or Stones and not suited for double albums.

    Nirvana basically killed G n' R though in one fell swoop.
    I think GnR could have survived Nirvana but Axl.
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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited April 2018
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    I voted for Chinese democracy & against communism. That being said, Morello's guitar work is spectacular. One of the best. I don't like Zach de la Rocha. Shitty frontman. Doesn't hold a candle to Axl, who was a great frontman & knew how to rock a mic stand.


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  • BlastDoor
    BlastDoor Member Posts: 711
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    fuck you all
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    Holy shit you guys are fags. Rage is dope
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    GnR killing in the name of rock. RIPRATM
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    Not even close. GnR had a short lived career (basically one good album)... but they were a classic instantly.

    Give me short term brilliance over long term very good every time
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,261 Standard Supporter
    #12 Rage Against the Machine
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    Axl is a trainwreck of a marginal human being, but he can fuckkn sing.

    Oh go fuck yourself with this shit. That asshole sings like some Auburn (WA, no disrespect to the classy SEC white trash) white trash who's living off Thunderbird and meth. I could hear better singers @ 130 am karaoke at a fucking Chinese restaurant in Everett.
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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited April 2018
    #5 Guns n' Roses
    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    Axl is a trainwreck of a marginal human being, but he can fuckkn sing.

    Oh go fuck yourself with this shit. That asshole sings like some Auburn (WA, no disrespect to the classy SEC white trash) white trash who's living off Thunderbird and meth. I could hear better singers @ 130 am karaoke at a fucking Chinese restaurant in Everett.
    Axl is a quook POTD
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