Fun with tariffs...China edition...
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What the holy hell are you rambling about now? I’m guessing you are too stupid to realize you just changed topics...probably because you don’t have a clue on the one we are currently on.2001400ex said:
Trump said we had the best economy ever just a month ago. We were booming from the tax cuts. But now the status quo sucked? What exactly was wrong with our economy where tariffs were necessary?HoustonHusky said:God you are fucking moron. Like Huuge, as Trump would say.
Tariffs between equal or even similar trading partners suck.
Helpful hint...US trade to China is not equal or even similar to China trade to the US. Add to that all of the intellectual property theft, regulations on investments, etc. They declared a trade war on us years and years ago...we just decided to kick back a little. We haven't come even close to responding in kind, and I doubt we ever will.
Tariffs suck, but letting the status quo continue on and get worse sucks even more. Its not a difficult concept for anyone to at least understand (agree or disagree)...unless of course you are HondoFS.
You ought to go back to your stick figure drawings...they are more in line with your level of understanding of things...
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Have you seen the trade imbalance we have with China? We are already at the bottom.UWhuskytskeet said:
And yet it's a consensus among economists that tariffs are a race to the bottom. What an enigma.HoustonHusky said:God you are fucking moron. Like Huuge, as Trump would say.
Tariffs between equal or even similar trading partners suck.
Helpful hint...US trade to China is not equal or even similar to China trade to the US. Add to that all of the intellectual property theft, regulations on investments, etc. They declared a trade war on us years and years ago...we just decided to kick back a little. We haven't come even close to responding in kind, and I doubt we ever will.
Tariffs suck, but letting the status quo continue on and get worse sucks even more. Its not a difficult concept for anyone to at least understand (agree or disagree)...unless of course you are HondoFS.
You ought to go back to your stick figure drawings...they are more in line with your level of understanding of things... -
Who gives a fuck if we have a trade imbalance? Explain why we have to be trade neutral with countries.HoustonHusky said:
Have you seen the trade imbalance we have with China? We are already at the bottom.UWhuskytskeet said:
And yet it's a consensus among economists that tariffs are a race to the bottom. What an enigma.HoustonHusky said:God you are fucking moron. Like Huuge, as Trump would say.
Tariffs between equal or even similar trading partners suck.
Helpful hint...US trade to China is not equal or even similar to China trade to the US. Add to that all of the intellectual property theft, regulations on investments, etc. They declared a trade war on us years and years ago...we just decided to kick back a little. We haven't come even close to responding in kind, and I doubt we ever will.
Tariffs suck, but letting the status quo continue on and get worse sucks even more. Its not a difficult concept for anyone to at least understand (agree or disagree)...unless of course you are HondoFS.
You ought to go back to your stick figure drawings...they are more in line with your level of understanding of things... -
Read your quote. Then correlate it with what your hero said. I'm sorry you don't get it, but it's a simple concept. That you are pressing hard to defend. Cause Trump is your master and you must follow him.HoustonHusky said:
What the holy hell are you rambling about now? I’m guessing you are too stupid to realize you just changed topics...probably because you don’t have a clue on the one we are currently on.2001400ex said:
Trump said we had the best economy ever just a month ago. We were booming from the tax cuts. But now the status quo sucked? What exactly was wrong with our economy where tariffs were necessary?HoustonHusky said:God you are fucking moron. Like Huuge, as Trump would say.
Tariffs between equal or even similar trading partners suck.
Helpful hint...US trade to China is not equal or even similar to China trade to the US. Add to that all of the intellectual property theft, regulations on investments, etc. They declared a trade war on us years and years ago...we just decided to kick back a little. We haven't come even close to responding in kind, and I doubt we ever will.
Tariffs suck, but letting the status quo continue on and get worse sucks even more. Its not a difficult concept for anyone to at least understand (agree or disagree)...unless of course you are HondoFS.
You ought to go back to your stick figure drawings...they are more in line with your level of understanding of things... -
Hey look...a double reply from HondoFS because he's too fucking stupid to summarize anything.
Reply 1) If its just an imbalance no one should care...right now it is structurally economic theft.
Fair Trade:
'You are better at some things, we are better at some. Lets trade on the things each of us is better at right now to maximize those efficiencies.'
Our trade with China:
'China - we are better at these things, some structural and some because the our govt subsidizes it to make us better so we'll trade you those things. Its not fair that you are better at these things, so we won't let your companies own or in many cases even sell those things unless you give us the technology. On top of that because its not fair we'll state sponsor intellectual property theft and we as the Chinese gov't will subsidize building those industries from scratch so that you won't stay better at those by 2025'.
HondoFS...its that mentality as to why you are always the catcher.
Reply 2) The US GDP is something like $20 trillion dollars. Or better said for your limited cognitive abilities $20,000 billion dollars in 2017. We are talking about $130 billion in US exports to China in 2017. If from that you can't see why your comments are Really Fucking Stupid nobody can help you.
I'm the only one talking policy...you just keep screaming, ignoring, and asking FS questions. And I'm guessing it won't stop anytime soon...
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I don't have time for a tldr post from my phone at work. But I do chuckle at your points. You do point out that $130 billion is immaterial. If that's immaterial, then the $350 billion total trade deficit in immaterial, to the $20,000 billion GDP, as you put it.HoustonHusky said:Hey look...a double reply from HondoFS because he's too fucking stupid to summarize anything.
Reply 1) If its just an imbalance no one should care...right now it is structurally economic theft.
Fair Trade:
'You are better at some things, we are better at some. Lets trade on the things each of us is better at right now to maximize those efficiencies.'
Our trade with China:
'China - we are better at these things, some structural and some because the our govt subsidizes it to make us better so we'll trade you those things. Its not fair that you are better at these things, so we won't let your companies own or in many cases even sell those things unless you give us the technology. On top of that because its not fair we'll state sponsor intellectual property theft and we as the Chinese gov't will subsidize building those industries from scratch so that you won't stay better at those by 2025'.
HondoFS...its that mentality as to why you are always the catcher.
Reply 2) The US GDP is something like $20 trillion dollars. Or better said for your limited cognitive abilities $20,000 billion dollars in 2017. We are talking about $130 billion in US exports to China in 2017. If from that you can't see why your comments are Really Fucking Stupid nobody can help you.
I'm the only one talking policy...you just keep screaming, ignoring, and asking FS questions. And I'm guessing it won't stop anytime soon...
Our trade deficit with China is largely because they don't give a shit about their environment and their labor is cheap. Tariffs won't change that. I also chuckle tho when your contend that the trade deficit is because the Chinese government subsidizes their shitty products. If that were true, that's fine, let their government pay for it.
Fuck you truly do have your head up Trump's ass. You'll say anything to justify his fucktarded actions. -
Your phone doesn't cover up the fact that you are a fucking moron. Read up on China 2025 and get back to me. Or not and spew more ignorant shit.2001400ex said:
I don't have time for a tldr post from my phone at work. But I do chuckle at your points. You do point out that $130 billion is immaterial. If that's immaterial, then the $350 billion total trade deficit in immaterial, to the $20,000 billion GDP, as you put it.HoustonHusky said:Hey look...a double reply from HondoFS because he's too fucking stupid to summarize anything.
Reply 1) If its just an imbalance no one should care...right now it is structurally economic theft.
Fair Trade:
'You are better at some things, we are better at some. Lets trade on the things each of us is better at right now to maximize those efficiencies.'
Our trade with China:
'China - we are better at these things, some structural and some because the our govt subsidizes it to make us better so we'll trade you those things. Its not fair that you are better at these things, so we won't let your companies own or in many cases even sell those things unless you give us the technology. On top of that because its not fair we'll state sponsor intellectual property theft and we as the Chinese gov't will subsidize building those industries from scratch so that you won't stay better at those by 2025'.
HondoFS...its that mentality as to why you are always the catcher.
Reply 2) The US GDP is something like $20 trillion dollars. Or better said for your limited cognitive abilities $20,000 billion dollars in 2017. We are talking about $130 billion in US exports to China in 2017. If from that you can't see why your comments are Really Fucking Stupid nobody can help you.
I'm the only one talking policy...you just keep screaming, ignoring, and asking FS questions. And I'm guessing it won't stop anytime soon...
Our trade deficit with China is largely because they don't give a shit about their environment and their labor is cheap. Tariffs won't change that. I also chuckle tho when your contend that the trade deficit is because the Chinese government subsidizes their shitty products. If that were true, that's fine, let their government pay for it.
Fuck you truly do have your head up Trump's ass. You'll say anything to justify his fucktarded actions.
A few of the millions of articles out there...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/business/made-in-china-technology-trade.html
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/07/technology/china-tech-lead-us-trump/index.html
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-10/21/content_33529649.htm
etc...etc...
HondoFS...
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They have a plan to invest in technology. Cool. And America doesn't? You sound scared.HoustonHusky said:
Your phone doesn't cover up the fact that you are a fucking moron. Read up on China 2025 and get back to me. Or not and spew more ignorant shit.2001400ex said:
I don't have time for a tldr post from my phone at work. But I do chuckle at your points. You do point out that $130 billion is immaterial. If that's immaterial, then the $350 billion total trade deficit in immaterial, to the $20,000 billion GDP, as you put it.HoustonHusky said:Hey look...a double reply from HondoFS because he's too fucking stupid to summarize anything.
Reply 1) If its just an imbalance no one should care...right now it is structurally economic theft.
Fair Trade:
'You are better at some things, we are better at some. Lets trade on the things each of us is better at right now to maximize those efficiencies.'
Our trade with China:
'China - we are better at these things, some structural and some because the our govt subsidizes it to make us better so we'll trade you those things. Its not fair that you are better at these things, so we won't let your companies own or in many cases even sell those things unless you give us the technology. On top of that because its not fair we'll state sponsor intellectual property theft and we as the Chinese gov't will subsidize building those industries from scratch so that you won't stay better at those by 2025'.
HondoFS...its that mentality as to why you are always the catcher.
Reply 2) The US GDP is something like $20 trillion dollars. Or better said for your limited cognitive abilities $20,000 billion dollars in 2017. We are talking about $130 billion in US exports to China in 2017. If from that you can't see why your comments are Really Fucking Stupid nobody can help you.
I'm the only one talking policy...you just keep screaming, ignoring, and asking FS questions. And I'm guessing it won't stop anytime soon...
Our trade deficit with China is largely because they don't give a shit about their environment and their labor is cheap. Tariffs won't change that. I also chuckle tho when your contend that the trade deficit is because the Chinese government subsidizes their shitty products. If that were true, that's fine, let their government pay for it.
Fuck you truly do have your head up Trump's ass. You'll say anything to justify his fucktarded actions.
A few of the millions of articles out there...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/business/made-in-china-technology-trade.html
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/07/technology/china-tech-lead-us-trump/index.html
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-10/21/content_33529649.htm
etc...etc...
HondoFS... -
Invest? Reading is hard.2001400ex said:
They have a plan to invest in technology. Cool. And America doesn't? You sound scared.HoustonHusky said:
Your phone doesn't cover up the fact that you are a fucking moron. Read up on China 2025 and get back to me. Or not and spew more ignorant shit.2001400ex said:
I don't have time for a tldr post from my phone at work. But I do chuckle at your points. You do point out that $130 billion is immaterial. If that's immaterial, then the $350 billion total trade deficit in immaterial, to the $20,000 billion GDP, as you put it.HoustonHusky said:Hey look...a double reply from HondoFS because he's too fucking stupid to summarize anything.
Reply 1) If its just an imbalance no one should care...right now it is structurally economic theft.
Fair Trade:
'You are better at some things, we are better at some. Lets trade on the things each of us is better at right now to maximize those efficiencies.'
Our trade with China:
'China - we are better at these things, some structural and some because the our govt subsidizes it to make us better so we'll trade you those things. Its not fair that you are better at these things, so we won't let your companies own or in many cases even sell those things unless you give us the technology. On top of that because its not fair we'll state sponsor intellectual property theft and we as the Chinese gov't will subsidize building those industries from scratch so that you won't stay better at those by 2025'.
HondoFS...its that mentality as to why you are always the catcher.
Reply 2) The US GDP is something like $20 trillion dollars. Or better said for your limited cognitive abilities $20,000 billion dollars in 2017. We are talking about $130 billion in US exports to China in 2017. If from that you can't see why your comments are Really Fucking Stupid nobody can help you.
I'm the only one talking policy...you just keep screaming, ignoring, and asking FS questions. And I'm guessing it won't stop anytime soon...
Our trade deficit with China is largely because they don't give a shit about their environment and their labor is cheap. Tariffs won't change that. I also chuckle tho when your contend that the trade deficit is because the Chinese government subsidizes their shitty products. If that were true, that's fine, let their government pay for it.
Fuck you truly do have your head up Trump's ass. You'll say anything to justify his fucktarded actions.
A few of the millions of articles out there...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/business/made-in-china-technology-trade.html
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/07/technology/china-tech-lead-us-trump/index.html
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-10/21/content_33529649.htm
etc...etc...
HondoFS...
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Good interview (amazing to say for CNBC...) some more background on the thoughts behind the US' current actions:
https://youtu.be/nIquJ7HT9jY
