if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...
is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...
Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions
Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
Fuck someone more stupid than sledog who can't read. While I don't agree with this initiative. This is right in the article.
A person that wanted to keep their assault weapon would need to register it with the Oregon State Police. OSP would look at a person's criminal record — and other information — to determine whether they are "disqualified from possessing the weapon." "People who legally own assault rifles or large-capacity magazines will not be required to surrender their firearms but will be required to register their firearms with the state," said Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, which is supporting the petition.
That being said, this is exactly what flea and I have both discussed. If the NRA sticks to it's "zero discussion on regulations" and more shootings happen, the public will start doing this and some of the bills might actually pass.
People who own these firearms are already registered with the state. This opens it up to the State to seize the weapon from anyone they see fit. Oregon's leaders hate guns. There is nothing in this initiative that would stop the State from seizing the gun.
do they have to register if they get it through a private sale ... Washington passed I-594 that required all sales of firearms to require a background check/registration... does oregon have that currently? is I-594 working ... in 14 months it kept rifles/guns out of 50 felons hands ... allthough they must be trying to be clean felons since they actually followed the law ...
It's true. Gun control laws keep the classy felons from getting firearms.
“We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners.
“But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.”
If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.
And speaking of making shit up.
AR-15 rifles and their cousins are special because although they are semi-automatic weapons and therefore only fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, they are known for being accurate and easy to modify with accessories such as extended magazines, to shoot hundreds of bullets without reloading, and bump stocks, to allow faster shooting.
This Oregon initiative is exactly what left wing fascists want on a national scale. A total revoking of your 2nd amendment rights. Some fuckeyed piece of shit in Florida shoots up a school and they want to take away the guns of law abiding citizens of Oregon. It's an excuse to seize more power. The left wing has already shown its true character in the weaponizing of the FBI, DOJ, IRS and other government institutions. Now they want your guns.
This Oregon initiative is exactly what left wing fascists want on a national scale. A total revoking of your 2nd amendment rights. Some fuckeyed piece of shit in Florida shoots up a school and they want to take away the guns of law abiding citizens of Oregon. It's an excuse to seize more power.
When they came for my Prime 2 Day shipping, you said nothing.
“We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners.
“But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.”
If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.
AR-15 rifles and their cousins are special because although they are semi-automatic weapons and therefore only fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, they are known for being accurate and easy to modify with accessories such as extended magazines, to shoot hundreds of bullets without reloading, and bump stocks, to allow faster shooting.
The initiative calls everything an assault weapon. It's written so badly I'm not sure why I'm wasting my energy on it. However it's Oregon so any poorly written legislation that lets FMB's and Hondo's of the world feel good, has a good chance to pass.
It still has a ways to go. It still has to get the signatures to get put on the ballot, then Oregonians have to actually vote it in. I don't think they are going to get the votes needed.
They absolutely say could be surrendered. There is no way this gets voted in. People know that legislation like this opens pandora's box on what other types of guns could be banned. It's not outside the realm of possibilities that 20 years from now assault weapon bans from this legislation will be broaden to semi auto hand guns, then to hand guns, then to rifles and shot guns. Pretty soon, Oregonians will have to defend themselves like Swaye's people did, with the classic bow and arrow. Farmers and the rest of rural Oregon will have 98% voter turnout over this bill. Hipsters/losers in Portland and Eugene won't have a high enough turnout to overcome that.
This could be further from the truth. Portland proper controls everything and Portland is about 70% liberal and hate guns of all sorts. It also has 5 X the population of everywhere else combined. If they get the 88,000 sigs, this will pass.
However this will end up being the Dem's worst nightmare if it gets on the ballot. In Oregon, Conservatives sit on the sidelines as they have known that it doesn't matter how they vote as whatever Portland libtard wants will be voted in for the last 30 plus years.
However THIS will energize them like no other time in History and the Dems in other areas of the State outside of Portland will have this to reckon with and it may just cook their Gooses.
WTF are you babbling about? Portland, Salem, Eugene, Bend, and Ashland are extremely liberal. That's the state.
You think Medford, K Falls, and Roseburg are going to impact or carry the state? All shit holes as Donnie would say. I know, I've lived in two other them for long periods of time.
The group think in those tiny places are 100% the opposite of what actually happens at the polls.
This Oregon initiative is exactly what left wing fascists want on a national scale. A total revoking of your 2nd amendment rights. Some fuckeyed piece of shit in Florida shoots up a school and they want to take away the guns of law abiding citizens of Oregon. It's an excuse to seize more power. The left wing has already shown its true character in the weaponizing of the FBI, DOJ, IRS and other government institutions. Now they want your guns.
OBK didn't even read the bill and he's triggered again.
“We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners.
“But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.”
If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.
And speaking of making shit up.
AR-15 rifles and their cousins are special because although they are semi-automatic weapons and therefore only fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, they are known for being accurate and easy to modify with accessories such as extended magazines, to shoot hundreds of bullets without reloading, and bump stocks, to allow faster shooting.
The initiative calls everything an assault weapon. It's written so badly I'm not sure why I'm wasting my energy on it. However it's Oregon so any poorly written legislation that lets FMB's and Hondo's of the world feel good, has a good chance to pass.
You don't read well. And you don't understand legislative process. People said the exact same about the I 594 in Washington and did they take any guns with that legislation?
It's sheep like you, OBK, and sledog that get triggered anytime anyone says anything about gun control, that will actually cause guns to be confiscated.
It still has a ways to go. It still has to get the signatures to get put on the ballot, then Oregonians have to actually vote it in. I don't think they are going to get the votes needed.
They absolutely say could be surrendered. There is no way this gets voted in. People know that legislation like this opens pandora's box on what other types of guns could be banned. It's not outside the realm of possibilities that 20 years from now assault weapon bans from this legislation will be broaden to semi auto hand guns, then to hand guns, then to rifles and shot guns. Pretty soon, Oregonians will have to defend themselves like Swaye's people did, with the classic bow and arrow. Farmers and the rest of rural Oregon will have 98% voter turnout over this bill. Hipsters/losers in Portland and Eugene won't have a high enough turnout to overcome that.
This could be further from the truth. Portland proper controls everything and Portland is about 70% liberal and hate guns of all sorts. It also has 5 X the population of everywhere else combined. If they get the 88,000 sigs, this will pass.
However this will end up being the Dem's worst nightmare if it gets on the ballot. In Oregon, Conservatives sit on the sidelines as they have known that it doesn't matter how they vote as whatever Portland libtard wants will be voted in for the last 30 plus years.
However THIS will energize them like no other time in History and the Dems in other areas of the State outside of Portland will have this to reckon with and it may just cook their Gooses.
WTF are you babbling about? Portland, Salem, Eugene, Bend, and Ashland are extremely liberal. That's the state.
You think Medford, K Falls, and Roseburg are going to impact or carry the state? All shit holes as Donnie would say. I know, I've lived in two other them for long periods of time.
The group think in those tiny places are 100% the opposite of what actually happens at the polls.
Of the cities you list, only Eugene and maybe Ashland are liberal. The liberals in Bend are a handful of hippies and Cali transplants that many of which head back south come election time anyway. The born and raised in Bend are more conservative than liberal.
“We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners.
“But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.”
If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.
And speaking of making shit up.
AR-15 rifles and their cousins are special because although they are semi-automatic weapons and therefore only fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, they are known for being accurate and easy to modify with accessories such as extended magazines, to shoot hundreds of bullets without reloading, and bump stocks, to allow faster shooting.
The initiative calls everything an assault weapon. It's written so badly I'm not sure why I'm wasting my energy on it. However it's Oregon so any poorly written legislation that lets FMB's and Hondo's of the world feel good, has a good chance to pass.
You don't read well. And you don't understand legislative process. People said the exact same about the I 594 in Washington and did they take any guns with that legislation?
It's sheep like you, OBK, and sledog that get triggered anytime anyone says anything about gun control, that will actually cause guns to be confiscated.
I see you didn't bother to read the actual initiative itself.... SHOCKER!!!!
While I believe it could get to ballot in November and get voted through. It's so poorly written that even a sodbuster can see it would be struck down in court before enacted.
“We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners.
“But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.”
If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.
And speaking of making shit up.
AR-15 rifles and their cousins are special because although they are semi-automatic weapons and therefore only fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, they are known for being accurate and easy to modify with accessories such as extended magazines, to shoot hundreds of bullets without reloading, and bump stocks, to allow faster shooting.
The initiative calls everything an assault weapon. It's written so badly I'm not sure why I'm wasting my energy on it. However it's Oregon so any poorly written legislation that lets FMB's and Hondo's of the world feel good, has a good chance to pass.
You don't read well. And you don't understand legislative process. People said the exact same about the I 594 in Washington and did they take any guns with that legislation?
It's sheep like you, OBK, and sledog that get triggered anytime anyone says anything about gun control, that will actually cause guns to be confiscated.
I like how hondo always tries to blame the reader for the incoherent shit he writes and then acts like what he said was some big mystery that is above our limited intellects
Its one thing when say a Berkeley grad tries that. Its another when the board idiot does it
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“But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.”
If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.
And speaking of making shit up.
It also applies to handguns that can fire 10 or more rounds.
It also applies to any weapon that has a profusion where it can be held by the non firing hand.
You think Medford, K Falls, and Roseburg are going to impact or carry the state? All shit holes as Donnie would say. I know, I've lived in two other them for long periods of time.
The group think in those tiny places are 100% the opposite of what actually happens at the polls.
It's sheep like you, OBK, and sledog that get triggered anytime anyone says anything about gun control, that will actually cause guns to be confiscated.
Of the cities you list, only Eugene and maybe Ashland are liberal. The liberals in Bend are a handful of hippies and Cali transplants that many of which head back south come election time anyway. The born and raised in Bend are more conservative than liberal.
While I believe it could get to ballot in November and get voted through. It's so poorly written that even a sodbuster can see it would be struck down in court before enacted.
Its one thing when say a Berkeley grad tries that. Its another when the board idiot does it