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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    I am beginning to see the beauty of a gun ban in my plan to watch the world burn
  • YouKnowIt
    YouKnowIt Member Posts: 545
    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Not all problems have solutions
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited March 2018
    It still has a ways to go. It still has to get the signatures to get put on the ballot, then Oregonians have to actually vote it in. I don't think they are going to get the votes needed.

    They absolutely say could be surrendered. There is no way this gets voted in. People know that legislation like this opens pandora's box on what other types of guns could be banned. It's not outside the realm of possibilities that 20 years from now assault weapon bans from this legislation will be broaden to semi auto hand guns, then to hand guns, then to rifles and shot guns. Pretty soon, Oregonians will have to defend themselves like Swaye's people did, with the classic bow and arrow.

    Farmers and the rest of rural Oregon will have 98% voter turnout over this bill. Hipsters/losers in Portland and Eugene won't have a high enough turnout to overcome that.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    It still has a ways to go. It still has to get the signatures to get put on the ballot, then Oregonians have to actually vote it in. I don't think they are going to get the votes needed.

    They absolutely say could be surrendered. There is no way this gets voted in. People know that legislation like this opens pandora's box on what other types of guns could be banned. It's not outside the realm of possibilities that 20 years from now assault weapon bans from this legislation will be broaden to semi auto hand guns, then to hand guns, then to rifles and shot guns. Pretty soon, Oregonians will have to defend themselves like Swaye's people did, with the classic bow and arrow.

    Farmers and the rest of rural Oregon will have 98% voter turnout over this bill. Hipsters/losers in Portland and Eugene won't have a high enough turnout to overcome that.

    I wouldn't be so sure of that. There are a lot of fucking retards in Oregon who would be more than happy to see the state seize all guns, not just assault weapons.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    But who exactly wants to confiscate guns - hondoFS

    They live in fucking Oregon. And it'll never pass. But ok!
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    It still has a ways to go. It still has to get the signatures to get put on the ballot, then Oregonians have to actually vote it in. I don't think they are going to get the votes needed.

    They absolutely say could be surrendered. There is no way this gets voted in. People know that legislation like this opens pandora's box on what other types of guns could be banned. It's not outside the realm of possibilities that 20 years from now assault weapon bans from this legislation will be broaden to semi auto hand guns, then to hand guns, then to rifles and shot guns. Pretty soon, Oregonians will have to defend themselves like Swaye's people did, with the classic bow and arrow.

    Farmers and the rest of rural Oregon will have 98% voter turnout over this bill. Hipsters/losers in Portland and Eugene won't have a high enough turnout to overcome that.

    I wouldn't be so sure of that. There are a lot of fucking retards in Oregon who would be more than happy to see the state seize all guns, not just assault weapons.
    Those people don't vote
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    It still has a ways to go. It still has to get the signatures to get put on the ballot, then Oregonians have to actually vote it in. I don't think they are going to get the votes needed.

    They absolutely say could be surrendered. There is no way this gets voted in. People know that legislation like this opens pandora's box on what other types of guns could be banned. It's not outside the realm of possibilities that 20 years from now assault weapon bans from this legislation will be broaden to semi auto hand guns, then to hand guns, then to rifles and shot guns. Pretty soon, Oregonians will have to defend themselves like Swaye's people did, with the classic bow and arrow.

    Farmers and the rest of rural Oregon will have 98% voter turnout over this bill. Hipsters/losers in Portland and Eugene won't have a high enough turnout to overcome that
    .

    This could be further from the truth. Portland proper controls everything and Portland is about 70% liberal and hate guns of all sorts. It also has 5 X the population of everywhere else combined. If they get the 88,000 sigs, this will pass.

    However this will end up being the Dem's worst nightmare if it gets on the ballot. In Oregon, Conservatives sit on the sidelines as they have known that it doesn't matter how they vote as whatever Portland libtard wants will be voted in for the last 30 plus years.

    However THIS will energize them like no other time in History and the Dems in other areas of the State outside of Portland will have this to reckon with and it may just cook their Gooses.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    But who exactly wants to confiscate guns - hondoFS

    They live in fucking Oregon. And it'll never pass. But ok!
    Go back to taking selfies with Bunny ears on Snapchat.



  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
    Fuck someone more stupid than sledog who can't read. While I don't agree with this initiative. This is right in the article.

    A person that wanted to keep their assault weapon would need to register it with the Oregon State Police. OSP would look at a person's criminal record — and other information — to determine whether they are "disqualified from possessing the weapon."
    "People who legally own assault rifles or large-capacity magazines will not be required to surrender their firearms but will be required to register their firearms with the state," said Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, which is supporting the petition.


    That being said, this is exactly what flea and I have both discussed. If the NRA sticks to it's "zero discussion on regulations" and more shootings happen, the public will start doing this and some of the bills might actually pass.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,096 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
    Fuck someone more stupid than sledog who can't read. While I don't agree with this initiative. This is right in the article.

    A person that wanted to keep their assault weapon would need to register it with the Oregon State Police. OSP would look at a person's criminal record — and other information — to determine whether they are "disqualified from possessing the weapon."
    "People who legally own assault rifles or large-capacity magazines will not be required to surrender their firearms but will be required to register their firearms with the state," said Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, which is supporting the petition.


    That being said, this is exactly what flea and I have both discussed. If the NRA sticks to it's "zero discussion on regulations" and more shootings happen, the public will start doing this and some of the bills might actually pass.
    Not all problems have solutions



    @BearsWiin has done it again!
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
    Fuck someone more stupid than sledog who can't read. While I don't agree with this initiative. This is right in the article.

    A person that wanted to keep their assault weapon would need to register it with the Oregon State Police. OSP would look at a person's criminal record — and other information — to determine whether they are "disqualified from possessing the weapon."
    "People who legally own assault rifles or large-capacity magazines will not be required to surrender their firearms but will be required to register their firearms with the state," said Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, which is supporting the petition.


    That being said, this is exactly what flea and I have both discussed. If the NRA sticks to it's "zero discussion on regulations" and more shootings happen, the public will start doing this and some of the bills might actually pass.
    People who own these firearms are already registered with the state. This opens it up to the State to seize the weapon from anyone they see fit. Oregon's leaders hate guns. There is nothing in this initiative that would stop the State from seizing the gun.
  • YouKnowIt
    YouKnowIt Member Posts: 545
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
    Fuck someone more stupid than sledog who can't read. While I don't agree with this initiative. This is right in the article.

    A person that wanted to keep their assault weapon would need to register it with the Oregon State Police. OSP would look at a person's criminal record — and other information — to determine whether they are "disqualified from possessing the weapon."
    "People who legally own assault rifles or large-capacity magazines will not be required to surrender their firearms but will be required to register their firearms with the state," said Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, which is supporting the petition.


    That being said, this is exactly what flea and I have both discussed. If the NRA sticks to it's "zero discussion on regulations" and more shootings happen, the public will start doing this and some of the bills might actually pass.
    People who own these firearms are already registered with the state. This opens it up to the State to seize the weapon from anyone they see fit. Oregon's leaders hate guns. There is nothing in this initiative that would stop the State from seizing the gun.
    do they have to register if they get it through a private sale ... Washington passed I-594 that required all sales of firearms to require a background check/registration... does oregon have that currently? is I-594 working ... in 14 months it kept rifles/guns out of 50 felons hands ... allthough they must be trying to be clean felons since they actually followed the law ...
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    YouKnowIt said:

    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    YouKnowIt said:

    if you register it you will not lose it ... so it is creating a registry of gun owners vs confiscation that is really going on here ...

    is registration the way to go, who knows, but if i was POHLEESE Id like to know if the house i am going to has certain weapons in the residence...

    Now do i want the pohleese to know what i have ... no, but I still can see it both ways ... not both ways like you guys like, but opinions

    Fuck someone moar stupid than Hondo. If you own an A/R, its already registered unless you bought it illegally. And since you can't fucking read, it is about SEIZURE by all owners not in the police or military.
    Fuck someone more stupid than sledog who can't read. While I don't agree with this initiative. This is right in the article.

    A person that wanted to keep their assault weapon would need to register it with the Oregon State Police. OSP would look at a person's criminal record — and other information — to determine whether they are "disqualified from possessing the weapon."
    "People who legally own assault rifles or large-capacity magazines will not be required to surrender their firearms but will be required to register their firearms with the state," said Penny Okamoto, executive director of Ceasefire Oregon, which is supporting the petition.


    That being said, this is exactly what flea and I have both discussed. If the NRA sticks to it's "zero discussion on regulations" and more shootings happen, the public will start doing this and some of the bills might actually pass.
    People who own these firearms are already registered with the state. This opens it up to the State to seize the weapon from anyone they see fit. Oregon's leaders hate guns. There is nothing in this initiative that would stop the State from seizing the gun.
    do they have to register if they get it through a private sale ... Washington passed I-594 that required all sales of firearms to require a background check/registration... does oregon have that currently? is I-594 working ... in 14 months it kept rifles/guns out of 50 felons hands ... allthough they must be trying to be clean felons since they actually followed the law ...
    It's true. Gun control laws keep the classy felons from getting firearms.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    The original stories said that legal owners would have 120 days to dispose, sell, turn in, or deactivate their firearms.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369

    The original stories said that legal owners would have 120 days to dispose, sell, turn in, or deactivate their firearms.

    Will a Tweet, starting the same, suffice?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Baseman said:

    The original stories said that legal owners would have 120 days to dispose, sell, turn in, or deactivate their firearms.

    Will a Tweet, starting the same, suffice?
    Huh?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    “We recognize that there are perfectly legitimate uses of guns for self-protection and hunting that make a lot of sense,” said Rabbi Michael Z. Cahana of Congregation Beth Israel and one of petitioners.

    “But assault weapons are not used for either of those purposes. Many of these weapons exist only for killing and do not belong in civilian hands.


    If you don't like guns, fine, but don't make shit up. Something like 10 million AR-15s alone exist in private hands.

    And speaking of making shit up.
    AR-15 rifles and their cousins are special because although they are semi-automatic weapons and therefore only fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, they are known for being accurate and easy to modify with accessories such as extended magazines, to shoot hundreds of bullets without reloading, and bump stocks, to allow faster shooting.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter
    NRA tards are losing their minds again I see. Go ahead and flag. I say what I want around here with little regard to hearts from basement dwellers. ;)
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    The original stories said that legal owners would have 120 days to dispose, sell, turn in, or deactivate their firearms.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/374485605/Text-of-Oregon-Initiative-42#from_embed

    It also applies to handguns that can fire 10 or more rounds.

    It also applies to any weapon that has a profusion where it can be held by the non firing hand.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    NRA tards are losing their minds again I see. Go ahead and flag. I say what I want around here with little regard to hearts from basement dwellers. ;)

    Unlike in real life where you get the taste slapped out of your mouth when you speak up?
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited March 2018
    This Oregon initiative is exactly what left wing fascists want on a national scale. A total revoking of your 2nd amendment rights. Some fuckeyed piece of shit in Florida shoots up a school and they want to take away the guns of law abiding citizens of Oregon. It's an excuse to seize more power. The left wing has already shown its true character in the weaponizing of the FBI, DOJ, IRS and other government institutions. Now they want your guns.