Here's the thing
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/
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Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/
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Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/ -
Why did you link to Australia then?2001400ex said:
Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/ -
Another important point is that the police responded to this kids house 36 times for domestic violence and elder abuse. The FBI was warned about him and yet still no one investigated. No criminal record allowed him to buy the rifle as he could pass the background check. Multiple levels of failure on this kid.2001400ex said:
Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/ -
Finally...
Someone with a voice of reason starts a thread on this issue.
So glad to hear you made it back safe after your travels. -
I'm notsalemcoog said:
So glad to hear you made it back safe after your travels. -
Seems to me there is common ground on this issue at least. Our? checks and balances suck when it comes to background checks. No way this kid should have a gun legallySledog said:
Another important point is that the police responded to this kids house 36 times for domestic violence and elder abuse. The FBI was warned about him and yet still no one investigated. No criminal record allowed him to buy the rifle as he could pass the background check. Multiple levels of failure on this kid.2001400ex said:
Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/ -
https://vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback
Australia was a mandatory buy back aka confiscation of guns. They got results. Maybe that would work here but be honest about what you are after - taking people's guns.
Banning bump stocks isn't going to do anything. Kids take their parents legal guns and shoot up schools so take the guns.
Switzerland argues the other side of the issue. They encourage citizens to have guns and don't have anywhere near our problems.
Maybe the USA is the USA and our issues are more complex that its just one thing. There is a tipping point close by that might allow us to do something (shout out to Taggs). Let's do something intelligent for a change.
From the article
Wednesday's mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida seems bound to evoke some sort of national conversation about gun control. Which means there will likely be some sort of debate about whether it would even be possible for the US to limit its millions of privately held guns — by far a higher per capita gun ownership rate than any other country.
It is worth considering, as one data point in the pool of evidence about what sorts of gun control policies do and do not work, the experience of Australia. Between October 1996 and September 1997, Australia responded to its own gun violence problem with a solution that was both straightforward and severe: It collected roughly 650,000 privately held guns. It was one of the largest mandatory gun buyback programs in recent history.
And it worked. That does not mean that something even remotely similar would work in the US — they are, needless to say, different countries — but it is worth at least looking at their experience. -
Did your read my post? I'm saying that's what the public will start to demand if the NRA keeps up it's current positions.RaceBannon said:
Why did you link to Australia then?2001400ex said:
Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/
And to be clear, they didn't ban all guns, or confiscate all guns. And gun ownership there now is higher than it was in 1996.
And also to be clear, I'm not saying, and have never said, to take away any guns in America. -
You don't have the GUTS to say what you think. Who knows maybe the public is ready for it. Are you going to wait to be sure before you actually advocate for what you want?2001400ex said:
Did your read my post? I'm saying that's what the public will start to demand if the NRA keeps up it's current positions.RaceBannon said:
Why did you link to Australia then?2001400ex said:
Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/
And to be clear, they didn't ban all guns, or confiscate all guns. And gun ownership there now is higher than it was in 1996.
And also to be clear, I'm not saying, and have never said, to take away any guns in America.
Lots of folks are taking this VOX article and running with it. Be a leader not a wimp -
Who the fuck reads vox?RaceBannon said:
You don't have the GUTS to say what you think. Who knows maybe the public is ready for it. Are you going to wait to be sure before you actually advocate for what you want?2001400ex said:
Did your read my post? I'm saying that's what the public will start to demand if the NRA keeps up it's current positions.RaceBannon said:
Why did you link to Australia then?2001400ex said:
Who the fuck is talking about banning guns? Stay on topic dumbfuck.Sledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/
And to be clear, they didn't ban all guns, or confiscate all guns. And gun ownership there now is higher than it was in 1996.
And also to be clear, I'm not saying, and have never said, to take away any guns in America.
Lots of folks are taking this VOX article and running with it. Be a leader not a wimp
Reality is. The NRA needs to use technology or something to implement better controls to reduce the number of shootings. -
It's obvious the public wants nothing to do with it and have spoken. Hillary gun control, Trump pro 2nd amendment.
Check the polls after the last few shootings.
I fight crime. I shoot back. -
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/japan-almost-completely-eliminated-gun-200700252.htmlSledog said:
Bullshit. Switzerland has lots of guns and doesn't have this problem. Japan has never allowed guns and their suicide rate is off the charts. HTH2001400ex said:I was traveling all day so y'all didn't get the pleasure of my posts. But I read through most of it and you guys read just like my FB page. "There have been 18 school shootings this year" then "that's fake news" followed by "we need more guns in school and no gun free zones".
The reality is, if the NRA sticks to it's "zero gun control" philosophy, we will become Australia. There will be enough outcry from the public to make it happen. The NRA needs to step up with some reasonable measures to reduce the amount of deaths. Here's what happened in Australia and you'll read more about this as more shootings happen.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/15/australia-hasnt-had-fatal-mass-shooting-since-1996-heres-what-did/340345002/ -
http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspxSledog said:It's obvious the public wants nothing to do with it and have spoken. Hillary gun control, Trump pro 2nd amendment.
Check the polls after the last few shootings.
I fight crime. I shoot back.
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions -
Stand by Sparky there are still Americans here. How's those Hillary wins polls working for ya?2001400ex said:
http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspxSledog said:It's obvious the public wants nothing to do with it and have spoken. Hillary gun control, Trump pro 2nd amendment.
Check the polls after the last few shootings.
I fight crime. I shoot back.
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions
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The polls were fairly accurate about the national preference for presidential candidate.Sledog said:
Stand by Sparky there are still Americans here. How's those Hillary wins polls working for ya?2001400ex said:
http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspxSledog said:It's obvious the public wants nothing to do with it and have spoken. Hillary gun control, Trump pro 2nd amendment.
Check the polls after the last few shootings.
I fight crime. I shoot back.
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions
The electoral college models everyone used were shit.
Some of you need to learn the difference. -
I truly wouldn't give a fuck if all guns were take away.
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Sledog just needs an idiotic justification to keep his head buried in the sand.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The polls were fairly accurate about the national preference for presidential candidate.Sledog said:
Stand by Sparky there are still Americans here. How's those Hillary wins polls working for ya?2001400ex said:
http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspxSledog said:It's obvious the public wants nothing to do with it and have spoken. Hillary gun control, Trump pro 2nd amendment.
Check the polls after the last few shootings.
I fight crime. I shoot back.
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557433452/poll-majorities-of-both-parties-favor-increased-gun-restrictions
The electoral college models everyone used were shit.
Some of you need to learn the difference. -
Civil war. Who's going to go pick them up? I'm sure it's not gonna be the leftist pussies pushing this shit and the military ain't gonna do it. Police won't either.Pitchfork51 said:I truly wouldn't give a fuck if all guns were take away.
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Excellent poont.Sledog said:
Civil war. Who's going to go pick them up? I'm sure it's not gonna be the leftist pussies pushing this shit and the military ain't gonna do it. Police won't either.Pitchfork51 said:I truly wouldn't give a fuck if all guns were take away.
Gotta amend though
The VAST majority of gun owners have a 'from my cold dead hands' mentality. Ain't nobody signed up out of ROTC to do a gun sweep in the wilds of N. Idaho or E. Oregon. Multiply Ruby Ridge/Weaver times about 1,000,000.
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Is @MolonLabeDwag uh taken?
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For you lefty loons
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People itching to use their guns are the people who shouldnt have them.Sledog said:I
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Itching isn't correct. Willing yes but reluctantly. I will not be a victim.WilburHooksHands said:
People itching to use their guns are the people who shouldnt have them.Sledog said:I
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No one is trying to kill you, hth.Sledog said:
Itching isn't correct. Willing yes but reluctantly. I will not be a victim.WilburHooksHands said:
People itching to use their guns are the people who shouldnt have them.Sledog said:I
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DisagreeWilburHooksHands said:
No one is trying to kill you, hth.Sledog said:
Itching isn't correct. Willing yes but reluctantly. I will not be a victim.WilburHooksHands said:
People itching to use their guns are the people who shouldnt have them.Sledog said:I
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They have in the past. HTHWilburHooksHands said:
No one is trying to kill you, hth.Sledog said:
Itching isn't correct. Willing yes but reluctantly. I will not be a victim.WilburHooksHands said:
People itching to use their guns are the people who shouldnt have them.Sledog said:I
I fight crime. I shoot back. -
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I got held up in a GOOD neighborhood in 2009 by two white trash methhead teenage faggots. They got $6. I don't know wth the exact solution is but letting the NRA and manufacturers dictate policy and listening to the Sledoog's and gun nut alarmists is f.s. I also don't like any sort of mandatory gun buy back.
But for sure: there needs to be way more restrictions, especially for the mentally ill, and way more training for newbs, and way more resources thrown toward the crazy...many shouldn't even be in the public
