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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    dflea said:

    Gwad said:

    Good news for America has hondo looking for bad news

    I don't think these things equate to the totality of personal well being. I guess we have different ideas about good news. I still respect your passion for writing about what you believe in. <3 </p>
    I don't see anything about the totality of well bring but I do see good economic news that gets people more money in their pocket which is portion of well being.

    That's considered good news by most folks.

    Money can't buy happiness but then again, neither can poverty
    Nobody was ever bummed out by more money. If they are, they should use the extra money to buy a can of gas to set themselves on fire with.

    Helps Trump, IMO.
    I'm hearing HondoFS is bummed out more American's have extra money. Just what I'm hearing.

    Maybe one of those with extra money can buy him a can of gas and a funnel. Then he can swallow a road flare like it's Hillary's cock.
    Your obsession is noted.

    That being said, the issues with the bill is there's a lot of people that'll pay more in taxes in lower income brackets. And the majority of the dollar amount is going to corporations and the wealthy.

    What happens when conservatives turn a $600 billion deficit into over a trillion again?
    They'll be 9 trillion behind Obunghole!
    There are not lots of people who will pay more in lower brackets

    Flat out lie
    What's "a lot"? A few percent, sounds small right?

    According to the TPC analysis of the final GOP tax bill:

    4.8% of tax units will see a tax increase in 2018.
    Based on the JCT's 2019 unit figure, that means just under 8.5 million units would see their taxes increase next year.
    The number is higher for middle-income earners:

    7.3% of people in the middle quintile - those making between $48,600 and $86,100 - will see their tax bill increase.
    While the JCT's income groups don't align perfectly with the TPC's, a rough estimate shows that would mean 2.75 million to 3 million middle-income units would see an increase.


    http://www.businessinsider.com/will-my-taxes-go-up-or-down-under-trump-tax-reform-bill-2017-12
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited January 2018

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025
    Gwad said:

    It seems a 'money in my pocket now' is a drug seeking behavior that holds no long term sustainability to be a prosperous society. How do these changes benefit the generations to follow us?

    If you gots money, you spend it on booze and chicks.

    If you're spending money on booze and chicks, eventually you're going to get laid.

    If you get laid, there's a chance of procreating.

    So mo'money, more booze, more fucking = helping the birth rate and future generations.

  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    And they hire the most employees, pay the most in wages and benefits, too
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    dflea said:

    Gwad said:

    Good news for America has hondo looking for bad news

    I don't think these things equate to the totality of personal well being. I guess we have different ideas about good news. I still respect your passion for writing about what you believe in. <3 </p>
    I don't see anything about the totality of well bring but I do see good economic news that gets people more money in their pocket which is portion of well being.

    That's considered good news by most folks.

    Money can't buy happiness but then again, neither can poverty
    Nobody was ever bummed out by more money. If they are, they should use the extra money to buy a can of gas to set themselves on fire with.

    Helps Trump, IMO.
    I'm hearing HondoFS is bummed out more American's have extra money. Just what I'm hearing.

    Maybe one of those with extra money can buy him a can of gas and a funnel. Then he can swallow a road flare like it's Hillary's cock.
    Your obsession is noted.

    That being said, the issues with the bill is there's a lot of people that'll pay more in taxes in lower income brackets. And the majority of the dollar amount is going to corporations and the wealthy.

    What happens when conservatives turn a $600 billion deficit into over a trillion again?
    They'll be 9 trillion behind Obunghole!
    There are not lots of people who will pay more in lower brackets

    Flat out lie
    Great quoting as always
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Gwad said:

    It seems a 'money in my pocket now' is a drug seeking behavior that holds no long term sustainability to be a prosperous society. How do these changes benefit the generations to follow us?

    If you gots money, you spend it on booze and chicks.

    If you're spending money on booze and chicks, eventually you're going to get laid.

    If you get laid, there's a chance of procreating.

    So mo'money, more booze, more fucking = helping the birth rate and future generations.

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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs. Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs. Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
    Please to show us the spending cuts.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2018

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs.

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
    Please to show us the spending cuts.
    "Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs.

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
    Please to show us the spending cuts.
    "Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!
    Cutting taxes without cutting spending is dumb and bad.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Swaye said:

    In every thread: Hondo says dumb shit.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Swaye said:

    In this thread: Hondo says dumb shit.

    Like what?
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Progressives are backed into corner after 8 years promoting economic and personal virtues of being on food stamps and welfare now trying to diss work and $1000 bonuses and still portray capitalism as heartless
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Dude61 said:

    Progressives are backed into corner after 8 years promoting economic and personal virtues of being on food stamps and welfare now trying to diss work and $1000 bonuses and still portray capitalism as heartless

    Capitalism is awesome.

    Running up the deficit is irresponsible.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs.

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
    Please to show us the spending cuts.
    "Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!
    Cutting taxes without cutting spending is dumb and bad.
    Cuts are implied. Smaller gov needs less money. HTH
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs.

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
    Please to show us the spending cuts.
    "Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!
    Cutting taxes without cutting spending is dumb and bad.
    Cuts are implied. Smaller gov needs less money. HTH
    Find any Republican willing to cut spending yet?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,682 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    This is the point everyone misses. The tax cut is sold to grow the economy. If you give $1,000 to 10 middle class people. Every dollar off they goes back into the economy. If you give that same $10,000 to Bill Gates, he won't even notice it.

    While some corporations are giving bonuses and pay raises. Which is great. That's fractions of their cut. The majority is going to the stockholders through dividends and growth. And the vast majority of stock is not owned by the middle class.

    If the government has too much money, then I fully agree it should go to the wealthy.
    Money is being repatriated that NEVER would have come back. Lots of the money from cuts is going into expansion and hiring employees to fill the new jobs.

    I know this goes against your "the government will take care of me" mantra but get the hell over it comrade!
    Please to show us the spending cuts.
    "Time to slash this out of control government growth and overreach then the government won't need as much in taxes and they can be cut some more!
    Cutting taxes without cutting spending is dumb and bad.
    Cuts are implied. Smaller gov needs less money. HTH
    Find any Republican willing to cut spending yet?
    Easier than finding a liberal willing to.
  • Gwad
    Gwad Member Posts: 2,855

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    Its not working this way though. The percentage points are lower for the poorest and higher for the wealthiest. This is from what I have read anyways.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737

    Dude61 said:

    Progressives are backed into corner after 8 years promoting economic and personal virtues of being on food stamps and welfare now trying to diss work and $1000 bonuses and still portray capitalism as heartless

    Capitalism is awesome.

    Running up the deficit is irresponsible.
    Just print more money. No problem!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Of course the majority in any tax cut goes to corporations and the wealthy.


    They pay the most taxes.

    The tax code from over a half century ago was designed to put you into a higher tax bracket the wealthier you became. Why is this not fair, as your needs are being met.
    What argument are you making

    I'm saying that a 1 percent tax cut for the wealthy is bigger than a 10 percent for the common folk

    So when people throw out "most goes to the wealthy and corporations" well duh
    Its not working this way though. The percentage points are lower for the poorest and higher for the wealthiest. This is from what I have read anyways.
    Maybe you should stop reading and just listen to us
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,427 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    In this thread: Hondo says dumb shit.

    Swaye said:

    In every thread: Hondo says dumb shit.

    Water is wet POTY
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254