Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.
Trump's Davos Speech Leaked; Trumpers you are in for a treat!
Comments
-
When you are reduced to arguing that a border wall won't work you've lost the argument already2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
Countries around the world secure their borders and even use walls where needed. -
Yep, $25 billion of us taxpayer money and then all of a sudden there’s no more people, drugs or money illegally entering the country. Not simple minded at all.RaceBannon said:
When you are reduced to arguing that a border wall won't work you've lost the argument already2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
Countries around the world secure their borders and even use walls where needed. -
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem. -
Race have you ever been by the border? I have in a few places. They have this thing called technology. A wall over heat signatures scans is like saying you prefer a landline to a cell phone.RaceBannon said:
When you are reduced to arguing that a border wall won't work you've lost the argument already2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
Countries around the world secure their borders and even use walls where needed. -
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
-
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216 -
It really is a joke.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
My dad's employees go back for vacation with their families
Back to work next week no problemo -
There are many ways including walls, fences, and tech2001400ex said:
Race have you ever been by the border? I have in a few places. They have this thing called technology. A wall over heat signatures scans is like saying you prefer a landline to a cell phone.RaceBannon said:
When you are reduced to arguing that a border wall won't work you've lost the argument already2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
Countries around the world secure their borders and even use walls where needed.
You're saying a wall won't work which is fucking stupid -
And with the economy taking off again the illegal immigration is going to ramp up again
-
I didn't say this. Once again your trying to assign a simple minded look that none of us every advocated. Its beneath you. Hondo level arguing skillCirrhosisDawg said:
Yep, $25 billion of us taxpayer money and then all of a sudden there’s no more people, drugs or money illegally entering the country. Not simple minded at all.RaceBannon said:
When you are reduced to arguing that a border wall won't work you've lost the argument already2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
Countries around the world secure their borders and even use walls where needed.
Do better
If I have a security system, a gate, and a wall at my swanky IE mansion someone may in fact be able to get through. But they are going to have to fucking work at it, not just walk in
-
If you’d just keep your mouth shut about the new jobs, wage/benefit increases and bonuses they won’t want to come here.RaceBannon said:And with the economy taking off again the illegal immigration is going to ramp up again
-
Israel disagrees.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again -
Schumer rejects Trump’s immigration proposal.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/26/trump-immigration-proposal-chuck-schumer-371139
Trump is painting the Dems into a corner. -
You have a guy who has negotiated shit all his life versus a guy who is used to running train on the opposition.
Not going to end well for Chuck -
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater.
-
Your assumption that 1,870,000 trips were on the ground across the border is FS. Let alone another 3,3740,000. You do realize there's more ways to get into America than to cross on the ground. Right?PurpleThrobber said:
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater. -
like, oh, I don’t know... maybe... Visa overstays?
-
Fine - cut it in half. That still means there were damned near a MILLION fuck ups on your 'controlled border'.2001400ex said:
Your assumption that 1,870,000 trips were on the ground across the border is FS. Let alone another 3,3740,000. You do realize there's more ways to get into America than to cross on the ground. Right?PurpleThrobber said:
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater.
You'd be more convincing saying it's all those pesky Canadians packing weed in from the north.
The fucking borders aren't controlled for christ sake.
-
A border is worthless and meaningless if it can't be enforced and policed. Everyone knows this. Everyone.RaceBannon said:I believe that the deal on the table is amnesty for DACA kids which I always supported in return for everything else I want. I don't think that is 1.8 million. Chain lightning immigration is not part of the deal
We were never as simple minded as you thought bro. Sorry to disappoint
This is a win for America. The democrats own base don't like the open borders policy. Helps Trump IMO
Nobody really cares if it's enforced by patrolling officers, drones, landmines or alligators. Most people want it respected, by whatever means necessary, R or D.
The Wall may be dumb, expensive and symbolic, but who really gives a fuck? Only the anarchists who want open borders, no governments, no countries, etc. are dumb enough to give a fuck that we might have a thick wall instead of the Tortilla curtain separating Tiajuana from San Diego. The "it won't work" people miss the point entirely. The IRS doesn't catch every tax cheater. They only need to catch 1 in a million, nail the fucker to a cross, and the other 999,999 toe the line.
We got some real small-minded mother-fuckers on these boards.
Oh, yeah. That's part of the fun. -
YellowSnow said:
The waiting line for Trump’s speech in #Davos (still nearly one hour to go). Has the feeling of teenagers queuing for a concert, but this are billionaires and CEOs #tictocnews @tictoc #Davos2018 pic.twitter.com/yxoNQ3uXCP
— Javier Blas (@JavierBlas2) January 26, 2018
Looks like Trumps speech was popular with the Davos crowd. -
The problem with the 11 million figure is that was what 10 15 years ago they came up with it? No ones snuck in since then? Somewhere between 20 and 40 million.PurpleThrobber said:
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater. -
-
The statistics suggest net migration from Mexico since then is negative.Sledog said:
The problem with the 11 million figure is that was what 10 15 years ago they came up with it? No ones snuck in since then? Somewhere between 20 and 40 million.PurpleThrobber said:
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater. -
Economy suckedTierbsHsotBoobs said:
The statistics suggest net migration from Mexico since then is negative.Sledog said:
The problem with the 11 million figure is that was what 10 15 years ago they came up with it? No ones snuck in since then? Somewhere between 20 and 40 million.PurpleThrobber said:
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater. -
Bullshit!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The statistics suggest net migration from Mexico since then is negative.Sledog said:
The problem with the 11 million figure is that was what 10 15 years ago they came up with it? No ones snuck in since then? Somewhere between 20 and 40 million.PurpleThrobber said:
Christ man. I already know you hate maff.2001400ex said:
No.PurpleThrobber said:
Thanks for proving my point.2001400ex said:
Wut?PurpleThrobber said:
Pssst.2001400ex said:
Please to be telling me how a border wall will suddenly reduce illegal immigrants. You act like there's currently no control over the border.RaceBannon said:
How are illegals good for the country? We know they are good for votes for the democrats and cheap labor for the Chamber of Commerce GOP2001400ex said:
At what point do our politicians make decisions on what's in the best interest of our country rather than their pocket book? Sounds like you prefer the latter.Dude61 said:
If Democrats accept Trump's DACA deal they alienate their far left base by caving on the wall. If they reject the deal, they alienate everyone else by being AmericaLast. By sweetening a deal Democrat leadership cannot accept, Trump completely marginalizes them for 11/2018. Get it?CirrhosisDawg said:Meanwhile, while the orange buffoon mixes with the global elite and the third lady commandeers a 757 to fly her solo post-stormy Daniels to Florida, the administration proposes amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for a $25 billion Wall and border security package.
Maga?
Sounds like you got it backwards
Again
There's no control over the border.
But since a tipping point in 2012, the net flow of migration from Mexico, both legal and not, has actually decreased. From 2009 to 2014, Pew estimates that 1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S., while 870,000 Mexicans arrived.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/27/even-before-trump-more-mexicans-were-leaving-the-us-than-arriving/?utm_term=.b694f4d8f2a4
The report is referenced in the article if you don't like the source. And it hasn't changed since either. The wall is a solution looking for a problem.
870,000 walked (maybe swam, maybe tunneled, who fuck the cares) in and 1 M walked out.
That's 1,870,000 trips across the fucking uncontrolled border.
Christ.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”
Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
Let's just call it 11 Million illegals in the US.
34% of 11 Million is still 3,740,000.
That means instead of 1,870,000 trips back and forth as above....we're up to 3,740,000 trips across. That's roughly every man, woman and child in the greater Seattle metroplex waltzing across the Rio Grande and such.
Maff hater.
