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Trump's Presidency Rests on the Immigration Issue

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Democrats on border security:


    Funny. I recall deportations going up from 2009 on.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    edited January 2018
    2001400ex said:

    But Trump just wants to throw $18 billion at a wall. Because..... The isn't issue border security. It's doing something that's dumb just because he wants to. There's a reason no other president or Congress has just built a wall. It's only purpose is symbolic to rile up the base.
    Agreed.

    Unlike free school for everybody. His jingle worked.

    Bernie and Hilarys didn't.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 46,686 Standard Supporter



    #Jewbs
    Build that motherfucking wall.

    Oh god oh god....
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,105 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    You do realize most illegal immigrants entered the country legally and over stayed their visa. Right?
    KOMO 4 buttfucker
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,026 Founders Club
    The premise of the OP is FS.

    It's the economy, stupid.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    KOMO 4 buttfucker
    If you want to bitch about the source, the article links to the center for migration studies.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    2001400ex said:

    Funny. I recall deportations going up from 2009 on.
    Obama had one of the highest deportation rates of any president. Unfortunately most were repeat offenders. After deportation they would simply enter through our porous border again and again.

    #inflated numbers
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Dude61 said:

    Obama had one of the highest deportation rates of any president. Unfortunately most were repeat offenders. After deportation they would simply enter through our porous border again and again.

    #inflated numbers
    That's right. I remember that Obama executive order to destroy the existing wall.
  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,254 Swaye's Wigwam
    #porous border
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    2001400ex said:

    That's right. I remember that Obama executive order to destroy the existing wall.
    Make up your mind.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    Make up your mind.
    Wut?
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,843
    edited January 2018

    Betray his base on this one and he's door ass out in 2020.

    These 4 items are non negotiable:

    --End chain migration.
    --End the visa lottery program.
    --Install a very strict merit based system: Only 5 star recruits need apply
    --Build a wall

    As long as these 4 concessions are won, his base will be perfectly happy to allow some, most or even all 800K of the 'dreamers' (illegals) to remain in the US.

    disagree. at this point, his base will, at worst, consider him the much lesser of two evils. no way with where the cuntry is now that his base deserts him. He'd have to go full-fledged lib for that.

    Nuh uh. Nope. The only way he's door-ass-out is if more non-Trumps turn out. It is quite literally going to be a "which party gets more of its huge number of lazy asses off the couch to vote" election. You can see it on social media: the country is sharply cut in half, everyone has lost their minds and has entrenched themselves to a point where I barely ever hear or see anyone have a rational, much less intellectually honest, debate anymore. People are voting identity politics for the foreseeable future.

    Both parties and everyone is to blame for that, but there you have it.

    Trump would have to TRY to lose his base at this point. He's need to go full Roy Moore for that to happen, and even then, he'd only lose one layer. The rest will stick by him because (1) nobody in this climate is admitting they were wrong, and (2) what else are they going to do?
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,276

    disagree. at this point, his base will, at worst, consider him the much lesser of two evils. no way with where the cuntry is now that his base deserts him. He'd have to go full-fledged lib for that.

    Nuh uh. Nope. The only way he's door-ass-out is if more non-Trumps turn out. It is quite literally going to be a "which party gets more of its huge number of lazy asses off the couch to vote" election. You can see it on social media: the country is sharply cut in half, everyone has lost their minds and has entrenched themselves to a point where I barely ever hear or see anyone have a rational, much less intellectually honest, debate anymore. People are voting identity politics for the foreseeable future.

    Both parties and everyone is to blame for that, but there you have it.

    Trump would have to TRY to lose his base at this point. He's need to go full Roy Moore for that to happen, and even then, he'd only lose one layer. The rest will stick by him because (1) nobody in this climate is admitting they were wrong, and (2) what else are they going to do?
    True.

  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,026 Founders Club
    edited January 2018

    You can see it on social media: the country is sharply cut in half, everyone has lost their minds and has entrenched themselves to a point where I barely ever hear or see anyone have a rational, much less intellectually honest, debate anymore.
    Yes. Agree.





    Trump would have to TRY to lose his base at this point. He's need to go full Roy Moore for that to happen, and even then, he'd only lose one layer. The rest will stick by him because (1) nobody in this climate is admitting they were wrong, and (2) what else are they going to do?
    If Jeff SessionsFS stays ...



    ... I'm fucking OUT.






    Either way, I'm all-in on Mark Cuban.




    I'm sure this will rattle cages, but IDGAF ... Even though I'm sure I don't like a lot of her political positions ... I would give real consideration to casting vote for Oprah, because a) you don't get to be a billionaire without knowing how to lead people; and b) she seems to be genuinely a good person.

    Obligatory: Awful warm for February POTD
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2018

    disagree. at this point, his base will, at worst, consider him the much lesser of two evils. no way with where the cuntry is now that his base deserts him. He'd have to go full-fledged lib for that.

    Nuh uh. Nope. The only way he's door-ass-out is if more non-Trumps turn out. It is quite literally going to be a "which party gets more of its huge number of lazy asses off the couch to vote" election. You can see it on social media: the country is sharply cut in half, everyone has lost their minds and has entrenched themselves to a point where I barely ever hear or see anyone have a rational, much less intellectually honest, debate anymore. People are voting identity politics for the foreseeable future.

    Both parties and everyone is to blame for that, but there you have it.

    Trump would have to TRY to lose his base at this point. He's need to go full Roy Moore for that to happen, and even then, he'd only lose one layer. The rest will stick by him because (1) nobody in this climate is admitting they were wrong, and (2) what else are they going to do?
    As far as immigration is concerned, full fledge lib is being weak on it at best, being Angela Merkel at worst. In this climate, dems are far closer to the Merkel (clinically insane, culturally suicidal) end of spectrum. His voters expect nothing short of him sticking it to them and their Soros-inspired globalist agenda big time. His hardline stance on immigration was a central pillar of his victory.

    You actually agree with my position in a roudabout way, when you say he's door ass out if more non-Trumps turn out. Guaranteed Trump supporters will not turn out in large numbers if he betrays the base and doesn't make the wholesale changes he promised to make on the campaign trail. He WILL lose his base and consequently the next election if he fails to be hardline on immigration and effect real change.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    Yes. Agree.






    I'm sure this will rattle cages, but IDGAF ... Even though I'm sure I don't like a lot of her political positions ... I would give real consideration to casting vote for Oprah, because a) you don't get to be a billionaire without knowing how to lead people; and b) she seems to be genuinely a good person.

    Obligatory: Awful warm for February POTD
    So basically the exact opposite of Trump. Agreed.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,026 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    So basically the exact opposite of Trump. Agreed.
    He leads you every day Trumpet. Right to the Tug Tavern.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    He leads you every day Trumpet. Right to the Tug Tavern.

    16 minutes.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,026 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    16 minutes.
    Thanks Trumpet!

    The Bored is so lucky to have you. We count our blessings everyday!








    #aclockworkshill
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