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dnc
dnc Member Posts: 56,839
in The Fisching Hole (Recruiting)
Cumming into the season I think reasonable projections would have had UW loosing 4 kids to early entry: Vea, Gaskin, Gaines, and Adams. Maybe you think Gaskin was more likely to stay than go, but you still you had a guy like McGary making up for that. The o/u had to be at least 3.5.

Well, Adams got hurt, Gaines made the surprising decision to stay and rumors have Gaskin doing the same. Right now the O/U is like 1.2.

That obviously helps 2018 a ton, but that's 2-3 scholarships not being freed up for this class that one could have reasonably projected to be available.

The question is, can/will we make up for those spots with added couch repos?

I'd really like to see us? add five more kids to this class (Eason, Deonte J, Cravens, Martin and a safety). I know we *can* make that much room, my question is, will/would we? How many spots do we realistically have to fill?
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    RaceBannon said:

    Without looking in depth it seems like anyone who was a receiver this year not named Jones, Bryant, or #12 should LEAVE

    Chico too but yeah.

    I agree I like Fuller.

    Baccellia can stay if he takes Browning's scholly.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    BlastDoor said:

    right now, UW has 83 players on the roster, with Kentrell Love, Gadd and no walk-on scholarships:

    QB - 5 (Browning/Gadd/Haener/Sirmon/Yankoff)
    RB - 6 (Gaskin/Ahmed/McGrew/Pleasant/Lowe/Newton)
    WR - 11 (Baccellia/Chico/Fuller/Cook/Ty/Pounds/Bynum/Lenius/Chin/Osborne/Spiker)
    TE - 6 (Bryant/Neal/Sample/Otton/Kizer/Culp)
    OL - 15 (Harris/McGary/Roberts/Norgaard/Jaxson/Bainivalu/Hilbers/James/Trey/Sosebee/Wattenburg/Burleson/Curne/Ale/Mele)
    DL - 9 (Gaines/Levi/Jaylen/S. Bowman/Scrempos/Draco/Liu/Zion/Taimani)
    OLB - 7 (Benning/Amandre/Rice/Warren/Tryon/Tevis/Ngata)
    ILB - 8 (Wellington/Beavers/BBK/Manu/Eifler/Tafisi/Sirmon/Kaho)
    DB - 13 (Murphy/Molden/Joyner/Dotson/McKinney/JoJo/Love/Gilchrist/Rapp/Miller/Taylor/Gordon/Hampton)
    K - 1 (Soderberg)
    P - 1 (Whitford)
    LS - 1 (Carty)

    Love and Gadd can be leaving, that number could go down to 81. M. Bryant, R. Bowman, Pulu and Bronson can get scholarships, so that number can go up to 87. What this means? I don't know, just putting this data I have so someone smarter can analysis it faster.

    Good chit.

    Love and Gadd seem likely to be gone. That puts us even since most if not all of those walk ons are getting schollies IMO.

    So we need five more couch sales to get all those guys in (or non walk on schollies).

    It would seem two from the WR group are easy - Chin and Lenius most likely, but no one would miss Pounds or Baccellia either.

    OL I don't know the depth nearly as well as some but I know people seem to hate Roberts, Hilbers, James and Sosebee so let's say one of them goes.

    RB, DL and the specialists I'm guessing stay as is. Did Vizcaino graduato?

    OLB Rice maybe?

    ILB Manu is the only option.

    DB Dotson could go, seems the only one.

    So 3-5 is definitely doable.

    Thanks man.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    BlastDoor said:

    right now, UW has 83 players on the roster, with Kentrell Love, Gadd and no walk-on scholarships:

    QB - 5 (Browning/Gadd/Haener/Sirmon/Yankoff)
    RB - 6 (Gaskin/Ahmed/McGrew/Pleasant/Lowe/Newton)
    WR - 11 (Baccellia/Chico/Fuller/Cook/Ty/Pounds/Bynum/Lenius/Chin/Osborne/Spiker)
    TE - 6 (Bryant/Neal/Sample/Otton/Kizer/Culp)
    OL - 15 (Harris/McGary/Roberts/Norgaard/Jaxson/Bainivalu/Hilbers/James/Trey/Sosebee/Wattenburg/Burleson/Curne/Ale/Mele)
    DL - 9 (Gaines/Levi/Jaylen/S. Bowman/Scrempos/Draco/Liu/Zion/Taimani)
    OLB - 7 (Benning/Amandre/Rice/Warren/Tryon/Tevis/Ngata)
    ILB - 8 (Wellington/Beavers/BBK/Manu/Eifler/Tafisi/Sirmon/Kaho)
    DB - 13 (Murphy/Molden/Joyner/Dotson/McKinney/JoJo/Love/Gilchrist/Rapp/Miller/Taylor/Gordon/Hampton)
    K - 1 (Soderberg)
    P - 1 (Whitford)
    LS - 1 (Carty)

    Love and Gadd can be leaving, that number could go down to 81. M. Bryant, R. Bowman, Pulu and Bronson can get scholarships, so that number can go up to 87. What this means? I don't know, just putting this data I have so someone smarter can analysis it faster.

    Looking at the list and potential couch sellers ...

    DBG will be leaving ... Haener may be encouraged to leave if Eason comes in AFTER 2018

    I think we will see at least 1 if not 2 pieces of WR attrition (Brayden and Chin obvious candidates)

    There will be an OL couch sell would be my guess ... particularly if we are recruiting another

    I don’t see any DL attrition other than maybe Scrempos ... Bronson will get a scholarship ... I could see a transfer or grad transfer as part of the equation

    At OLB, Warren has moved to FB/H-Back ... only possible candidate I see is Rice

    At ILB, I could see Manu moving on as I don’t think he will ever get in the depth

    At DB, the candidates are Love and Dotson ... although I’m not sure that Dotson will be encouraged per se as he is a valuable special teams player

    I would be surprised if we didn’t try to do something with Soderberg ... he does not have a P12 leg

    There are a lot of candidates out there
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  • Bread
    Bread Member Posts: 4,075
    Baccellia isn't leaving. He has a strong hold on the Marvin Hall Jr. Memorial WR position. Will be mostly useless outside 3-4 plays a year and probably have the best NFL career of any WR on our current roster.
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  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    I heard that DBG is staying.

    Just what I am hearing, don't twist.
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    jhfstyle24 said:

    I heard that DBG is staying.

    Just what I am hearing, don't twist.

    By his own chinclination or by chinvitation?
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    Turner and James need to GTFO also
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    Turner and James need to GTFO also

    Burelson first
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    Turner and James need to GTFO also

    Burelson first
    Burleson to DE
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  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    Turner and James need to GTFO also

    Burelson first
    Burleson to DE
    Burelson is a basketball player.
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    edited January 2018
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    Turner and James need to GTFO also

    Burelson first
    Burleson to DE
    Burelson is a basketball player.
    Wrong bored fucko. He can block passes then
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Here are the guys who should go and the coaches that recruited them:

    QB - Bridge-Gadd (Smith; he won't go), Haener (Smith; he won't go)
    WR - Dickey (Pease), Pounds (Pease), Fuller (Pease), Baccelia (Pease), Chin (Pease/Hamdan)
    TE - Neal (Paopao)
    OL - James (Straußer), Burleson (Straußer), Sosebee (Straußer)
    OLB - Myles Rice (Kwiatkowski/Choate)
    ILB - Kyler Manu (Gregory)
    DB - Jomon Dotson (Bonapha)

    With Pounds/Fuller/Baccelia - one of those guys is fine. Three is a nightmare.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    NorwegianHusky said:

    Am I the only one who thinks Fuller is a decent role player? He's obviously not great, but he's not useless like those other guys.

    Fuller/Pounds/Baccelia: pick one.
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  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    Am I the only one who thinks Fuller is a decent role player? He's obviously not great, but he's not useless like those other guys.

    Fuller/Pounds/Baccelia: pick one.
    Fuller. He could be a good slot guy for us if our QB had an arm.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    RhythmicSlappingDawg said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    NorwegianHusky said:

    Am I the only one who thinks Fuller is a decent role player? He's obviously not great, but he's not useless like those other guys.

    Fuller/Pounds/Baccelia: pick one.
    Fuller. He could be a good slot guy for us if our QB had an arm.
    sure.gif
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Fuller was the best of the three last year and the best of the three this year. There’s no debate.

    I agree. Not a bad 3rd or 4th WR on a legit team.
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,161
    Swaye said:

    dnc said:

    Fuller was the best of the three last year and the best of the three this year. There’s no debate.

    I agree. Not a bad 3rd or 4th WR on a legit team.
    This. Fuller kinda reminds me of Devin Aguilar. Solid college player who isn’t great in any one area.
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  • HUSKYFANATIC
    HUSKYFANATIC Member Posts: 1,651
    It's at 83 isn't it?
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  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    HUSKYFANATIC said:

    It's at 83 isn't it?

    82 after Kentrell Love
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