Demographics querey
Where I live there are a TON more true black kids than mixed kids. If you were competing in the SEC with a strategy that appealed moreso to mixed kids than black kids you'd fail royally. However, my impression from my time in the NW (and this may have just been the part of town I lived in, shoutout to @DelridgeDoog) is that there were a lot more mixed kids. Obviously this makes sense socially - mixing of races is a lot more accepted in the west than the south. But is it common enough out there that you can actually be #LightSkinU and compete?
I imagine numbers on this type of thing are hard to come by since we?ve mostly just considered a kid with one drop of African blood to be black for so long that there may not be good numbers on how many of those kids have a cracker parent, but it would be very chinteresting to see what that pool actually looks like in the states UW primarily recruits.
TL;DR - Pete's not changing his recruiting philosophy anytime soon, so the question is can this one actually succeed at higher levels?
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I would bet 35% of black kids in the Seattle area are lightskin.
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I think so. Gordon, Molden, Qualls and Spiker being a good start. I think the key to doing this at UW will be the ability to secure and develop/motivate high end Poly kids. Pepper in straight outta the Congo African kids and every local and elite full Afro-Americans and we have a real shot. As I stated earlier on the original FS/SS thread it will also take an ELITE transcendent QB to take it all over the top. Last years team with Deshaun Watson is a legit title threat.
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I'd wager that it can and will given time, but hard for me to be objective being the slowest of slow strategy guys.
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I agree the true African kids are a huge piece of this puzzle for us. Getting the Ngatas in 2019 and 2020 will be huge. Getting Ali Gaye into school would have been huge as well. Those types will go a long way to supplement #LightSkinU and emerging #PolyU.theknowledge said:I think so. Gordon, Molden, Qualls and Spiker being a good start. I think the key to doing this at UW will be the ability to secure and develop/motivate high end Poly kids. Pepper in straight outta the Congo African kids and every local and elite full Afro-Americans and we have a real shot. As I stated earlier on the original FS/SS thread it will also take an ELITE transcendent QB to take it all over the top. Last years team with Deshaun Watson is a legit title threat.
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I love that your argument was that we can do this "given time".YellowSnow said:I'd wager that it can and will given time, but hard for me to be objective being the slowest of slow strategy guys.
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If I am following we are talking two parent families whether both black or mixed.
Where does the single parent family come in? Who do we have that relates to Mom in a single parent situation?
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Pete can charm the moms but then the hard ass uncles and cousins will come in and flip that shit back to USC every day of the week. #faithfamilyfootballRaceBannon said:If I am following we are talking two parent families whether both black or mixed.
Where does the single parent family come in? Who do we have that relates to Mom in a single parent situation?
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Most of my black friends are white.
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Jeremiah Martin will be a good test, I guess. I doubt he has white in his bloodline.
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Exactly - this is something really important.dnc said:
I agree the true African kids are a huge piece of this puzzle for us. Getting the Ngatas in 2019 and 2020 will be huge. Getting Ali Gaye into school would have been huge as well. Those types will go a long way to supplement #LightSkinU and emerging #PolyU.theknowledge said:I think so. Gordon, Molden, Qualls and Spiker being a good start. I think the key to doing this at UW will be the ability to secure and develop/motivate high end Poly kids. Pepper in straight outta the Congo African kids and every local and elite full Afro-Americans and we have a real shot. As I stated earlier on the original FS/SS thread it will also take an ELITE transcendent QB to take it all over the top. Last years team with Deshaun Watson is a legit title threat.
What we think of as a 'RACE' is a combination between a phenotype (physical appearance) and cultural context. For instance, it would be really weird to tell two Nigerians that Igbos are Yorubas are 'the same'. They are 'different'. And it's mostly about cultural context.
The other thing - to not get overly eugenic here - what we think of as 'black people' in the US are largely WEST AFRICANS. You don't see a bunch of fucking Kenyans and shit disproportionately tearing up major athletic events. However West Africans (which are what America has the most of - unfortunately through slavery) tend to tear shit up.
No one fully knows why.
So, for us - and for Stanford - getting West African kids is a big deal. Stanford has made a living off West African dudes. Owusu is one of the most common names in Ghana for instance.
West Africans in this country are generally (this is complicated like anything else, but IN GENERAL) like any other immigrant group in that they prize education as a means to success and is usually one of the primary reasons to have emigrated in the first place. Hence why I can't easily pronounce half the last names on Stanford's roster at any one time.
If you ever want to check where a name is from, I suggest using this database: http://forebears.io/surnames -
Ty Jones seems FAST to me. Good pull by Lubick.
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theknowledge said:
Pete can charm the moms but then the hard ass uncles and cousins will come in and flip that shit back to USC every day of the week. #faithfamilyfootballRaceBannon said:If I am following we are talking two parent families whether both black or mixed.
Where does the single parent family come in? Who do we have that relates to Mom in a single parent situation?
Bobby Bowden could charm them regardless of race.
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Why do you hate marathons???Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly - this is something really important.dnc said:
I agree the true African kids are a huge piece of this puzzle for us. Getting the Ngatas in 2019 and 2020 will be huge. Getting Ali Gaye into school would have been huge as well. Those types will go a long way to supplement #LightSkinU and emerging #PolyU.theknowledge said:I think so. Gordon, Molden, Qualls and Spiker being a good start. I think the key to doing this at UW will be the ability to secure and develop/motivate high end Poly kids. Pepper in straight outta the Congo African kids and every local and elite full Afro-Americans and we have a real shot. As I stated earlier on the original FS/SS thread it will also take an ELITE transcendent QB to take it all over the top. Last years team with Deshaun Watson is a legit title threat.
What we think of as a 'RACE' is a combination between a phenotype (physical appearance) and cultural context. For instance, it would be really weird to tell two Nigerians that Igbos are Yorubas are 'the same'. They are 'different'. And it's mostly about cultural context.
The other thing - to not get overly eugenic here - what we think of as 'black people' in the US are largely WEST AFRICANS. You don't see a bunch of fucking Kenyans and shit disproportionately tearing up major athletic events. However West Africans (which are what America has the most of - unfortunately through slavery) tend to tear shit up.
No one fully knows why.
So, for us - and for Stanford - getting West African kids is a big deal. Stanford has made a living off West African dudes. Owusu is one of the most common names in Ghana for instance.
West Africans in this country are generally (this is complicated like anything else, but IN GENERAL) like any other immigrant group in that they prize education as a means to success and is usually one of the primary reasons to have emigrated in the first place. Hence why I can't easily pronounce half the last names on Stanford's roster at any one time.
If you ever want to check where a name is from, I suggest using this database: http://forebears.io/surnames -
crispedSwaye said:Ty Jones seems FAST to me. Good pull by Bush.
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He hates WSU trackdnc said:
Why do you hate marathons???Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly - this is something really important.dnc said:
I agree the true African kids are a huge piece of this puzzle for us. Getting the Ngatas in 2019 and 2020 will be huge. Getting Ali Gaye into school would have been huge as well. Those types will go a long way to supplement #LightSkinU and emerging #PolyU.theknowledge said:I think so. Gordon, Molden, Qualls and Spiker being a good start. I think the key to doing this at UW will be the ability to secure and develop/motivate high end Poly kids. Pepper in straight outta the Congo African kids and every local and elite full Afro-Americans and we have a real shot. As I stated earlier on the original FS/SS thread it will also take an ELITE transcendent QB to take it all over the top. Last years team with Deshaun Watson is a legit title threat.
What we think of as a 'RACE' is a combination between a phenotype (physical appearance) and cultural context. For instance, it would be really weird to tell two Nigerians that Igbos are Yorubas are 'the same'. They are 'different'. And it's mostly about cultural context.
The other thing - to not get overly eugenic here - what we think of as 'black people' in the US are largely WEST AFRICANS. You don't see a bunch of fucking Kenyans and shit disproportionately tearing up major athletic events. However West Africans (which are what America has the most of - unfortunately through slavery) tend to tear shit up.
No one fully knows why.
So, for us - and for Stanford - getting West African kids is a big deal. Stanford has made a living off West African dudes. Owusu is one of the most common names in Ghana for instance.
West Africans in this country are generally (this is complicated like anything else, but IN GENERAL) like any other immigrant group in that they prize education as a means to success and is usually one of the primary reasons to have emigrated in the first place. Hence why I can't easily pronounce half the last names on Stanford's roster at any one time.
If you ever want to check where a name is from, I suggest using this database: http://forebears.io/surnames
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And Rugby!!dnc said:
Why do you hate marathons???Dennis_DeYoung said:
Exactly - this is something really important.dnc said:
I agree the true African kids are a huge piece of this puzzle for us. Getting the Ngatas in 2019 and 2020 will be huge. Getting Ali Gaye into school would have been huge as well. Those types will go a long way to supplement #LightSkinU and emerging #PolyU.theknowledge said:I think so. Gordon, Molden, Qualls and Spiker being a good start. I think the key to doing this at UW will be the ability to secure and develop/motivate high end Poly kids. Pepper in straight outta the Congo African kids and every local and elite full Afro-Americans and we have a real shot. As I stated earlier on the original FS/SS thread it will also take an ELITE transcendent QB to take it all over the top. Last years team with Deshaun Watson is a legit title threat.
What we think of as a 'RACE' is a combination between a phenotype (physical appearance) and cultural context. For instance, it would be really weird to tell two Nigerians that Igbos are Yorubas are 'the same'. They are 'different'. And it's mostly about cultural context.
The other thing - to not get overly eugenic here - what we think of as 'black people' in the US are largely WEST AFRICANS. You don't see a bunch of fucking Kenyans and shit disproportionately tearing up major athletic events. However West Africans (which are what America has the most of - unfortunately through slavery) tend to tear shit up.
No one fully knows why.
So, for us - and for Stanford - getting West African kids is a big deal. Stanford has made a living off West African dudes. Owusu is one of the most common names in Ghana for instance.
West Africans in this country are generally (this is complicated like anything else, but IN GENERAL) like any other immigrant group in that they prize education as a means to success and is usually one of the primary reasons to have emigrated in the first place. Hence why I can't easily pronounce half the last names on Stanford's roster at any one time.
If you ever want to check where a name is from, I suggest using this database: http://forebears.io/surnames
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Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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Engrrrish and some Bantu. I got Euro shit on my other side. #TeamLightskin.YellowSnow said:
I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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BTP changes ethnicities faster than Spooge changes handlesRhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Engrrrish and some Bantu. I got Euro shit on my other side. #TeamLightskin.YellowSnow said:
I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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Well, shit let's fucking cue up Graceland and change your handle to something TUFF like @ZuluDawg.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Engrrrish and some Bantu. I got Euro shit on my other side. #TeamLightskin.YellowSnow said:
I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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El oh El. All the other shit is a joke.dnc said:
BTP changes ethnicities faster than Spooge changes handlesRhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Engrrrish and some Bantu. I got Euro shit on my other side. #TeamLightskin.YellowSnow said:
I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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I'm of Xhosa ancestry #TeamLighskin. They are pieces of shit athletically compared most African tribes. Combine that with my Central/Eastern Euro heritage I'm a DDY -10.YellowSnow said:
Well, shit let's fucking cue up Graceland and change your handle to something TUFF like @ZuluDawg.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Engrrrish and some Bantu. I got Euro shit on my other side. #TeamLightskin.YellowSnow said:
I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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The real solution to this is to admit more black females to UW. Then, we need all our athletes to knock them up, thus making our legacy bloodlines blicker. It’ll pay off big time in the mid to late 2030s.
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#YouKnowHowIKnowYoureWhiteEsophagealFeces said:The real solution to this is to admit more black females to UW. Then, we need all our athletes to knock them up, thus making our legacy bloodlines blicker. It’ll pay off big time in the mid to late 2030s.
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@LincolnKennedyDawg says bullshit.EsophagealFeces said:The real solution to this is to admit more black females to UW. Then, we need all our athletes to knock them up, thus making our legacy bloodlines blicker. It’ll pay off big time in the mid to late 2030s.
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So you're saying 2038 will be special?
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RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
I'm of Xhosa ancestry #TeamLighskin. They are pieces of shit athletically compared most African tribes. Combine that with my Central/Eastern Euro heritage I'm a DDY -10.YellowSnow said:
Well, shit let's fucking cue up Graceland and change your handle to something TUFF like @ZuluDawg.RhythmicSlappingDawg said:
Engrrrish and some Bantu. I got Euro shit on my other side. #TeamLightskin.YellowSnow said:
I am confused as fuck - BTP is of Bantu ethnicity?RhythmicSlappingDawg said:Ahh my homeland #FucktheDutch. @YellowSnow, can I get a trigger warning next time you bring up the fuckers who persecuted my peoples?
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The black demographic is a disappearing demographic on the west coast. Asians and hispanics, not the biggest football populations, far outnumber The Blacks. There are less than 3 million black people on the west coast (CA, WA, OR). There is virtually the same, if not more, The Blacks, in Georgia alone. Let that sink in. I've actually wanted to punch the numbers for the last year or so and address this but didn't want to come off as too racist. ;-) I recognized this about a year ago that the number of, or amount of black kids UW has a shot at is very small. God bless the west coast poly population for making up some of the slack.
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I’d extend this thought to the whole of the US. Black demographic strength is decreasing generally as (primarily) the Latino population both grows and displaces then economically. This is a huge problem in my opinion as the US hasn’t properly addressed the socioeconomic issues impacting blacks and frankly the interest to do so by recent immigrants will diminish (my opinion) that possibility. Charlotte, NC - 20 years ago 60/40 white/black - Latinos are now 15-20% largely displacing blacks. SEC will still benefit disproportionately, but who knows the consequences?huskyhooligan said:The black demographic is a disappearing demographic on the west coast. Asians and hispanics, not the biggest football populations, far outnumber The Blacks. There are less than 3 million black people on the west coast (CA, WA, OR). There is virtually the same, if not more, The Blacks, in Georgia alone. Let that sink in. I've actually wanted to punch the numbers for the last year or so and address this but didn't want to come off as too racist. ;-) I recognized this about a year ago that the number of, or amount of black kids UW has a shot at is very small. God bless the west coast poly population for making up some of the slack.
