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'18 secondary: Better than '16?
TTJ
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SS McINTOSH McKinney
FS RAPP Gilchrist
NICKEL JOYNER Molden
CB MILLER Taylor
CB MURPHY Gordon
FS RAPP Gilchrist
NICKEL JOYNER Molden
CB MILLER Taylor
CB MURPHY Gordon
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Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
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No.
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I don't think so. JoJo and Rapp are the only certain upgrades over their younger selves. Baker, SMFJ, and LAN are all better than anyone listed until they're not.
Jones and King especially are tough guys to upgrade on or even replicate. All of the cornerbacks in question are plenty athletic and quick but Jones had crazy good technique to go with that wing span. King is just a rare human at 6'3" with exceptional quickness even when compared to much smaller corners. -
Deeper maybe. Certainly not as good starters wise.
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It's all a slow downward spiral from 2016 you shitdicks.
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I’m surprised I’m surprised how much Murphy/Miller underappreciation is going on in this thread.
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I just hope they stay injury-free the rest of the way
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Love em. Not enough reps due to injuries to claim equivalenceTTJ said:I’m surprised I’m surprised how much Murphy/Miller underappreciation is going on in this thread.
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Premature is all. Murphy has shown he's a big play guy but not that he's a shutdown one on one cover corner that can stay consistent over a whole season. Miller had a bit of a rough start this year but pulled it together. I think they're both good but haven't reached Jones-King stature yet and it's hard to predict it based on the little we've seen.TTJ said:I’m surprised I’m surprised how much Murphy/Miller underappreciation is going on in this thread.
So...maybe? -
New bored motto?Pitchfork51 said:It's all a slow downward spiral from 2016 you shitdicks.
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Enough said on that.Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF. -
Fully expect Rapp to be better than Budda to be honest. That’s my opinion so fuck off (even though he underperformed this year)Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
And none those guys from 2016 were as highly touted coming out of high school as Murphy Joyner, Gilchrist so let’s hope Lake is earning his pay. Murphy is a stud, he’s a first round pick.
Now if you add Marcus Black Panther Peters to that 2016 team, I will say fuck no, no how no way ever. That would have gone down as the best secondary in UW history. -
Ever since @jhfstyle24 shit all over his own dick we are all getting painted with this broad brush of hate.Pitchfork51 said:It's all a slow downward spiral from 2016 you shitdicks.
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Rapp and Budda are different players but it's hard to be more effective than a 1st team all American. Budda was ridiculous that year.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Fully expect Rapp to be better than Budda to be honest. That’s my opinion so fuck off (even though he underperformed this year)Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
And none those guys from 2016 were as highly touted coming out of high school as Murphy Joyner, Gilchrist so let’s hope Lake is earning his pay. Murphy is a stud, he’s a first round pick.
Now if you add Marcus Black Panther Peters to that 2016 team, I will say fuck no, no how no way ever. That would have gone down as the best secondary in UW history. -
Agree with all this. Budda was a one man wrecking crew back there by the end of last year and is continuing to shine at the next level. I think Mr. Murphy Jr. is going to emerge the same way.AtomicDawg said:
Rapp and Budda are different players but it's hard to be more effective than a 1st team all American. Budda was ridiculous that year.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Fully expect Rapp to be better than Budda to be honest. That’s my opinion so fuck off (even though he underperformed this year)Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
And none those guys from 2016 were as highly touted coming out of high school as Murphy Joyner, Gilchrist so let’s hope Lake is earning his pay. Murphy is a stud, he’s a first round pick.
Now if you add Marcus Black Panther Peters to that 2016 team, I will say fuck no, no how no way ever. That would have gone down as the best secondary in UW history. -
I have a lot of hate in my lifeSwaye said:
Ever since @jhfstyle24 shit all over his own dick we are all getting painted with this broad brush of hate.Pitchfork51 said:It's all a slow downward spiral from 2016 you shitdicks.
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Gil Dobie once told me the secondary was the key to the 16 and 18 teams going unbeaten
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Yup...and a really fucking good true freshman is coming in in Hampton. This is higher discussion board materialTTJ said:SS McINTOSH McKinney
FS RAPP Gilchrist
NICKEL JOYNER Molden
CB MILLER Taylor
CB MURPHY Gordon -
Miller was getting to that level before he got hurt.
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I’ve seen nothing to suggest this is even a remote possibility. SMFJ and LAN are the best corner tandem this program has ever had. Add Budda to that, and it doesn’t even matter who the SS was. Yes, Rapp is better, but he’s not Budda. We’ve only seen half a season of decent play from Miller and Murphy, and you want to crown them? The more I think about this, the dumber it gets.
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Rapp underperformed this year? Explain.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Fully expect Rapp to be better than Budda to be honest. That’s my opinion so fuck off (even though he underperformed this year)Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
And none those guys from 2016 were as highly touted coming out of high school as Murphy Joyner, Gilchrist so let’s hope Lake is earning his pay. Murphy is a stud, he’s a first round pick.
Now if you add Marcus Black Panther Peters to that 2016 team, I will say fuck no, no how no way ever. That would have gone down as the best secondary in UW history.
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pac-12 stayed the fuck away from him this whole season. He made plays when he was targeted.Gladstone said:
Rapp underperformed this year? Explain.NeGgaPlEaSe said:
Fully expect Rapp to be better than Budda to be honest. That’s my opinion so fuck off (even though he underperformed this year)Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
And none those guys from 2016 were as highly touted coming out of high school as Murphy Joyner, Gilchrist so let’s hope Lake is earning his pay. Murphy is a stud, he’s a first round pick.
Now if you add Marcus Black Panther Peters to that 2016 team, I will say fuck no, no how no way ever. That would have gone down as the best secondary in UW history. -
Until Miller, Joyner, Murphy do it for a whole season this really is laughable.
2016 was King, SMFJ, Budda, Rapp.
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I think it's possible and I BRBYO all over the 16 secondary. Sr JoJo >>>> So JoJo. Jr Rapp >>>> Fr Rapp. So there's 2/5 that 2018 already has. Murphy has the highest upside of any of them IMO and could match Sr Sidney, and I think Miller could be right there with King. Advantage 2016 but not huge IMO.Doogles said:Unless Rapp goes full Budda, no.
King was a freak, SMFJ was the best DB on the field, Budda was special, and Rapp was a TF.
So it comes down to Budda vs Joyner. Obviously Budda is better but Joyner is really good.
I think the smart money would be on 18 not catching 16, but it's within the realistic realm for 2018 to be better. That's a damn good secondary. The big thing is they need to be healthy. -
No..... 18 secondary has not played.
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Doogs love hypotheticals though.Gwad said:No..... 18 secondary has not played.
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So how are we going to replace Travis and Cory
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Bumped to note who’s not in the 2-deeps.TTJ said:SS McINTOSH McKinney
FS RAPP Gilchrist
NICKEL JOYNER Molden
CB MILLER Taylor
CB MURPHY Gordon -
The 2018 secondary hasn't allowed a completion or any passing yards.
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I already hate it thoughwhatshouldicareabout said:The 2018 secondary hasn't allowed a completion or any passing yards.
