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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,648 Founders Club
    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    Sam Darnold lives for games like this where he can drop his draft stock from 2 overall to 2nd round. It's not about the money for guys like him.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    CHRIST.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,648 Founders Club

    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    CHRIST.
    CHRYST*
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,101
    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    You and OBK are both so fucking stupid I'm 100% convinced you are the same poster.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    I think these guys should turn down the scholarship and find their own way to the NFL

    Oh Baby Boomers....
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    You and OBK are both so fucking stupid I'm 100% convinced you are the same poster.
    I actually graduated from UW though.

    Why don’t you get me a beer you poor community college piece of shit?
    Bro, he played for Ernie Kent.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,648 Founders Club
    Mosster47 said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    You and OBK are both so fucking stupid I'm 100% convinced you are the same poster.
    I actually graduated from UW though.

    Why don’t you get me a beer you poor community college piece of shit?
    Bro, he played for Ernie Kent.
    Speaking of jack duck fags...
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    haie said:

    Mosster47 said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    You and OBK are both so fucking stupid I'm 100% convinced you are the same poster.
    I actually graduated from UW though.

    Why don’t you get me a beer you poor community college piece of shit?
    Bro, he played for Ernie Kent.
    Speaking of jack duck fags...
    You've touched a penis that wasn't yours and it wasn't an accident.
  • BrickSquad
    BrickSquad Member Posts: 1,658
    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    haie said:

    You deserve and will still be shamed for sitting out exhibition games. Darnold has way more on the line than fucking Royce and still took his pounding last night. You should be allowed to do it but the NFL should be allowed to blacklist your ass.

    You and OBK are both so fucking stupid I'm 100% convinced you are the same poster.
    I actually graduated from UW though.

    Why don’t you get me a beer you poor community college piece of shit?
    See you guys at 711
  • BrickSquad
    BrickSquad Member Posts: 1,658
    edited December 2017
    Surprised you graduated from UW and still have that shitty hottake @haie how'd you get into UW? Are your parents alumni and you only got in due to legacy?

    players don't owe the NCAA shit. you probably graduated with a comm degree huh?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,648 Founders Club

    Surprised you graduated from UW and still have that shitty hottake @haie how'd you get into UW? Are your parents alumni and you only got in due to legacy?

    players don't owe the NCAA shit. you probably graduated with a comm degree huh?

    Computer Science. Fuck the NFL
  • RealRhino
    RealRhino Member Posts: 615
    I think it's still an open question how this will all play out. I have to question the mindset of anybody that quits on his teammates, though. Do I want that guy on my team? I don't care much about the commitment he made to his coach or his school or whatever, but with my kids it's always been, you join a team, you are with them until the bitter end. You made a commitment to your teammates. You can quit when the season's over, but not before. If a guy is making business decisions in college, is he going to be making "business decisions" in a playoff game when we are down 14? Fuck that guy.

    Look, even if Okung is right, he's wrong. You factor in the long-term value of a college education, these guys are getting paid the equivalent of MILLIONS of dollars for playing college football. Far more than they'd just get paid to play. And yes, Saquon Barkley and Sam Darnold could get paid for more than just a scholarship, but great guys like JoJo and Bierria and MyTevis would be left without a scholarship.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    RealRhino said:

    I think it's still an open question how this will all play out. I have to question the mindset of anybody that quits on his teammates, though. Do I want that guy on my team? I don't care much about the commitment he made to his coach or his school or whatever, but with my kids it's always been, you join a team, you are with them until the bitter end. You made a commitment to your teammates. You can quit when the season's over, but not before. If a guy is making business decisions in college, is he going to be making "business decisions" in a playoff game when we are down 14? Fuck that guy.

    Look, even if Okung is right, he's wrong. You factor in the long-term value of a college education, these guys are getting paid the equivalent of MILLIONS of dollars for playing college football. Far more than they'd just get paid to play. And yes, Saquon Barkley and Sam Darnold could get paid for more than just a scholarship, but great guys like JoJo and Bierria and MyTevis would be left without a scholarship.

    Hi.

    Let's say you are really good at something, like signing. It has a shelf life, your voice will fade very quickly after age 25.

    You're in a band now, you play small venues and bars. You break even but you're getting good experience.

    A record company asks just you to a deal for millions of dollars but you have to leave the band and join a different one the record company already formed.

    Are you signing for free again? Me neither.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Mosster47 said:

    RealRhino said:

    I think it's still an open question how this will all play out. I have to question the mindset of anybody that quits on his teammates, though. Do I want that guy on my team? I don't care much about the commitment he made to his coach or his school or whatever, but with my kids it's always been, you join a team, you are with them until the bitter end. You made a commitment to your teammates. You can quit when the season's over, but not before. If a guy is making business decisions in college, is he going to be making "business decisions" in a playoff game when we are down 14? Fuck that guy.

    Look, even if Okung is right, he's wrong. You factor in the long-term value of a college education, these guys are getting paid the equivalent of MILLIONS of dollars for playing college football. Far more than they'd just get paid to play. And yes, Saquon Barkley and Sam Darnold could get paid for more than just a scholarship, but great guys like JoJo and Bierria and MyTevis would be left without a scholarship.

    Hi.

    Let's say you are really good at something, like signing. It has a shelf life, your voice will fade very quickly after age 25.

    You're in a band now, you play small venues and bars. You break even but you're getting good experience.

    A record company asks just you to a deal for millions of dollars but you have to leave the band and join a different one the record company already formed.

    Are you signing for free again? Me neither.
    This is a terrific analogy.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    RealRhino said:

    I think it's still an open question how this will all play out. I have to question the mindset of anybody that quits on his teammates, though. Do I want that guy on my team? I don't care much about the commitment he made to his coach or his school or whatever, but with my kids it's always been, you join a team, you are with them until the bitter end. You made a commitment to your teammates. You can quit when the season's over, but not before. If a guy is making business decisions in college, is he going to be making "business decisions" in a playoff game when we are down 14? Fuck that guy.

    Look, even if Okung is right, he's wrong. You factor in the long-term value of a college education, these guys are getting paid the equivalent of MILLIONS of dollars for playing college football. Far more than they'd just get paid to play. And yes, Saquon Barkley and Sam Darnold could get paid for more than just a scholarship, but great guys like JoJo and Bierria and MyTevis would be left without a scholarship.

    Mike Leach will make more by himself next season than all 85 of his players will in scholarships.

    Do some research next time.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,663 Founders Club
    No player is forced to accept that scholarship.

    No school is going to make football players employees

    Title 9 won't let you just pay football players.

    Noting that school costs more now than for boomers hurts your own argument. That 4 years is a tremendous value compared to all the idiots with a ton of debt for the same education.

    But by all means just keep whining and crying and maybe someday you can end college football all together

    Or just watch the NFL and shut the fuck up already
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    No player is forced to accept that scholarship.

    No school is going to make football players employees

    Title 9 won't let you just pay football players.

    Noting that school costs more now than for boomers hurts your own argument. That 4 years is a tremendous value compared to all the idiots with a ton of debt for the same education.

    But by all means just keep whining and crying and maybe someday you can end college football all together

    Or just watch the NFL and shut the fuck up already

    Or the NCAA could just allow players to earn whatever outside compensation they want.

    Please tell me how that ends college football altogether.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,663 Founders Club
    How do you administer it? Barkley can make 100 grand for his likeness but his anonymous O line won't get shit?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    How do you administer it? Barkley can make 100 grand for his likeness but his anonymous O line won't get shit?

    You don't administer it at all.

    Let the free market decide.

    The QBs probably get paid more than the anonymous OL just like they do now.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,663 Founders Club
    So as usual you haven't thought this through
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    So as usual you haven't thought this through

    Neither have you apparently.

    Still waiting for you to tell me how this kills college football.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,663 Founders Club
    Now you moved the goal posts to outside income it may only destroy the locker room
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Now you moved the goal posts to outside income it may only destroy the locker room

    It doesn't destroy locker rooms now.

    No one at Auburn cared when Cam got paid and no one at Washington cared when Billy Joe got paid.

    I would prefer legitimate salaries but Title IX blows.