Leech is the best .500 coach in WSU's history

So is it possible that the pirate is a sub .500 coach (in the future) without Grinch as his DC?
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Take out FCS teams, the Apple Cup, and Bowl games and he is unstoppable!
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CuntWaffle is Stewart Mandel????????
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5 year plan to lose the Holiday Bowl successful.
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He was so successful at it he did it again in year six.Swaye said:5 year plan to lose the Holiday Bowl successful.
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Grinch is an internet myth. His D just gave up 42 points. His D gave up 45 in the Apple Cup and fucking Arizona dropped 58 on Cuog.EwaDawg said:38 - 38 after six years. Although, the past three years >>>>>>>>>>his first three years.
So is it possible that the pirate is a sub .500 coach (in the future) without Grinch as his DC?
It's not hard to have the linemen stem and blitz every down. That's EASports NCAA2K shit.
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Nobody, in this thread, claimed that Grinch was anything special. Just an upgrade over the previous WSU DCs (under Leach).PurpleThrobber said:
Grinch is an internet myth. His D just gave up 42 points. His D gave up 45 in the Apple Cup and fucking Arizona dropped 58 on Cuog.EwaDawg said:38 - 38 after six years. Although, the past three years >>>>>>>>>>his first three years.
So is it possible that the pirate is a sub .500 coach (in the future) without Grinch as his DC?
It's not hard to have the linemen stem and blitz every down. That's EASports NCAA2K shit.
WSU, under Leach, allowed 35 pts/game from 2012 to 2014. With Grinch they allowed under 27 pts/game.
WSU allowed 335 points in 2017. They haven't allowed fewer, in a season, since 2006. (insert Wilcox is better than Holt here.) So, indeed, context matters.
The question asked was will WSU revert to the mean (which is sub .500)?
Thanks for the tangential response. I'll mark it down as a no. And, btw, I agree.
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Cuogs at each other’s throats today. Almost looks like a civil war is going to ensue. Rational cougs point out that Leach shits his pants at 4 million a year. Others are pulling the “do you want to go back to the Doba/Wulff Years?!?!?!” like doogs did with Sark about Ty and Gilby.
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In all seriousness, Cuog probably can't do much better than Pirate. They aren't a tier 1 or tier 2 program. More like tier 5. Pirate can win 8-10 games a year sometimes and get them into the top 20 at some point during the season every couple years. Then lose a mid tier bowl. That's as good as it's going to get for sodbusters. Gotta know your limits as losers.
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There was a poster on Cougfarm that wanted tOSU to reconsider the Grinch hire (after yesterday's blowout).Swaye said:Gotta know your limits as losers.
CUOG knows no limits.
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I kind of agree and I don’t. Pirate will be making 4 millions a year next year. He will NEVER win a meaningful game at WSU. Probably one of the worst motivators in college football. It will be a bunch of empty 7-9 win seasons with plungers in the Apple Cup and Bowl Games. I feel like for that kind of penny WSU could find someone that brings a bit more consistency and toughness.Swaye said:In all seriousness, Cuog probably can't do much better than Pirate. They aren't a tier 1 or tier 2 program. More like tier 5. Pirate can win 8-10 games a year sometimes and get them into the top 20 at some point during the season every couple years. Then lose a mid tier bowl. That's as good as it's going to get for sodbusters. Gotta know your limits as losers.
Probably not though. But still. -
Those are the same fuckwads that thinks Bull Moose shit magic cash unicorns and without his magic nothing would have been built in PullmanCuntWaffle said:Cuogs at each other’s throats today. Almost looks like a civil war is going to ensue. Rational cougs point out that Leach shits his pants at 4 million a year. Others are pulling the “do you want to go back to the Doba/Wulff Years?!?!?!” like doogs did with Sark about Ty and Gilby.
The ones who think Leach can do no wrong are getting really sarcastically chippy too.
$20million annual deficits not withstanding.
Any decent coach could go .500 in Pullman. 90 year old Bill Doba did it. Paul Wulff picked his nose and shit his pants. He was not a decent football coach.
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Not counting QB scrambles, WSU had 50 passes and 3 runs last night. Smith would literally have been lit on fire if he did something like that.
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and where is Paul Wulff you ask?
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Seriously. Just wait til Hilinski gets his reads down.UWhuskytskeet said:Not counting QB scrambles, WSU had 50 passes and 3 runs last night. Smith would literally have been lit on fire if he did something like that.
I saw the halftime stats and couldn't believe how much WSU was slinging it.
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All fair poonts, but you need to add the “who the fuck would voluntarily move to Pullman” factor.CuntWaffle said:
I kind of agree and I don’t. Pirate will be making 4 millions a year next year. He will NEVER win a meaningful game at WSU. Probably one of the worst motivators in college football. It will be a bunch of empty 7-9 win seasons with plungers in the Apple Cup and Bowl Games. I feel like for that kind of penny WSU could find someone that brings a bit more consistency and toughness.Swaye said:In all seriousness, Cuog probably can't do much better than Pirate. They aren't a tier 1 or tier 2 program. More like tier 5. Pirate can win 8-10 games a year sometimes and get them into the top 20 at some point during the season every couple years. Then lose a mid tier bowl. That's as good as it's going to get for sodbusters. Gotta know your limits as losers.
Probably not though. But still.
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That’s kinda the going rate in Power 5 Football. But I’m all ears on who you believe could bring good Lineman to Pullman consistently.CuntWaffle said:
I feel like for that kind of penny WSU could find someone that brings a bit more consistency and toughness.Swaye said:In all seriousness, Cuog probably can't do much better than Pirate. They aren't a tier 1 or tier 2 program. More like tier 5. Pirate can win 8-10 games a year sometimes and get them into the top 20 at some point during the season every couple years. Then lose a mid tier bowl. That's as good as it's going to get for sodbusters. Gotta know your limits as losers.
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Part of his issue is The Hammer who signed up to coach across the state from Pullman. If we still had Sark Leach would be pulling the occasional Apple Cup win combined with close losses. All of Pullman would be licking Leach's sack as long as he was there.
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Beau Baldwin would equal Leach’s success, initially, at half the price, win Bowl games and likely stay if he’s eventually compensated proportionally to where Leach is now when larger, richer programs come calling.Swaye said:In all seriousness, Cuog probably can't do much better than Pirate. They aren't a tier 1 or tier 2 program. More like tier 5. Pirate can win 8-10 games a year sometimes and get them into the top 20 at some point during the season every couple years. Then lose a mid tier bowl. That's as good as it's going to get for sodbusters. Gotta know your limits as losers.
Leach’s antics limit his market. Coug will put up with his shtick because he delivers 8-9 wins along with mid level Bowl invites. -
That is... Wow.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:and where is Paul Wulff you ask?
O line and RB coach at CS-Sacramento....