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Dennis_DeYoung
Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
in The Fisching Hole (Recruiting)
So - I'm going to hold off really posting about this class until Kyler decides. At this point I have every reason to believe he's coming to Washington, but it's not final until it's on vinyl as they say and it's not on vinyl yet.

One interesting thing going on right now is a discussion of numbers. Especially after Pete's presser yesterday, it sounded a bit like we are expecting some more guys to leave.

At present, if two of our guys enter early (Vita, Gaskin, Greg, Kaleb), we are currently full given that we take Eason and Kyler. However, given what Pete said and our roster, I expect we might add 3-4 more dudes, depending.

Here are our numbers for next year (without Vita and Gaskin; adding in Eason and Gordon) and I'll bold the guys I think are in line for couch sales. I also have listed next to the numbers, the average amount of scholarships per starter (i.e., we have 4 RBs and generally start 1, so that's a 4; I listed WR as 2.5 and TE as 1.5 starters to make it make sense).

QB (6; 6): Browning, DBG, Eason, Haener, Yankoff, Sirmon
RB (4; 4): Ahmed, Pleasant, McGrew, Newton
WR (12; 4.8): Dickey, Baccelia, Fuller, McClatcher, Pounds, Chin, Jones, Bynum, Cook, Lowe, Osborne, Spiker
TE (7; 3.5): Sample, Neal, Bryant, Kizer, Warren (H-Back), Otton, Culp
OT (6; 3): Adams, McGary, Burleson, Hilbers, Kirkland, Mele
OG (6; 3): Sosebee, Roberts, Wattenburg, Bainivalu, Ale, Curne
C (3; 3): James, Harris, Norgy

DT (10; 5): Bowman, Gaines, Johnson, McCoy, Scrempos, Onwuzrike, Bynum, Liu, Taimani, ZTF
BUCK (4; 4): Potoa'e, Rice, Bowman, Tryon
SAM (4; 4): Bartlett, Williams, Ngata, Kaho
MIK (4; 4): Beavers, Manu, Eifler, Sirmon
WIL (3; 3): BBK, Wellington, Tafisi
CB (9; 3): Miller, Dotson, Bryant, Joyner, Murphy, Molden, Taylor, Gordon, Hampton
S (5; 2.5): McIntosh, Rapp, Gilchrist, Love, McKinney

P/K (2): Whitford, Soderberg

That is 85 right there. With 9 guys who could sell couches.

As such, I think it's going to be pretty plain that we have room to play with in January.

So from looking here the scholarship per starters numbers organize like this:
QB - 6
DT - 5
WR - 4.8
OLB - 4
ILB - 3.5
TE - 3.5
CB - 3
OL - 3
S - 2.5

So, where do you think we might look in the Jan period?

One is obvious to me: S.

Outside of that, I could see us trying to add special guys at DT, BUCK, ILB and OL.

Who would be the guys?

S - This is tough. Irvin is the only decent player left and he's going to USC unless there's a miracle.
DT - Again, it's kind of hard to tell right now who we would go after, but if we could get a guy who could play immediately we would.
BUCK - Jeremiah Martin is obviously the big target here. I think he could start next year, basically.
ILB - I think this is a lower priority, but I expect us to push for Tuliaupupu who would not redshirt (Sirmon and Tafisi will).
OL - This is, again, hard to completely tell who we will be after, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got in on someone.

I will be twitter stalking all weekend to try to understand this. Add your thoughts below!
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,207 Founders Club
    but it's not final until it's on vinyl as they say and it's not on vinyl yet.

    Free Pub!!!
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  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    What about the dude from Temple
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    I’d add Soderberg as a couch seller with some mysterious leg injury leading to a medical retirement ...

    I wouldn’t close the door on us finding a grad transfer or two
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    WilburHooksHands said:

    What about the dude from Temple

    I think he's walking on
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  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    WilburHooksHands said:

    What about the dude from Temple

    Bronson is not on scholarship, but he might end up so.

    Pete might reserve a spot for a walk-on
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Edwin_Bambino said:

    You really think Sosebee could sell the couch? He lost playing time late in the year but he still started 8 games and played in 12. I think he will stick around. I’m not a fan of his but I don’t mind the depth he provides as an experienced backup.

    He needs to get down to 300 pounds and improve his footwork. He might be decent back up. I hope Kaleb comebacks. He has the most to gain in terms of draft status next year.
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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266
    Are we? Really not trying to get a kicker?
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited December 2017
    A few thoughts/questions:
    - Where is Justiss Warren?
    - Do we have a realistic shot at Jeremiah Martin (the photo with Kawasaki and Bhonapa...yeesh)?
    - Some of the guys you put in bold are likely on the Jeff Lindquist plan (i.e., might as well just ride it out).
    - ONE MORE: Eason? Really?

    Thanks for putting this together.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    WeakarmCobra said:

    Edwin_Bambino said:

    You really think Sosebee could sell the couch? He lost playing time late in the year but he still started 8 games and played in 12. I think he will stick around. I’m not a fan of his but I don’t mind the depth he provides as an experienced backup.

    He needs to get down to 300 pounds and improve his footwork. He might be decent back up. I hope Kaleb comebacks. He has the most to gain in terms of draft status next year.
    I wouldn't be shocked by a grad transfer with Sosebee, though I think it's more likely from James. It's hard to know exactly what the feeling is like in the OL group, but I've heard Huff wants to take 4 this year and it wouldn't surprise me if a guy like Sosebee weren't really attractive to a school like Montana State. He could go and start from the get-go. Next year, I think our Gs are going to be Wattenberg and Bainivalu. We shall see.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club
    Hilbers sucks ass. Too bad we haven't recruited enough bodies to cut him loose as well.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Passion said:

    A few thoughts/questions:
    - Where is Justiss Warren?
    - Do we have a realistic shot at Jeremiah Martin (the photo with Kawasaki and Bhonapa...yeesh)?
    - Some of the guys you put in bold are likely on the Jeff Lindquist plan (i.e., might as well just ride it out).

    Thanks for putting this together.

    Warren is listed at TE or H-Back. I think he stays and plays there. He looked good pushing people out of the way.

    Do we have a realistic shot at Martin? Well - I don't think so. But I think we are finishing 2-5 on big fish and I thought we would go 0-5. So, that's a thing.

    After Friday, when signing period closes, I will have something much more comprehensive on who is still available and who we might be after.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    dhdawg said:

    WilburHooksHands said:

    What about the dude from Temple

    I think he's walking on
    He is ... I expect he will get a scholly at some point
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    Oh and @Passion - yes really on Eason.

    Also - have heard some rumors that USC will have staff shake-up (I think we will, too) after the bowl. This may be why their DL recruits haven't signed.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    So - I'm going to hold off really posting about this class until Kyler decides. At this point I have every reason to believe he's coming to Washington, but it's not final until it's on vinyl as they say and it's not on vinyl yet.

    One interesting thing going on right now is a discussion of numbers. Especially after Pete's presser yesterday, it sounded a bit like we are expecting some more guys to leave.

    At present, if two of our guys enter early (Vita, Gaskin, Greg, Kaleb), we are currently full given that we take Eason and Kyler. However, given what Pete said and our roster, I expect we might add 3-4 more dudes, depending.

    Here are our numbers for next year (without Vita and Gaskin; adding in Eason and Gordon) and I'll bold the guys I think are in line for couch sales. I also have listed next to the numbers, the average amount of scholarships per starter (i.e., we have 4 RBs and generally start 1, so that's a 4; I listed WR as 2.5 and TE as 1.5 starters to make it make sense).

    QB (6; 6): Browning, DBG, Eason, Haener, Yankoff, Sirmon
    RB (4; 4): Ahmed, Pleasant, McGrew, Newton
    WR (12; 4.8): Dickey, Baccelia, Fuller, McClatcher, Pounds, Chin, Jones, Bynum, Cook, Lowe, Osborne, Spiker
    TE (7; 3.5): Sample, Neal, Bryant, Kizer, Warren (H-Back), Otton, Culp
    OT (6; 3): Adams, McGary, Burleson, Hilbers, Kirkland, Mele
    OG (6; 3): Sosebee, Roberts, Wattenburg, Bainivalu, Ale, Curne
    C (3; 3): James, Harris, Norgy

    DT (10; 5): Bowman, Gaines, Johnson, McCoy, Scrempos, Onwuzrike, Bynum, Liu, Taimani, ZTF
    BUCK (4; 4): Potoa'e, Rice, Bowman, Tryon
    SAM (4; 4): Bartlett, Williams, Ngata, Kaho
    MIK (4; 4): Beavers, Manu, Eifler, Sirmon
    WIL (3; 3): BBK, Wellington, Tafisi
    CB (9; 3): Miller, Dotson, Bryant, Joyner, Murphy, Molden, Taylor, Gordon, Hampton
    S (5; 2.5): McIntosh, Rapp, Gilchrist, Love, McKinney

    P/K (2): Whitford, Soderberg

    That is 85 right there. With 9 guys who could sell couches.

    As such, I think it's going to be pretty plain that we have room to play with in January.

    So from looking here the scholarship per starters numbers organize like this:
    QB - 6
    DT - 5
    WR - 4.8
    OLB - 4
    ILB - 3.5
    TE - 3.5
    CB - 3
    OL - 3
    S - 2.5

    So, where do you think we might look in the Jan period?

    One is obvious to me: S.

    Outside of that, I could see us trying to add special guys at DT, BUCK, ILB and OL.

    Who would be the guys?

    S - This is tough. Irvin is the only decent player left and he's going to USC unless there's a miracle.
    DT - Again, it's kind of hard to tell right now who we would go after, but if we could get a guy who could play immediately we would.
    BUCK - Jeremiah Martin is obviously the big target here. I think he could start next year, basically.
    ILB - I think this is a lower priority, but I expect us to push for Tuliaupupu who would not redshirt (Sirmon and Tafisi will).
    OL - This is, again, hard to completely tell who we will be after, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got in on someone.

    I will be twitter stalking all weekend to try to understand this. Add your thoughts below!

    This list is worthless without Eifler.

    I'm hearing he's a real disappointment and needs to LEAVE.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited December 2017
    dnc said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    So - I'm going to hold off really posting about this class until Kyler decides. At this point I have every reason to believe he's coming to Washington, but it's not final until it's on vinyl as they say and it's not on vinyl yet.

    One interesting thing going on right now is a discussion of numbers. Especially after Pete's presser yesterday, it sounded a bit like we are expecting some more guys to leave.

    At present, if two of our guys enter early (Vita, Gaskin, Greg, Kaleb), we are currently full given that we take Eason and Kyler. However, given what Pete said and our roster, I expect we might add 3-4 more dudes, depending.

    Here are our numbers for next year (without Vita and Gaskin; adding in Eason and Gordon) and I'll bold the guys I think are in line for couch sales. I also have listed next to the numbers, the average amount of scholarships per starter (i.e., we have 4 RBs and generally start 1, so that's a 4; I listed WR as 2.5 and TE as 1.5 starters to make it make sense).

    QB (6; 6): Browning, DBG, Eason, Haener, Yankoff, Sirmon
    RB (4; 4): Ahmed, Pleasant, McGrew, Newton
    WR (12; 4.8): Dickey, Baccelia, Fuller, McClatcher, Pounds, Chin, Jones, Bynum, Cook, Lowe, Osborne, Spiker
    TE (7; 3.5): Sample, Neal, Bryant, Kizer, Warren (H-Back), Otton, Culp
    OT (6; 3): Adams, McGary, Burleson, Hilbers, Kirkland, Mele
    OG (6; 3): Sosebee, Roberts, Wattenburg, Bainivalu, Ale, Curne
    C (3; 3): James, Harris, Norgy

    DT (10; 5): Bowman, Gaines, Johnson, McCoy, Scrempos, Onwuzrike, Bynum, Liu, Taimani, ZTF
    BUCK (4; 4): Potoa'e, Rice, Bowman, Tryon
    SAM (4; 4): Bartlett, Williams, Ngata, Kaho
    MIK (4; 4): Beavers, Manu, Eifler, Sirmon
    WIL (3; 3): BBK, Wellington, Tafisi
    CB (9; 3): Miller, Dotson, Bryant, Joyner, Murphy, Molden, Taylor, Gordon, Hampton
    S (5; 2.5): McIntosh, Rapp, Gilchrist, Love, McKinney

    P/K (2): Whitford, Soderberg

    That is 85 right there. With 9 guys who could sell couches.

    As such, I think it's going to be pretty plain that we have room to play with in January.

    So from looking here the scholarship per starters numbers organize like this:
    QB - 6
    DT - 5
    WR - 4.8
    OLB - 4
    ILB - 3.5
    TE - 3.5
    CB - 3
    OL - 3
    S - 2.5

    So, where do you think we might look in the Jan period?

    One is obvious to me: S.

    Outside of that, I could see us trying to add special guys at DT, BUCK, ILB and OL.

    Who would be the guys?

    S - This is tough. Irvin is the only decent player left and he's going to USC unless there's a miracle.
    DT - Again, it's kind of hard to tell right now who we would go after, but if we could get a guy who could play immediately we would.
    BUCK - Jeremiah Martin is obviously the big target here. I think he could start next year, basically.
    ILB - I think this is a lower priority, but I expect us to push for Tuliaupupu who would not redshirt (Sirmon and Tafisi will).
    OL - This is, again, hard to completely tell who we will be after, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got in on someone.

    I will be twitter stalking all weekend to try to understand this. Add your thoughts below!

    This list is worthless without Eifler.

    I'm hearing he's a real disappointment and needs to LEAVE.
    I heard your mom has a ginormous hairy wiener.
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  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176
    Passion said:

    dnc said:

    Passion said:

    dnc said:

    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    So - I'm going to hold off really posting about this class until Kyler decides. At this point I have every reason to believe he's coming to Washington, but it's not final until it's on vinyl as they say and it's not on vinyl yet.

    One interesting thing going on right now is a discussion of numbers. Especially after Pete's presser yesterday, it sounded a bit like we are expecting some more guys to leave.

    At present, if two of our guys enter early (Vita, Gaskin, Greg, Kaleb), we are currently full given that we take Eason and Kyler. However, given what Pete said and our roster, I expect we might add 3-4 more dudes, depending.

    Here are our numbers for next year (without Vita and Gaskin; adding in Eason and Gordon) and I'll bold the guys I think are in line for couch sales. I also have listed next to the numbers, the average amount of scholarships per starter (i.e., we have 4 RBs and generally start 1, so that's a 4; I listed WR as 2.5 and TE as 1.5 starters to make it make sense).

    QB (6; 6): Browning, DBG, Eason, Haener, Yankoff, Sirmon
    RB (4; 4): Ahmed, Pleasant, McGrew, Newton
    WR (12; 4.8): Dickey, Baccelia, Fuller, McClatcher, Pounds, Chin, Jones, Bynum, Cook, Lowe, Osborne, Spiker
    TE (7; 3.5): Sample, Neal, Bryant, Kizer, Warren (H-Back), Otton, Culp
    OT (6; 3): Adams, McGary, Burleson, Hilbers, Kirkland, Mele
    OG (6; 3): Sosebee, Roberts, Wattenburg, Bainivalu, Ale, Curne
    C (3; 3): James, Harris, Norgy

    DT (10; 5): Bowman, Gaines, Johnson, McCoy, Scrempos, Onwuzrike, Bynum, Liu, Taimani, ZTF
    BUCK (4; 4): Potoa'e, Rice, Bowman, Tryon
    SAM (4; 4): Bartlett, Williams, Ngata, Kaho
    MIK (4; 4): Beavers, Manu, Eifler, Sirmon
    WIL (3; 3): BBK, Wellington, Tafisi
    CB (9; 3): Miller, Dotson, Bryant, Joyner, Murphy, Molden, Taylor, Gordon, Hampton
    S (5; 2.5): McIntosh, Rapp, Gilchrist, Love, McKinney

    P/K (2): Whitford, Soderberg

    That is 85 right there. With 9 guys who could sell couches.

    As such, I think it's going to be pretty plain that we have room to play with in January.

    So from looking here the scholarship per starters numbers organize like this:
    QB - 6
    DT - 5
    WR - 4.8
    OLB - 4
    ILB - 3.5
    TE - 3.5
    CB - 3
    OL - 3
    S - 2.5

    So, where do you think we might look in the Jan period?

    One is obvious to me: S.

    Outside of that, I could see us trying to add special guys at DT, BUCK, ILB and OL.

    Who would be the guys?

    S - This is tough. Irvin is the only decent player left and he's going to USC unless there's a miracle.
    DT - Again, it's kind of hard to tell right now who we would go after, but if we could get a guy who could play immediately we would.
    BUCK - Jeremiah Martin is obviously the big target here. I think he could start next year, basically.
    ILB - I think this is a lower priority, but I expect us to push for Tuliaupupu who would not redshirt (Sirmon and Tafisi will).
    OL - This is, again, hard to completely tell who we will be after, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got in on someone.

    I will be twitter stalking all weekend to try to understand this. Add your thoughts below!

    This list is worthless without Eifler.

    I'm hearing he's a real disappointment and needs to LEAVE.
    I heard your mom has a ginormous hairy weiner.
    I heard you're into that sort of thing
    Well, not as much since I got parole.
    BBC?
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Passion getting shredded in this thread
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Only Swaye gets the dark side of my humor...perhaps that says something about me.
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