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Trump to move US embassy to Jerusalem
oregonblitzkrieg
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Fuck the Palestinians and the fake peace process. Nice to finally have a president who understands who is the ally and who is the enemy.
bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42250399
bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42250399
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Or a president who makes rash decisions and doesn't look at the ramifications of his actions. There's a reason why no president, Republican or Democrat, has done this.
That being said, WGAF where the embassy is. You are cheering something you don't know anything about either. -
There is a reason why no president has done this before. They were little more than cowardly pussies.
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What ramifications?
Will the Arabs now hate Israel and threaten to kill them all and throw them into the sea even more than they have hated Israel and threatened to kill them all and throw them into the sea for the last 60+ years? -
Right. OBK knows what's best for Israel and the placement of the embassy.
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I'm good with anything that pisses off and negatively affects the Arab swine that cheered on 9/11. These were Obama's friends. Trump sees them for what they really are.
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NOC
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Those silly dems can't make up their mind. It's OK unless it's a republican!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/06/dems-blast-trump-for-jerusalem-decision-despite-past-support.html -
Hillary was for it in 1999 hondo so you can be too
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I'm still waiting to hear the reasoning why this is bad policy or why hondo knows whats better for Isreal than the Israelis do
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I like the decision and support it and Israel.
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The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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2 Choices. Extermination of one side or the other,or a 2-State solution. Or Israel and Palestine will just continue to live in an uneasy state with uprisings occurring every year or 2 with resentment growing stronger through each generation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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I am all in with regard to Israeli military action.salemcoog said:
2 Choices. Extermination of one side or the other,or a 2-State solution. Or Israel and Palestine will just continue to live in an uneasy state with uprisings occurring every year or 2 with resentment growing stronger through each generation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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YKWPurpleThrobber said:
I am all in with regard to Israeli military action.salemcoog said:
2 Choices. Extermination of one side or the other,or a 2-State solution. Or Israel and Palestine will just continue to live in an uneasy state with uprisings occurring every year or 2 with resentment growing stronger through each generation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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Jew tits best tits
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Regardless.RaceBannon said:Hillary was for it in 1999 hondo so you can be too
Even Tillerson shit bricks over this one. Say what you will about Rex, I actually think he's a solid choice for his spot given that he has a lot of experience in the Middle East. Tillerson is nobody's pushover, but he "gets it" over there. Word from my circles are that he actually looked at Trump and asked him, "So what was the point of this?"
I'm nobody's liberal, come what may; and I myself laff at the daily obsession that the left has with the current Prez and every single solitary move he makes. But this one was fs ... and if Hillary wanted to do it in 1999, Race, then she was fs and I severely overestimated her.
The current administration won the WH with absolutely brilliant political strategy. Stipulated. But they're playing with fire, because so much of their base, which does not include this man's Republican party, are legitimately and simply uninformed people. One example of that is this fantasy (held by half my family btw) that we're someday going to go in clean house in the greater middle east. The real, cold, troubling, reality is that that will never happen. It is an untenable problem.
So, back to this. Netanyahu has a really tuff job. He is, by necessity, a hard liner, because when you're surrounded by people who want to end you, that's what you gotta be. There is, though, a really fine line that has to be drawn between what and how much of his shit we should or should not be pulled into. Netanyahu would love nothing more for us to cranky up aggression toward Israel's enemies. Doesn't mean we should.
So, I go back to Tillerson's alleged question: what in Hades was he doing, and why? What did it get us? More warm and fuzzies with Israel? Seriously? What choice does Netanyahu have but to stay nice with the US. We're all he has.
Honestly, I could legitimately sit here and listen to opposing views and arguments on the tax bill all day long. But the two areas where Donnie and I are at fundamental odds are his obsessions with immigration and brown people, and this thing he just did. Oh, and any even implied support for Moore. I don't know how much he legitimately is trying to help him, but base or no base, he should back away from Moore, who is a bad guy.
So like Tillerson, I ask: why? What, if anything, did it get us? -
This my brother Kewg, except that I don't think the resentment grows with each generation. The further away from the original sin you get, the less people give a shit and the more focused they become on living their lives. Palestine would benefit from a higher standard of living. Figure that out, and the rest of this shit goes away organically over time. At least that would be my bet.salemcoog said:
2 Choices. Extermination of one side or the other,or a 2-State solution. Or Israel and Palestine will just continue to live in an uneasy state with uprisings occurring every year or 2 with resentment growing stronger through each generation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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I know. That's because you're stupid.oregonblitzkrieg said:I'm good with anything that pisses off and negatively affects the Arab swine that cheered on 9/11. These were Obama's friends. Trump sees them for what they really are.
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The original offense, the one arabs will never get over, is that they are sons of a whore, the descendants of a prostitute, and the jews, their half brothers, are not. Stupid fuck. Do you think arab anger has resided over the past several millenia? They've always been hotheaded dumbass pricks, and always will be.creepycoug said:
This my brother Kewg, except that I don't think the resentment grows with each generation. The further away from the original sin you get, the less people give a shit and the more focused they become on living their lives. Palestine would benefit from a higher standard of living. Figure that out, and the rest of this shit goes away organically over time. At least that would be my bet.salemcoog said:
2 Choices. Extermination of one side or the other,or a 2-State solution. Or Israel and Palestine will just continue to live in an uneasy state with uprisings occurring every year or 2 with resentment growing stronger through each generation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
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TL;DRcreepycoug said:
Regardless.RaceBannon said:Hillary was for it in 1999 hondo so you can be too
Even Tillerson shit bricks over this one. Say what you will about Rex, I actually think he's a solid choice for his spot given that he has a lot of experience in the Middle East. Tillerson is nobody's pushover, but he "gets it" over there. Word from my circles are that he actually looked at Trump and asked him, "So what was the point of this?"
I'm nobody's liberal, come what may; and I myself laff at the daily obsession that the left has with the current Prez and every single solitary move he makes. But this one was fs ... and if Hillary wanted to do it in 1999, Race, then she was fs and I severely overestimated her.
The current administration won the WH with absolutely brilliant political strategy. Stipulated. But they're playing with fire, because so much of their base, which does not include this man's Republican party, are legitimately and simply uninformed people. One example of that is this fantasy (held by half my family btw) that we're someday going to go in clean house in the greater middle east. The real, cold, troubling, reality is that that will never happen. It is an untenable problem.
So, back to this. Netanyahu has a really tuff job. He is, by necessity, a hard liner, because when you're surrounded by people who want to end you, that's what you gotta be. There is, though, a really fine line that has to be drawn between what and how much of his shit we should or should not be pulled into. Netanyahu would love nothing more for us to cranky up aggression toward Israel's enemies. Doesn't mean we should.
So, I go back to Tillerson's alleged question: what in Hades was he doing, and why? What did it get us? More warm and fuzzies with Israel? Seriously? What choice does Netanyahu have but to stay nice with the US. We're all he has.
Honestly, I could legitimately sit here and listen to opposing views and arguments on the tax bill all day long. But the two areas where Donnie and I are at fundamental odds are his obsessions with immigration and brown people, and this thing he just did. Oh, and any even implied support for Moore. I don't know how much he legitimately is trying to help him, but base or no base, he should back away from Moore, who is a bad guy.
So like Tillerson, I ask: why? What, if anything, did it get us?
I actually agree with the Hurricoug here. When I watched Trumps announcement I wondered out loud what the fuck does he gain by this? What is the point other than stirring up a hornet's nest?
Further, he looked off when he made the announcement. A little guilty even, like he knew he was stepping into a world of shit, and he knew he shouldn't but what the fuck?
And if someone wants to intelligently participate in this conversation, do yourself a favor and read The Lemon Tree - By Sven Thorson (or Sandy Tolan). Widely regarded by both sides as an accurate and fair history of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. -
Do I think Arab anger has resided? Gee, I don't know ... what that even means.oregonblitzkrieg said:
The original offense, the one arabs will never get over, is that they are sons of a whore, the descendants of a prostitute, and the jews, their half brothers, are not. Stupid fuck. Do you think arab anger has resided over the past several millenia? They've always been hotheaded dumbass pricks, and always will be.creepycoug said:
This my brother Kewg, except that I don't think the resentment grows with each generation. The further away from the original sin you get, the less people give a shit and the more focused they become on living their lives. Palestine would benefit from a higher standard of living. Figure that out, and the rest of this shit goes away organically over time. At least that would be my bet.salemcoog said:
2 Choices. Extermination of one side or the other,or a 2-State solution. Or Israel and Palestine will just continue to live in an uneasy state with uprisings occurring every year or 2 with resentment growing stronger through each generation.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sure they can have their own state... if they carve it out of Saudi Arabia or some other islamofuck country where they would better belong. Why should the geographically tiny state of Israel be forced to cede land to an intractable enemy that will never acknowledge their right to exist? Two state solution is a non-starter.salemcoog said:The terrorists can have their own state. It just won't include Jerusalem. First step in the real peace process.
You seem pretty hotheaded yourself. Do you have any of that fairy tale whore DNA in you too by chance?
See post 4,531. Weirdo. -
People keep talking about kicking a hornet's nest as if this is really going to provoke them and we better watch out. Who gives a fuck if those cunts are provoked. They get provoked over cartoons of Muhammed. We can't avoid kicking the hornet's nest, so we might as well kick it as hard as we can. Putting the embassy in Jerusalem is giving the Palestinians the middle finger. They cheered in the streets during 9/11. It's time for some payback.
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Tits are so hot i didn't even notice the purple eyesSwaye said:Enuff with the politics bullshit. More jew titties!
