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Swaye
Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
Lifted from the Boston Herald. Bolded parts amused me. YMMV. She is a complete POS. It appears her family are well known Indian killers, but not so much Indians. This cunt should just fuck off. You either have a tribal card or you don't. It's really that simple. Bitch.

How much longer do we have to pretend that Elizabeth Warren is anything but a Fake Indian?

It happened again yesterday — President Trump referred to the senior senator from Massachusetts as “Pocahontas,” and the alt-left media went into paroxysms of fake outrage, as if it’s somehow “racism” to call out a fraud like the Fake Indian.

Isn’t the left supposed to despise “cultural appropriation?” What greater cultural appropriation could there be than for Elizabeth Warren to have falsely claimed an ethnic heritage in order to win not one, but two tenured Ivy League law professorships she had absolutely no shot of ever getting until she checked the box?

All of the alt-left pajama boys and trust-funders who were hyperventilating about this yesterday, let me ask you a question:


How come Pocahontas won’t take a DNA test so that we can find out, once and for all, how much Indian blood she really has, if any? Why has she refused my multiple generous offers to pay for her DNA test?

We know she has no card from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, because if she had one, we would have damn well seen it five years ago, when the questions were first raised.

Here’s some other stuff we know:

The New England Historic Genealogical Society can find zero — repeat, zero — evidence of any Native American “ancestors.” We do know that one of her forebears was in the Tennessee militia that forced the Cherokee west toward Oklahoma, and that another ancestor shot a drunken Native American off a horse in the Indian Territory at the turn of the 20th century.

Yes, she once contributed to a Cherokee cookbook called Pow Wow Chow — a haute-cuisine French recipe she lifted from a New York Times cookbook by a chef named Pierre Franey. Apparently cold crab omelet was a very popular dish along the Trail of Tears.

Since all this came out, during the 2012 Senate campaign, the Fake Indian calls herself an Indian about as often as she brags about providing the “intellectual foundations” of the Occupy movement, which is to say, never.

Nowadays she claims she’s “Okie down to her toes.”

Yet, some of the most despicable hacks in Washington are always willing to go on the warpath whenever the president calls her out. In February, it was Sen. Al Franken blasting the president as a “racist” for deriding the Fake Indian as Pocahontas. If Al Franken is defending you … .

But wait, there’s more. Two weeks ago, just days before his own outing as a serial Democrat sexual predator, U.S. Rep. John Conyers mentioned a tweet the president had sent out about “Pocahontas.”
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:
    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT
    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:
    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT
    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.



    She won't disavow her early 90's fraud. Genealogical societies cannot find any proof that links her to Injuns. She's a fraud, though I get what you are saying about lore and legends. All kinds of families say this shit, which is why there are Indian rolls, and tribal ID cards. If you don't have that, you aren't injun. If you think you are, prove it and join the tribe. She did neither, ever, because she can't.

    Warren is a bit of an academic grifter. She’s willing to fake her way to the top. When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454121/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud

    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    But what do I know, I still hate Jane Fonda.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,026 Founders Club
    Nuff said on that
    Swaye said:

    Lifted from the Boston Herald. Bolded parts amused me. YMMV. She is a complete POS. It appears her family are well known Indian killers, but not so much Indians. This cunt should just fuck off. You either have a tribal card or you don't. It's really that simple. Bitch.

    How much longer do we have to pretend that Elizabeth Warren is anything but a Fake Indian?

    It happened again yesterday — President Trump referred to the senior senator from Massachusetts as “Pocahontas,” and the alt-left media went into paroxysms of fake outrage, as if it’s somehow “racism” to call out a fraud like the Fake Indian.

    Isn’t the left supposed to despise “cultural appropriation?” What greater cultural appropriation could there be than for Elizabeth Warren to have falsely claimed an ethnic heritage in order to win not one, but two tenured Ivy League law professorships she had absolutely no shot of ever getting until she checked the box?

    All of the alt-left pajama boys and trust-funders who were hyperventilating about this yesterday, let me ask you a question:


    How come Pocahontas won’t take a DNA test so that we can find out, once and for all, how much Indian blood she really has, if any? Why has she refused my multiple generous offers to pay for her DNA test?

    We know she has no card from the Bureau of Indian Affairs, because if she had one, we would have damn well seen it five years ago, when the questions were first raised.

    Here’s some other stuff we know:

    The New England Historic Genealogical Society can find zero — repeat, zero — evidence of any Native American “ancestors.” We do know that one of her forebears was in the Tennessee militia that forced the Cherokee west toward Oklahoma, and that another ancestor shot a drunken Native American off a horse in the Indian Territory at the turn of the 20th century.

    Yes, she once contributed to a Cherokee cookbook called Pow Wow Chow — a haute-cuisine French recipe she lifted from a New York Times cookbook by a chef named Pierre Franey. Apparently cold crab omelet was a very popular dish along the Trail of Tears.

    Since all this came out, during the 2012 Senate campaign, the Fake Indian calls herself an Indian about as often as she brags about providing the “intellectual foundations” of the Occupy movement, which is to say, never.

    Nowadays she claims she’s “Okie down to her toes.”

    Yet, some of the most despicable hacks in Washington are always willing to go on the warpath whenever the president calls her out. In February, it was Sen. Al Franken blasting the president as a “racist” for deriding the Fake Indian as Pocahontas. If Al Franken is defending you … .

    But wait, there’s more. Two weeks ago, just days before his own outing as a serial Democrat sexual predator, U.S. Rep. John Conyers mentioned a tweet the president had sent out about “Pocahontas.”

  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited November 2017
    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    I stand with the Natives.

    image

    listal.com/list/hot-women-native-american-descent

    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:

    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT


    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.



    She won't disavow her early 90's fraud. Genealogical societies cannot find any proof that links her to Injuns. She's a fraud, though I get what you are saying about lore and legends. All kinds of families say this shit, which is why there are Indian rolls, and tribal ID cards. If you don't have that, you aren't injun. If you think you are, prove it and join the tribe. She did neither, ever, because she can't.

    Warren is a bit of an academic grifter. She’s willing to fake her way to the top. When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454121/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud



    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    But what do I know, I still hate Jane Fonda.
    I can't argue with that. Still worth a hatefuck?

    image

    I just think that too many people do the same damn thing - to me it seems more irritating than reprehensible. But I'm a fake 1/16 Blackfoot, so I'm kind of Patient Zero for this sort of thing (at least I don't claim Cherokee!)
    doogie said:

    AZ DUCKS little fairy tale is cute and all but really, all she has to do is PEE IN THE CUP

    WRONG! The geneology people are clear on that. Peeing in a cup proves very little. DNA samples can differ widely even among siblings.

    https://storify.com/mattmcfar/kim-tallbear

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,097
    Would not fuck Kim Tallbear.

    Would totally fuck Molly Culver and then steal her casino money.

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited November 2017
    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:
    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT
    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.



    She won't disavow her early 90's fraud. Genealogical societies cannot find any proof that links her to Injuns. She's a fraud, though I get what you are saying about lore and legends. All kinds of families say this shit, which is why there are Indian rolls, and tribal ID cards. If you don't have that, you aren't injun. If you think you are, prove it and join the tribe. She did neither, ever, because she can't.

    Warren is a bit of an academic grifter. She’s willing to fake her way to the top. When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454121/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud

    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    But what do I know, I still hate Jane Fonda.
    What tribe are you an enrollment member of?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,026 Founders Club
    When AZ goes Tequilla its a tell
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    When AZ goes Tequilla its a tell

    again, mostly cut and paste
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,026 Founders Club
    I'm not seeing the difference. Since I don't read them

    140 characters or fight!
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    One fake Indian outraged over another. Who gives a shit.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Brown University to allow students to self identify ethnicity

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39422/
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    doogie said:

    Brown University to allow students to self identify ethnicity

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39422/

    I'm suing. No attack helicopter option.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Alexis said:

    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and disagree, with all due respect. I'm thinking if someone published something saying you were black, you would immediately update it into your porn grindr profile.

    flatbed.gif

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,313 Founders Club

    I'm not seeing the difference. Since I don't read them

    140 54- 40 characters or fight!

    Fixed.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:
    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT
    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.



    She won't disavow her early 90's fraud. Genealogical societies cannot find any proof that links her to Injuns. She's a fraud, though I get what you are saying about lore and legends. All kinds of families say this shit, which is why there are Indian rolls, and tribal ID cards. If you don't have that, you aren't injun. If you think you are, prove it and join the tribe. She did neither, ever, because she can't.

    Warren is a bit of an academic grifter. She’s willing to fake her way to the top. When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454121/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud

    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    But what do I know, I still hate Jane Fonda.
    What tribe are you an enrollment member of?
    Cherokee. Grandmother was full blood Cherokee squaw living on the res in Oklahomo in 1940. Got trained to be a nurse on a "put the Injuns to work war effort" program during WWII. Grandpa got busted up and convalesced under her expert care. Got married later. I've been over this numerous times. Please pay attention.
    I wasn't asking to be a dick. I have never seen this story before. I do some work for the Eastern Band of Cherokee and have bid on work at the Cherokee nation in Oklahoma.

    Reality is, for us white folks, if your family has been in America for 4 generations or longer, it's pretty much guaranteed there is native or African in your family.

    That being said, Elizabeth Warren still sucks. I really don't know why we even argue that on here.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:
    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT
    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.



    She won't disavow her early 90's fraud. Genealogical societies cannot find any proof that links her to Injuns. She's a fraud, though I get what you are saying about lore and legends. All kinds of families say this shit, which is why there are Indian rolls, and tribal ID cards. If you don't have that, you aren't injun. If you think you are, prove it and join the tribe. She did neither, ever, because she can't.

    Warren is a bit of an academic grifter. She’s willing to fake her way to the top. When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454121/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud

    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    But what do I know, I still hate Jane Fonda.
    What tribe are you an enrollment member of?
    Cherokee. Grandmother was full blood Cherokee squaw living on the res in Oklahomo in 1940. Got trained to be a nurse on a "put the Injuns to work war effort" program during WWII. Grandpa got busted up and convalesced under her expert care. Got married later. I've been over this numerous times. Please pay attention.
    I wasn't asking to be a dick. I have never seen this story before. I do some work for the Eastern Band of Cherokee and have bid on work at the Cherokee nation in Oklahoma.

    Reality is, for us white folks, if your family has been in America for 4 generations or longer, it's pretty much guaranteed there is native or African in your family.

    That being said, Elizabeth Warren still sucks. I really don't know why we even argue that on here.
    A new Buffalo Burger truck???
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited November 2017
    Would poka her hontas.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,058
    Back in the day I used to head up to Tahola and fuck the living shit out of this little Quinault number. So, to be clear, it was always on the Rez proper and she was 100% card carrying Quinault.

    Am I in @Swaye ?
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    edited November 2017
    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    AZDuck said:

    I read your list (how could I not)?

    Here's da ting. Warren is guilty of the same thing as all these "women of native descent" are guilty of, save two: Carrie Underwood is a member of da tribe (meets the @Swaye "got your card" test) and another woman lists 1/4, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

    Lots of people have the ol' family legend about some native miscegenation back in the day.

    I have a great grandfather Scottish duck who was a missionary in British Columbia around 1900, and went native and married one of the local Blackfeet ducks. Allegedly I'm either 1/8 or 1/16 Blackfeet duck. Either way, not good enough for casino money, because they were Canadian ducks ("First Fowls").

    But the handful of times I've been to Jokelahoma (Hi @Fire_Marshall_Bill !), it seems everyone there claimed a chunk of Choctaw or Cherokee. Probably mostly bullshit, but part of family lore.

    If she ever used it to get ahead, that would be one thing, but apparently people dug into it and she didn't. Harvard did, when they used her alleged Indian-ness to pump up their minority numbers.

    Anyway, the geneological dude said this:
    Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee

    BUT
    Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”
    So anyway, it's feasible that there's some sort of family legend in her family (as in so many others) about having some Native admixture. My family has one, probably a bit more solid than the Warrens. I've never used mine for anything, because I have no connection with my alleged First Fowl past.

    What Warren's deal is, I dunno. As an aside, frankly, if she needed to use some dubious Indian heritage to get into Harvard, I'm not sure how blameworthy that really is, in a world that thinks that legacy admissions are OK.



    She won't disavow her early 90's fraud. Genealogical societies cannot find any proof that links her to Injuns. She's a fraud, though I get what you are saying about lore and legends. All kinds of families say this shit, which is why there are Indian rolls, and tribal ID cards. If you don't have that, you aren't injun. If you think you are, prove it and join the tribe. She did neither, ever, because she can't.

    Warren is a bit of an academic grifter. She’s willing to fake her way to the top. When she came to Harvard Law School, she was — believe it or not — considered by some to be a “minority hire.” She listed herself as a minority on a legal directory reviewed by deans and hiring committees. The University of Pennsylvania “listed her as a minority faculty member,” and she was touted after her hire at Harvard Law School as, yes, the school’s “first woman of color.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454121/elizabeth-warren-native-american-heritage-harvard-fraud

    So I get it, perhaps Harvard pushed the narrative, but if I got hired somewhere and then they published something saying I was black, perhaps I would dispute that. She used it, even if just via non-admission. And, if she hadn't marker herself as Native, how the fuck would Harvard have ever even known to put her down as a red? She's a fucking fraud.

    But what do I know, I still hate Jane Fonda.
    What tribe are you an enrollment member of?
    Cherokee. Grandmother was full blood Cherokee squaw living on the res in Oklahomo in 1940. Got trained to be a nurse on a "put the Injuns to work war effort" program during WWII. Grandpa got busted up and convalesced under her expert care. Got married later. I've been over this numerous times. Please pay attention.
    I wasn't asking to be a dick. I have never seen this story before. I do some work for the Eastern Band of Cherokee and have bid on work at the Cherokee nation in Oklahoma.

    Reality is, for us white folks, if your family has been in America for 4 generations or longer, it's pretty much guaranteed there is native or African in your family.

    That being said, Elizabeth Warren still sucks. I really don't know why we even argue that on here.
    I'm 2 percent west African bitch. And my family has only been here 3.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Back in the day I used to head up to Tahola and fuck the living shit out of this little Quinault number. So, to be clear, it was always on the Rez proper and she was 100% card carrying Quinault.

    Am I in @Swaye ?

    We have to rub our dongs together first then you've made it!
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    Back in the day I used to head up to Tahola and fuck the living shit out of this little Quinault number. So, to be clear, it was always on the Rez proper and she was 100% card carrying Quinault.

    Am I in @Swaye ?

    We'll need to review the photographic evidence