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What's wrong with the defense?

Don't give up 30 points for 2 years and then give that up in back to back games.

I mean, they got bailed out by Browning and Vizcaino.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    They had a couple of bad weeks. Twats track record says they will be fine and get back to normal.
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Well, we* better get it fixed before Game Marks comes to town
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Stanford figured out we don't cover the inside slant with our bend-don't-break zone defense, and we didn't care enough to fix that for Utah.

    Difference is Stanford would catch those passes and Utah receivers had a number of drops
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Murphy was clearly still hobbling and other other cb's are awful
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    DT/NG: We have 2 future NFL guys in Virta and Gains and a bunch of other interior DL that actually look pretty good but I think some of these guys are playing too heavy, we have no pass rush and little edge contain because we are overly focused on just playing two gap standup defense even on pass plays.

    DE: Bowman and Bartlett actually both look decent as pass rushers, potato and the rest look like they are on a weight and speed program to plug the middle and replace Vea and Gains.

    LB: Who the fuck cut off the supply of Rino Cum (tm)? Azeem looked like shit all season, Bieria looks weak and got run over all game last night, everyone is small, Mcintosh should have been moved to LB a season ago, Beavers is forgotten, and BBK is our best LB

    CB: all either midgets, injured, or injured midgets

    S: Rapp eyes dawg is the only good player, the other safeties hit like hard mother fuckers but are nothing more than high functioning retards in coverage.

    The biggest worry moving forward has got to be LB, we look small, unathletic, and slow with very few young guys ready to come in and compete or improve next year. Every other position can be fixed with a little bit of better coaching.
  • DoogieMcDoogerson
    DoogieMcDoogerson Member Posts: 2,509
    I'd like to see Joyner get a little bigger and play LB. I think biggest problem is the corners. Good thing is that WSU QBs throw picks and throw to a lot of midgets. What will happen in apple cup is they will catch some passes early and then get alligator arms as the game rolls on. Same thing happened to Utah.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,511
    DBs have been extremely bad the last 2 weeks.

    The 3rd and long conversions have really killed us and that's the biggest difference between Stanford/Utah and the rest of the year. We were giving up 8 yard draw plays to Rutgers as well. We were just stopping them when we needed to. When you keep lettingbteams off the hook on 3rd and 8+, you're defense is going to look like shit.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    edited November 2017
    Houhusky said:



    S: Rapp eyes dawg is the only good player, the other safeties hit like hard mother fuckers but are nothing more than high functioning retards in coverage.

    The biggest worry moving forward has got to be LB, we look small, unathletic, and slow with very few young guys ready to come in and compete or improve next year. Every other position can be fixed with a little bit of better coaching.

    So much this, though to be fair Wellington flashed a bit to me last night. He might be a gamer.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Swaye said:

    Houhusky said:



    S: Rapp eyes dawg is the only good player, the other safeties hit like hard mother fuckers but are nothing more than high functioning retards in coverage.

    The biggest worry moving forward has got to be LB, we look small, unathletic, and slow with very few young guys ready to come in and compete or improve next year. Every other position can be fixed with a little bit of better coaching.

    So much this, though to be fair Wellington flashed a bit to me last night. He might be a gamer.
    I will be so happy if Ngata, Beavers, Wellington, and Eifler surpass BBGAY
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,764 Standard Supporter
    Houhusky said:

    DT/NG: We have 2 future NFL guys in Virta and Gains and a bunch of other interior DL that actually look pretty good but I think some of these guys are playing too heavy, we have no pass rush and little edge contain because we are overly focused on just playing two gap standup defense even on pass plays.

    DE: Bowman and Bartlett actually both look decent as pass rushers, potato and the rest look like they are on a weight and speed program to plug the middle and replace Vea and Gains.

    LB: Who the fuck cut off the supply of Rino Cum (tm)? Azeem looked like shit all season, Bieria looks weak and got run over all game last night, everyone is small, Mcintosh should have been moved to LB a season ago, Beavers is forgotten, and BBK is our best LB

    CB: all either midgets, injured, or injured midgets

    S: Rapp eyes dawg is the only good player, the other safeties hit like hard mother fuckers but are nothing more than high functioning retards in coverage.

    The biggest worry moving forward has got to be LB, we look small, unathletic, and slow with very few young guys ready to come in and compete or improve next year. Every other position can be fixed with a little bit of better coaching.

    No pass rush:

    We have a scheme. When our D linemen are doubled they do not attempt to break through on pass plays. they simply spy. I've mentioned this before. Tedford had Vita and Gaines doubled every play vs. Fresno because he knows this having worked at UW. I don't get it, I know they can't get to the QB all the time but to not try because the ball comes out quick seems silly. We usually rush 3 or 4 we need a few more blitzes to keep them honest and not using up 4 to block 2. Of course when singled both Gaines and Vea kick ass.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Houhusky said:

    DT/NG: We have 2 future NFL guys in Virta and Gains and a bunch of other interior DL that actually look pretty good but I think some of these guys are playing too heavy, we have no pass rush and little edge contain because we are overly focused on just playing two gap standup defense even on pass plays.

    DE: Bowman and Bartlett actually both look decent as pass rushers, potato and the rest look like they are on a weight and speed program to plug the middle and replace Vea and Gains.

    LB: Who the fuck cut off the supply of Rino Cum (tm)? Azeem looked like shit all season, Bieria looks weak and got run over all game last night, everyone is small, Mcintosh should have been moved to LB a season ago, Beavers is forgotten, and BBK is our best LB

    CB: all either midgets, injured, or injured midgets

    S: Rapp eyes dawg is the only good player, the other safeties hit like hard mother fuckers but are nothing more than high functioning retards in coverage.

    The biggest worry moving forward has got to be LB, we look small, unathletic, and slow with very few young guys ready to come in and compete or improve next year. Every other position can be fixed with a little bit of better coaching.

    beavers forgotten? he looks good
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804

    whuggy said:

    Forgot to add that I think while Joyner is a very mediocre
    CB he could be one hell of an Earl Thomas free safety.
    Fast and hard hitting. You take a lot of his hitting game
    away from him at CB.

    Yep. He would be a better nickel or safety. He’s good though.
    He is supposed to be playing nickel.
  • AIRWOLF
    AIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840
    It isn't complicated.

    As others have noted, lack of edge rush is a real problem. The injury issue with the CBs is the other big problem.

    A shitty offense doesn't help any either.
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,863
    CBs need to defend against the pass and not just run with the receiver and then try to tackle them after they catch it. Giving up way too many 3rd and long plays.
  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,863


    CB: all either midgets, injured, or injured midgets

    this is correct.