Dave Samek & Kim: Good to know you're reading
Thanks for reading Dave. It's a relief to know you've taken a timeout from allegedly cheating on your wife to read what we have to say here. It's an honor.
The reason Kim's word is tracked here is to hold him accountable for the horseshit he's peddled over the years. We've tried to hold him, Eklund, and Fetters accountable for what they said when we were subscribers on your website, but they just go ahead and delete anything that challenges what they've said. Since that's how your staff has dealt with things, then the only option was to start our own website and call them out in this forum.
When we look at our numbers, it's obvious lots of your current and former members have decided to come here to discuss Husky football in freedom rather than at your website where only what Kim wants discussed is allowed to stay on your message boards. Don't get me wrong, we love looking at your "higher discussion board" and seeing Kim move, delete, edit, and lock damn near every thread that's started over there on gameday when Sark blows another game during this "special season".
I know losing readers is a shot to the pills, but your guys had their chance and the lying, manipulative, incorrect, and snide comments your staff has made over the years to customers has finally taken it's toll and now you can sit and spin on it.
Keep it up. I beg you. Keep telling your readers shit like, "Chip Kelly is gay", "Mora will implode", "2013 will be a special season", "X and Y recruit are idiots", "Ed Orgeron wants to go back to the NFL", and "The O-line is fine" and you'll keep pushing readership over here because people who aren't Section14a Fucking Stupid will eventually see your site for what it is: A place where Kim's views trump everyone else's so he can try to become someone who matters in the Husky football/Seattle sports scene. His ego will be your website's downfall.
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Don't forget that they'll move all threads related to Sark as coach off the higher level bored unless thread is started by JohnB to argue keeping the 7 win mediocre intern acting as coach.
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Absolutely fucking nailed it Cheers.
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Best post ever.
I would argue that Kim's ego has ALREADY been that sites downfall.
What are the traffic numbers over here?
I made my whole sig picture, and keep beating the 1%er drum because that is what Samek called us. The lunatic 1 percent. If you look at how many members are here, I think it is pretty obvious we are MUCH more than 1 percent. It is, and was, more comical than Turner's half brain comment.
I wear it as a badge of honor, while it also shows how out of touch Samek has become with the fan base. He really believes there is a 1 percent lunatic fringe of this fanbase that demands results. Try a third Dave, or more. Fairy dust farts and unicorn poop are polluting your brain Dave, and as the only sane guy at Doogman (at one time), I hope you can come back to your senses at some point.
Kim and his merry band of cronies have ruined your website. Perhaps allowing dissent and a truly open forum could have prevented that. We will never know. -
I'll just roll my eyes.
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Great mother fucking poast. It's shit like this that keep me paying here....
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I only hit "Awesome because there isn't an "Awesomer".
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Huh?
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I had the same problem. Sometimes Awesome just isn't enough!TommySQC said:I only hit "Awesome because there isn't an "Awesomer".
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Many talk about threads that deliver. This one does and then some.
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I will drink to that.
Well I will drink to anything, but I will take an EXTRA swig for that post. -
IrishDoog22 is proof positive that our Doogs is learning.
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Actually you are way off.AZDuck said:IrishDoog22 is proof positive that our Doogs is learning.
I have long been banned from that site and never visit it.
My problem is I personally let Sark off the hook during the off season, drank some Purple Kool Aid and "expected" 10+ wins this year.
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Let's not forget "the cancer won."
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Just before the end of my rope as my long-time subscription was running out, even Samek who had always been polite to me in a customer respect kind of way, dropped any attempt at civil debate or discussion,..... and began to attack me as a liar when I posted on weaknesses in SarkBall that were indisputable. I was a bit surprised by the Dawgman's seeming loss of neutrality in defending the site he started and the staff of doogs that had taken control, but I left the scene of many years wasted time wondering why I had bothered to be there in the first place. It really stopped being fun when Dawgman.com turned into Typology.com even though Husky Football was in big trouble and could use as much blog help of a negative nature it could get.
I am certain that Dawgman.com made a committed, planed, and concerted effort in the past couple of years to chase away all remaining negas hanging around. There seemed to be a method to it, particularly when Samek showed up to defend the Dm.c Insiders and more and more demonstrate his nearly total ignorance or knowledge of football. I don't know how Dm.c's business is doing these days since they've had so much success chasing reprehensible negas out of their store and I truly don't care. Because I'm an incurable Husky Fooball fanatic, I used to enjoy their Insider reports and articles on the players, recruits and team developments, but the content as it went from homer propaganda to hyperbolic bullshit gradually became repetitive and frankly boring.
I do think it's possible that Dm.c's subscriptions and their business interests could be on the rise..... for as we heard repeatedly over there for the past few years, doogs far outnumber negas in the World of Internet football and our presence possibly kept hords of lurking doogs from subscribing. My experience tells me it's true that in these times, more people than not are uncomfortable with debate and the pros and cons which inevitably come with discussion in any forum of negatives. Now that most of us have taken our front-running ways and attitudes elsewhere, Dm.c ownership and staff have the opportunity to prove their doog business model an improvement and success. -
Great post.
@ Tailgater: Losing seasons and stagnant programs do not bring in more subscribers, absolutely not. Couple that with the removal of the free boards and I find it very hard to believe their numbers are up. They proved long ago that access to the program was paramount for them. -
Abundance.
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Dave Samek has reached Kim Grinolds territory in this past month.
I can see why this fucker never opened his fucking mouth because he's just as retarded as these guys.
Like Cheers pointed out this is the same fuck who predicted an undefeated season with Gilby as our head coach. -
To summarize, fuck 'em.Tailgater said:Just before the end of my rope as my long-time subscription was running out, even Samek who had always been polite to me in a customer respect kind of way, dropped any attempt at civil debate or discussion,..... and began to attack me as a liar when I posted on weaknesses in SarkBall that were indisputable. I was a bit surprised by the Dawgman's seeming loss of neutrality in defending the site he started and the staff of doogs that had taken control, but I left the scene of many years wasted time wondering why I had bothered to be there in the first place. It really stopped being fun when Dawgman.com turned into Typology.com even though Husky Football was in big trouble and could use as much blog help of a negative nature it could get.
I am certain that Dawgman.com made a committed, planed, and concerted effort in the past couple of years to chase away all remaining negas hanging around. There seemed to be a method to it, particularly when Samek showed up to defend the Dm.c Insiders and more and more demonstrate his nearly total ignorance or knowledge of football. I don't know how Dm.c's business is doing these days since they've had so much success chasing reprehensible negas out of their store and I truly don't care. Because I'm an incurable Husky Fooball fanatic, I used to enjoy their Insider reports and articles on the players, recruits and team developments, but the content as it went from homer propaganda to hyperbolic bullshit gradually became repetitive and frankly boring.
I do think it's possible that Dm.c's subscriptions and their business interests could be on the rise..... for as we heard repeatedly over there for the past few years, doogs far outnumber negas in the World of Internet football and our presence possibly kept hords of lurking doogs from subscribing. My experience tells me it's true that in these times, more people than not are uncomfortable with debate and the pros and cons which inevitably come with discussion in any forum of negatives. Now that most of us have taken our front-running ways and attitudes elsewhere, Dm.c ownership and staff have the opportunity to prove their doog business model an improvement and success.
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I really don't get the feeling subscriptions are up in any meaningful way for doogman. The place is really quiet, and 90% of posts are by the same 20 usual suspects, including our own auburn.
Sure, most subscribers don't likely post. But I doubt it's a huge gulf. If they were thriving, you'd see more activity.
And let me add, successful message boards with good unique content aren't fucking paranoid about competitors. Any message of this place is immediately deleted over there. You can't even really make a passing reference to it. That's the response of people who are scared. When doogman subscribers find out about hardcore husky, Kim knows his empire will fall. I bet he is freaked out. Which is grand. -
What Kim/Dawgman has done the last few years is very bad for business in the long run and friends of theirs have even told them that.chrisvashon said:I really don't get the feeling subscriptions are up in any meaningful way for doogman. The place is really quiet, and 90% of posts are by the same 20 usual suspects, including our own auburn.
Sure, most subscribers don't likely post. But I doubt it's a huge gulf. If they were thriving, you'd see more activity.
And let me add, successful message boards with good unique content aren't fucking paranoid about competitors. Any message of this place is immediately deleted over there. You can't even really make a passing reference to it. That's the response of people who are scared. When doogman subscribers find out about hardcore husky, Kim knows his empire will fall. I bet he is freaked out. Which is grand.
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Imagine how powerful Dawgman.com would be right now if they had embraced open dialogue and free expression. Imagine if Race and I were still there writing articles and we were providing one side of the argument while the other staff members were in the pro-Sark camp. Dawgman would have risen to greater heights than before and there would be no need for a Hardcore Husky. They would have been the center of the Husky universe. Instead, they fucked themselves over royally.
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I agree that it would really, really help their business if they had at least one staff member who didn't suck Woodward and Sark's dick.DerekJohnson said:Imagine how powerful Dawgman.com would be right now if they had embraced open dialogue and free expression. Imagine if Race and I were still there writing articles and we were providing one side of the argument while the other staff members were in the pro-Sark camp. Dawgman would have risen to greater heights than before and there would be no need for a Hardcore Husky. They would have been the center of the Husky universe. Instead, they fucked themselves over royally.
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3/4 of Kim's business is here either Mike Damoned off the site or self exile
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There was a time when Dm.C was THE premier Scout website. . .known for open and honest dialogue. I miss that place. . .Kim's place, not at all.DerekJohnson said:Imagine how powerful Dawgman.com would be right now if they had embraced open dialogue and free expression. Imagine if Race and I were still there writing articles and we were providing one side of the argument while the other staff members were in the pro-Sark camp. Dawgman would have risen to greater heights than before and there would be no need for a Hardcore Husky. They would have been the center of the Husky universe. Instead, they fucked themselves over royally.
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Although he's definitely in a rut at seven, Sark hasn't had losing seasons after his first at Montlake. You absolutely could be right that Dm.c subscriptions are falling as Sarkball's varnish wears off, but there is the narrative around here that doogs, at least the kind that Kim and his guys want subscribing would rather have seven to get fanatical about than be associated with an Internet site constantly hammered by frontrunning negas like us. I'm not sure about that, but I suppose there could be an Internet fanbase that doesn't share our enthusiasm for the return to Husky glory as we used to know it. There must always be those who walk on the other side.Gladstone said:Great post.
@ Tailgater: Losing seasons and stagnant programs do not bring in more subscribers, absolutely not. Couple that with the removal of the free boards and I find it very hard to believe their numbers are up. They proved long ago that access to the program was paramount for them.
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Spot on.DerekJohnson said:Imagine how powerful Dawgman.com would be right now if they had embraced open dialogue and free expression. Imagine if Race and I were still there writing articles and we were providing one side of the argument while the other staff members were in the pro-Sark camp. Dawgman would have risen to greater heights than before and there would be no need for a Hardcore Husky. They would have been the center of the Husky universe. Instead, they fucked themselves over royally.
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Yep. Its a shame what that place has become.tracker said:
There was a time when Dm.C was THE premier Scout website. . .known for open and honest dialogue. I miss that place. . .Kim's place, not at all.DerekJohnson said:Imagine how powerful Dawgman.com would be right now if they had embraced open dialogue and free expression. Imagine if Race and I were still there writing articles and we were providing one side of the argument while the other staff members were in the pro-Sark camp. Dawgman would have risen to greater heights than before and there would be no need for a Hardcore Husky. They would have been the center of the Husky universe. Instead, they fucked themselves over royally.
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Yeah, I had gotten suckered into the DM.com hype for a little while. I bought into all the talk on the old, open boards about the 'inside' recruiting information, which was "ONLY AVAILABLE WITH A SUBSCRIPTION!!!" Only to eventually realize (yes, it took me a bit to figure it out... fuck!) that they had no clue what the hell they were talking about as players jumped ship from the Sark led Titanic Dawgman calls OL & DL recruiting.
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He's an absolute idiot for thinking this way. He's purged all the HHBs and chased off any negas left over there. It's the demographic he wants to have. Most people only want to see positives and will be drawn to a place like DM.com. Many people don't have the time to do the critical thinking that's needed to see why Sark isn't the guy and because of that, the superficial analysis and "insider" info from Kim and Phil Bleenor is awesome.chrisvashon said:I really don't get the feeling subscriptions are up in any meaningful way for doogman. The place is really quiet, and 90% of posts are by the same 20 usual suspects, including our own auburn.
Sure, most subscribers don't likely post. But I doubt it's a huge gulf. If they were thriving, you'd see more activity.
And let me add, successful message boards with good unique content aren't fucking paranoid about competitors. Any message of this place is immediately deleted over there. You can't even really make a passing reference to it. That's the response of people who are scared. When doogman subscribers find out about hardcore husky, Kim knows his empire will fall. I bet he is freaked out. Which is grand. -
I could only take so much of the fluffed Trip Reports before I was done. "XXXX absolutely loved it at Montlake, look for UW to be a player in this until signing day! He's working behind the scenes for a super-mega deal that will net us 7 5-star recruits. Oh, we were so close to landing an unprecedented group haul at the last hour, you don't even know! And you'll never know because I'm talking out of my ass and you have no way of verifying my bullshit, respeck da inside sources!" How anyone can put any credibility into those trip reports/inside sources at this point is beyond me. Even if the kids actually were saying they loved it, they say that about every trip so you can't glean any useful information from it. Between that and the useless "inside info," Doogman provides absolutely no value to its subscribers. The main value used to come from the boards, but now those have been nuked and we have a more than capable replacement.90sHuskyFan said:Yeah, I had gotten suckered into the DM.com hype for a little while. I bought into all the talk on the old, open boards about the 'inside' recruiting information, which was "ONLY AVAILABLE WITH A SUBSCRIPTION!!!" Only to eventually realize (yes, it took me a bit to figure it out... fuck!) that they had no clue what the hell they were talking about as players jumped ship from the Sark led Titanic Dawgman calls OL & DL recruiting.
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