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Vegas terror attack

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  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,069 Founders Club

    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    Why do you hate liberal trolls trying to make conservatives look bad?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,932 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2017

    Or he's a right wing gun nut. Or he's crazy with no agenda.
    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    Remember when Kim sleuthed out that we had an agenda?

    Put him on the case

    So you're saying it sounds like someone from Derek Johnson's crüe
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Sledog said:

    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
    I don't know and neither do you.

    Fuck off.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 35,932 Standard Supporter

    I don't know and neither do you.

    Fuck off.
    I actually knew one of the dead victims from the concert. They ate at my table and lived near me. I had met another that has died and one that's wounded. Several other people I know were at the concert. Several friends children were at the concert. Hard to wrap your head around why someone would commit such an act of evil.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    I actually knew one of the dead victims from the concert. They ate at my table and lived near me. I had met another that has died and one that's wounded. Several other people I know were at the concert. Several friends children were at the concert. Hard to wrap your head around why someone would commit such an act of evil.
    Hard to wrap your head around why you blame liberals with no evidence to the fact. And if you are so distraught with the deaths, that you think maintaining the status quo is the best option for the country.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,896
    Sledog said:

    A right winger wouldn't shoot up a country concert which is generally filled with conservatives.

    There is a photo and video of an anti-Trump protest in Reno floating around pointing out a guy that sure looks like this guy as a Trump protester wearing a pink NASA shirt and a pussy hat. No idea if it's really him but definitely looks like him.

    Put your bet down Sven.
    So possibly attending a Trump Protest in Reno based on some hack website grainy photo to gunning down 600 people doesn't seem like a bit of a reach to you?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,861 Founders Club
    this guy killed 84 with a rental truck.

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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,418
    Pretty sure county concerts are filled with girls in their 20s and 30s. So not conservatives.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,924 Founders Club
    edited October 2017

    this guy killed 84 with a rental truck.

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    Not the best analogy and as @AZDuck has pointed out we're in the salad days of truck based terrorist attacks. It's a relatively easy problem to solve- i.e., concrete barriers like you see out in front of Husky Stadium.

    How many plane hijackings have there been since 2001 with box cutters?
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited October 2017

    this guy killed 84 with a rental truck.

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    if only there was an economical way to prevent those kinds of attacks in parts of cities where large numbers of pedestrians gather...

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,861 Founders Club
    People often gather in the street. Bollards don't do shit in the thru way

    America has had bollards since the first World Trade Center

    Still has drive thrus
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,924 Founders Club
    edited October 2017

    People often gather in the street. Bollards don't do shit in the thru way

    America has had bollards since the first World Trade Center

    Still has drive thrus

    Not all bollards are created equal. You learn something new everyday here a Hardcore Husky. I didn't know what those things were called prior to this afternoon.

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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    People often gather in the street. Bollards don't do shit in the thru way

    America has had bollards since the first World Trade Center

    Still has drive thrus

    Disagree. if there had been bollards in the Ramblas (rhymes with NAMBLAS snort) that attack wouldn't have been successful at all. Likewise along the Promenade des Anglais in Nice and the Tower Bridge in London.

    All of those are high-pedestrian traffic areas, and the Ramblas are a pedestrianized street. Tower Bridge is right by the Houses of Parliament.

    Ramblas (also rhymes with Kurt Rambis) one of the spots where the Ramblas can be accessed from an street open to motor traffic:

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    Promenade des Anglais:

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    Tower Bridge:

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    Any place that has heavy pedestrian traffic, like these three, should be protected by bollards. Any time there is an event like a street fair or celebration that brings lots of people into the street, temporary barriers should be erected at the entrances.

    In the Nice case, bollards would have given people an opportunity to run away that they didn't have, even if the middle of the street was still unprotected.

    It isn't like you need to block off every street in every city, but cities have a pretty good idea which streets carry heavy pedestrian traffic. That's where they need to go.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 110,861 Founders Club
    We could give everyone bullet proof Bat Suits too
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