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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    "DNA provided by Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston matched the sample taken from the underwear of a woman who has accused him of sexual battery."

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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited November 2013
    I doubt many Tide, Buckeye, Bear, Duck or Tiger fans would be sad to see him watching the Florida game from home.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    It's a damn shame he didn't have a father.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    This doesn't mean anything. I don't think there was ever much doubt that Winston fucked the girl. The question is if it was consensual?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    RoadDawg55 said:

    This doesn't mean anything. I don't think there was ever much doubt that Winston fucked the girl. The question is if it was consensual?

    Probably not, seeming as she went to the police immediately afterwards.
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  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161
    Who does this Winston guy think he is, Jerramy Stevens?
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  • loadsock
    loadsock Member Posts: 686
    RaccoonHarry said:

    Who does this Winston guy think he is, Jerramy Stevens?

    That depends on if he also bare pickled her in the deuce hole.



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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    Another reason to wear rubber
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 188
    when is our society going to realize that rape isn't OK? did you guys know that 1 in 5 women are raped everyday, and that you're probably raping someone right now and you don't even know it?

    Rape. it's everywhere, all the time. It's time we start talking about it.
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  • TheOtcenRapist
    TheOtcenRapist Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2013
    Travis Morris said:

    Rape. it's everywhere, all the time. It's time we start talking about it.

    Yeah, lets do. I try to rape a bitch once a week in the Autzen parking lot. I spend the rest of my time sneaking in through unlocked doors and windows. If you think what I do is wrong then you can go die in a fucking fire. Bitches shouldn't show their tits and ass if they don't want to get raped.
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  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Sex != rape
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  • TheOtcenRapist
    TheOtcenRapist Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2013
    Gladstone said:

    Sex != rape

    Rape is an artform. Rapists are artists. By saying sex = rape you are discouraging aspiring rapists from getting into the trade. In fact you are demeaning the act of rape itself. If you continue to condone this belief then I'm out.

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  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    DNA stained sweatpants found in the basement don't mean anything by themselves

    This will be a he said/she said, move along tOSU fans
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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    I wonder why rape victims are hesitant to come forward.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    TheKobeStopper said:

    I wonder why rape victims are hesitant to come forward.

    Because they were axeing for it?

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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    unfrozencaveman said:

    DNA stained sweatpants found in the basement don't mean anything by themselves

    This will be a he said/she said, move along tOSU fans

    What does being a half brain have to do with this discussion?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 188
    I don't want to condemn Jameis until we have all the facts. I'm not saying he didn't rape her, he very well may have. Just because she went to the police immediately doesn't mean shit to me. didn't Kobe and Duke Lacrosse teach us anything?
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Travis Morris said:

    I don't want to condemn Jameis until we have all the facts. I'm not saying he didn't rape her, he very well may have. Just because she went to the police immediately doesn't mean shit to me. didn't Kobe and Duke Lacrosse teach us anything?

    Mike Tyson wishes he were white.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,050
    CollegeDoog said:

    Is the DNA match the smoking gun?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser

    I thought she dropped the complaint and didn't want to move forward with it. If that's still the case, then some dried up spooge won't help them because I don't think whether his tally wacker penetrated the clam is in question here. If that's the case, then the state would be w/o their star, and likely only, witness.

    Also, I could QB FSU to a win over Idaho and Florida. The key is whether he's playing in January.

    I like them over Bama. While I agree their ACC schedule was shit this year, and while I agree Clemson was not a legit top 3 team, they are a very good team and a very hard team to beat at home, and FSU clowned them and made it look like a scrimmage.

    You can see Florida State is built to win. There are a lot of players on that team who will be doing it on Sundays, and doing it well. This is an old school Florida State team.

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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    creepycoug said:

    CollegeDoog said:

    Is the DNA match the smoking gun?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser

    I thought she dropped the complaint and didn't want to move forward with it. If that's still the case, then some dried up spooge won't help them because I don't think whether his tally wacker penetrated the clam is in question here. If that's the case, then the state would be w/o their star, and likely only, witness.

    Also, I could QB FSU to a win over Idaho and Florida. The key is whether he's playing in January.

    I like them over Bama. While I agree their ACC schedule was shit this year, and while I agree Clemson was not a legit top 3 team, they are a very good team and a very hard team to beat at home, and FSU clowned them and made it look like a scrimmage.

    You can see Florida State is built to win. There are a lot of players on that team who will be doing it on Sundays, and doing it well. This is an old school Florida State team.

    I agree. If Winston plays, I'm taking FSU over Bama. That is a complete team.

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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I've prosecuted these kinds of cases... and the fact that a rape kit was done right after the alleged assault helps the prosecution A LOT. There are things in the rape kit which may or may not be released, such a bruising, tearing, abrasions and similar evidence that might corroborate the alleged victim's version of events.

    I'm a bit disappointed that this report was leaked to the media. For starters, it says bad things about the prosecution and the defense attorneys are right to be pissed. On the plus side for Winston, this gets them closer to being able to allege vindictive prosecution, or some kind of suppression motion - and might enable them to throw up some procedural roadblocks which will make this case much harder for the DA to litigate.

    And if the local police fucked up the initial investigation as badly as the ESPN report says, I can't see them getting a conviction. Police fuckups always benefit the accused.

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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    AZDuck said:

    I've prosecuted these kinds of cases... and the fact that a rape kit was done right after the alleged assault helps the prosecution A LOT. There are things in the rape kit which may or may not be released, such a bruising, tearing, abrasions and similar evidence that might corroborate the alleged victim's version of events.

    I'm a bit disappointed that this report was leaked to the media. For starters, it says bad things about the prosecution and the defense attorneys are right to be pissed. On the plus side for Winston, this gets them closer to being able to allege vindictive prosecution, or some kind of suppression motion - and might enable them to throw up some procedural roadblocks which will make this case much harder for the DA to litigate.

    And if the local police fucked up the initial investigation as badly as the ESPN report says, I can't see them getting a conviction. Police fuckups always benefit the accused.

    Yeah, but still.............
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    dnc said:

    creepycoug said:

    CollegeDoog said:

    Is the DNA match the smoking gun?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser

    I thought she dropped the complaint and didn't want to move forward with it. If that's still the case, then some dried up spooge won't help them because I don't think whether his tally wacker penetrated the clam is in question here. If that's the case, then the state would be w/o their star, and likely only, witness.

    Also, I could QB FSU to a win over Idaho and Florida. The key is whether he's playing in January.

    I like them over Bama. While I agree their ACC schedule was shit this year, and while I agree Clemson was not a legit top 3 team, they are a very good team and a very hard team to beat at home, and FSU clowned them and made it look like a scrimmage.

    You can see Florida State is built to win. There are a lot of players on that team who will be doing it on Sundays, and doing it well. This is an old school Florida State team.

    I agree. If Winston plays, I'm taking FSU over Bama. That is a complete team.

    They are very good, but Bama is still the best. Everyone is tired of Alabama, but they have the most talent and the best coaching. I think Bama will beat anyone they play rather easily.

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,050
    RoadDawg55 said:

    dnc said:

    creepycoug said:

    CollegeDoog said:

    Is the DNA match the smoking gun?

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser

    I thought she dropped the complaint and didn't want to move forward with it. If that's still the case, then some dried up spooge won't help them because I don't think whether his tally wacker penetrated the clam is in question here. If that's the case, then the state would be w/o their star, and likely only, witness.

    Also, I could QB FSU to a win over Idaho and Florida. The key is whether he's playing in January.

    I like them over Bama. While I agree their ACC schedule was shit this year, and while I agree Clemson was not a legit top 3 team, they are a very good team and a very hard team to beat at home, and FSU clowned them and made it look like a scrimmage.

    You can see Florida State is built to win. There are a lot of players on that team who will be doing it on Sundays, and doing it well. This is an old school Florida State team.

    I agree. If Winston plays, I'm taking FSU over Bama. That is a complete team.

    They are very good, but Bama is still the best. Everyone is tired of Alabama, but they have the most talent and the best coaching. I think Bama will beat anyone they play rather easily.

    I'm not sure they have the most talent. That Florida State team is loaded. Sure I'm sick of Alabama, but I always try to call it like I see it, not like how I wish it would be.

    Alabama has looked pretty human a few times this season. I just don't think they are what they were two years ago.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    The acc has been a shit storm for years playing against good competition from other conferences in BCS Games. No FSU does not get credit for beating NIU in the Orange Bowl.

    They may be good but I am in the LIPO crowd for FSU and would take bama until proven otherwise.
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  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    Travis Morris said:

    when is our society going to realize that rape isn't OK? did you guys know that 1 in 5 women are raped everyday, and that you're probably raping someone right now and you don't even know it?

    Rape. it's everywhere, all the time. It's time we start talking about it.

    When sex of any kind becomes obsolete and that's doable, society will decide it misses rape whether it was okay or not. I know at my age, I'd rather leave the car in the garage, but every now and then I take it out for a spin just to make sure it still runs. Rape isn't rape until it's proven to be nonconsensual. For a 19 year old potential Heisman QB to leave his DNA on female underwear may be careless or immature, but it happens. Not much else to discuss.

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,050
    AtomicDawg said:

    The acc has been a shit storm for years playing against good competition from other conferences in BCS Games. No FSU does not get credit for beating NIU in the Orange Bowl.

    They may be good but I am in the LIPO crowd for FSU and would take bama until proven otherwise.

    well way to go out there on a limb w/ some original shit.

    I think the thing about the ACC has been established. Some of us remember FSU from before the ACC. Sometimes you can see a great team even in a shit conference. You might also want to take a look at FSU's bowl record - both before and during ACC membership - before lumping them in with the rest of the ACC dreks.

    Just sayin'.

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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Deion Sanders and Terrell Buckley aren't walking through that door. For as good as they were last year they got embarrassed by a team with no offense (Florida) at home.

    Thanks for pointing out that Florida State was great when Bobby Bowden was there. Way to contribute to the fucking conversation.

    Florida State's skill positions other than Famous (I like to call him that) don't really invoke fear if I am bama. They have not faced a defense on the same planet as bama this year either.

    Sure FSU could beat them but I would take bama 7/10 times if not more.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    If Winston is suspended, FSU can go undefeated and I wouldn't put them into the title game. They aren't the same team without him. Give me Baylor or Ohio State instead if they go undefeated.
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