Oregon's Spring Game

RaceBannon said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

IPukeOregonGrellow said:

dnc said:

AZDuck said:

It's nice. Hopefully these kids stick. 5 4-stars in 24 hours is kind of unprecedented for us? even when we? were good.

One thing I've heard is that this is part of the reason Taggart cleaned house, was because the old staff, and everyone connected with all that program continuity approached recruiting with a "aw shucks we're little Oregon, and we're just happy to be a hat on the table" attitude. Taggart's approach is that Oregon is a blue-chip program with blue-chip facilities, blue-chip donor support, and blue-chip coffee cups.

Taggart brought 30 4* and 5* guys to Eugene for the Spring gayme, on unofficial visits. That in itself impresses me. Now he got almost a quarter of them to commit, same day, impresses me even moar. I know Leavit and Cristobal can coach. So, this has me feeling pretty happy.

1/6 = almost a quarter?

The only fraction we trust in Oregon is 9/10th of a cent.

3/5 is still a popular fraction south of the Columbia.

OUCH!!!!

FremontTroll said:

All of his numbers were down significantly on a per game basis in 2016.

Regardless of who the qb was UO completed more passes in 2016 and threw for more yards per game than 2015.

Obviously there was more talent to compete with for targets in 2014 than 2016. Six guys caught 5 or more TDs and Carrington had 4.

The point is that this whole narrative about Oregon juniors not declaring because 2017 is gonna be special is bullshit. Carrington was mediocre and likely wouldn't have been drafted.

Could he work harder than ever this summer, avoid rhabdo, and come back to post a monster Senior season? Sure.gif.

But he could also fail a drug test anf quit football. The point is he hasn't yet been the dominant and nfl-bound WR that fans want him to be.

Yeah, but that's not the narrative. It's your report of the narrative.

Two points have been made:

(1) it was a boost to Oregon's 2017 campaign that he returned; and (2) he could have been drafted. (1) is obvious. Nobody said 2017 was going to be sheshul. Just that it's a big return for them, and it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

(2) we're never going to finish this math proof. Oregon was a dumpster fire last year, and having a kid who can't throw playing the first five games is a realistic explanation for why one guy's stats are down. Maybe he was throwing more underneath stuff to Nelson. Maybe he was throwing to the backs more. I don't know. It became abundantly clear early on that Prukop was not a good passer so the downfield stuff was not at all what it had been, and Carrington is a downfield receiver.

I'm not talking about any of that 'could have' shit. That's your deal. I'm simply saying that you're wrong when you say he had a good freshman year and hasn't gotten better. He matched his 2014 production in 2015, and exceeded in TDs, all while playing 3 fewer games. 2016 was a problem year. Maybe he was part of the problem and mailed it in when he saw where the team was going. Oregon was a mess last season; trying to make an argument that they weren't is working too hard. I almost stopped reading after "regardless of who the QB was," which reminded me of the Mrs. Lincoln saying. There are a lot of reasons why a kid's stats can go down. He caught more passes for fewer yds. per catch ... could it be a function of how their offense was functioning last year? Yeah, probably. I don't think he got shitty all of sudden.

The kid averaged close to 20 YPC his freshman and sophomore year. You want to write him off as mediocre, go ahead. I doubt a single DC in the Pac 12 would agree with your assessment when planning for Oregon.

RoadDawg55 said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

All of his numbers were down significantly on a per game basis in 2016.

Regardless of who the qb was UO completed more passes in 2016 and threw for more yards per game than 2015.

Obviously there was more talent to compete with for targets in 2014 than 2016. Six guys caught 5 or more TDs and Carrington had 4.

The point is that this whole narrative about Oregon juniors not declaring because 2017 is gonna be special is bullshit. Carrington was mediocre and likely wouldn't have been drafted.

Could he work harder than ever this summer, avoid rhabdo, and come back to post a monster Senior season? Sure.gif.

But he could also fail a drug test anf quit football. The point is he hasn't yet been the dominant and nfl-bound WR that fans want him to be.

Yeah, but that's not the narrative. It's your report of the narrative.

Two points have been made:

(1) it was a boost to Oregon's 2017 campaign that he returned; and (2) he could have been drafted. (1) is obvious. Nobody said 2017 was going to be sheshul. Just that it's a big return for them, and it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

(2) we're never going to finish this math proof. Oregon was a dumpster fire last year, and having a kid who can't throw playing the first five games is a realistic explanation for why one guy's stats are down. Maybe he was throwing more underneath stuff to Nelson. Maybe he was throwing to the backs more. I don't know. It became abundantly clear early on that Prukop was not a good passer so the downfield stuff was not at all what it had been, and Carrington is a downfield receiver.

I'm not talking about any of that 'could have' shit. That's your deal. I'm simply saying that you're wrong when you say he had a good freshman year and hasn't gotten better. He matched his 2014 production in 2015, and exceeded in TDs, all while playing 3 fewer games. 2016 was a problem year. Maybe he was part of the problem and mailed it in when he saw where the team was going. Oregon was a mess last season; trying to make an argument that they weren't is working too hard. I almost stopped reading after "regardless of who the QB was," which reminded me of the Mrs. Lincoln saying. There are a lot of reasons why a kid's stats can go down. He caught more passes for fewer yds. per catch ... could it be a function of how their offense was functioning last year? Yeah, probably. I don't think he got shitty all of sudden.

The kid averaged close to 20 YPC his freshman and sophomore year. You want to write him off as mediocre, go ahead. I doubt a single DC in the Pac 12 would agree with your assessment when planning for Oregon.

Didn't you used to make fun of doogs for being obsessed with Oregon?

Fucks sake Creep, I think Carrington is good too, but how many threads are you going to post about him?

And still do ....

Fair poont. If Freemont came back with another volley, I had already planned to relent. Truthfully, my line of interest in Carrington was passed five poasts ago.

creepycoug said:

RoadDawg55 said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

All of his numbers were down significantly on a per game basis in 2016.

Regardless of who the qb was UO completed more passes in 2016 and threw for more yards per game than 2015.

Obviously there was more talent to compete with for targets in 2014 than 2016. Six guys caught 5 or more TDs and Carrington had 4.

The point is that this whole narrative about Oregon juniors not declaring because 2017 is gonna be special is bullshit. Carrington was mediocre and likely wouldn't have been drafted.

Could he work harder than ever this summer, avoid rhabdo, and come back to post a monster Senior season? Sure.gif.

But he could also fail a drug test anf quit football. The point is he hasn't yet been the dominant and nfl-bound WR that fans want him to be.

Yeah, but that's not the narrative. It's your report of the narrative.

Two points have been made:

(1) it was a boost to Oregon's 2017 campaign that he returned; and (2) he could have been drafted. (1) is obvious. Nobody said 2017 was going to be sheshul. Just that it's a big return for them, and it is. Hard to argue otherwise.

(2) we're never going to finish this math proof. Oregon was a dumpster fire last year, and having a kid who can't throw playing the first five games is a realistic explanation for why one guy's stats are down. Maybe he was throwing more underneath stuff to Nelson. Maybe he was throwing to the backs more. I don't know. It became abundantly clear early on that Prukop was not a good passer so the downfield stuff was not at all what it had been, and Carrington is a downfield receiver.

I'm not talking about any of that 'could have' shit. That's your deal. I'm simply saying that you're wrong when you say he had a good freshman year and hasn't gotten better. He matched his 2014 production in 2015, and exceeded in TDs, all while playing 3 fewer games. 2016 was a problem year. Maybe he was part of the problem and mailed it in when he saw where the team was going. Oregon was a mess last season; trying to make an argument that they weren't is working too hard. I almost stopped reading after "regardless of who the QB was," which reminded me of the Mrs. Lincoln saying. There are a lot of reasons why a kid's stats can go down. He caught more passes for fewer yds. per catch ... could it be a function of how their offense was functioning last year? Yeah, probably. I don't think he got shitty all of sudden.

The kid averaged close to 20 YPC his freshman and sophomore year. You want to write him off as mediocre, go ahead. I doubt a single DC in the Pac 12 would agree with your assessment when planning for Oregon.

Didn't you used to make fun of doogs for being obsessed with Oregon?

Fucks sake Creep, I think Carrington is good too, but how many threads are you going to post about him?

And still do ....

Fair poont. If Freemont came back with another volley, I had already planned to relent. Truthfully, my line of interest in Carrington was passed five poasts ago.

Still sounds like you care