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Somebody needs to tell the 16 recruits in Oregon's #4 rated class

that, as per Kim, "Oregon is really a mess right now". I'm sure once they hear that quote from the maestro they'll pretty much all want to jump ship.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Does harrison's commitment mean that UW didn't get the #1 WA player this year and last year (sarrell)?

    Asking somebody who is dialed in.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    Passion said:

    Does harrison's commitment mean that UW didn't get the #1 WA player this year and last year (sarrell)?

    Asking somebody who is dialed in.

    I think Sirmon is the number 1 WA recruit this year.
  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    Swaye said:

    Passion said:

    Does harrison's commitment mean that UW didn't get the #1 WA player this year and last year (sarrell)?

    Asking somebody who is dialed in.

    I think Sirmon is the number 1 WA recruit this year.
    Oh yah...him.
  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    That hammer is going to drop any day now.
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255
    Passion said:

    Does harrison's commitment mean that UW didn't get the #1 WA player this year and last year (sarrell)?

    Asking somebody who is dialed in.

    Harrison might be the best player in Washington (to my eyes), but is not rated as such currently. In fact, of the rankings services, only on ESPN is Trey Lowe rated below Harrison.

    However, that is soon to change. He has gone up from unrated to composite 4* just from people watching his junior highlights. Once he goes out and destroys Metro his senior season, he might get bumped all the way to 5*. He is that good. So, the answer is possibly.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128

    Passion said:

    Does harrison's commitment mean that UW didn't get the #1 WA player this year and last year (sarrell)?

    Asking somebody who is dialed in.

    Harrison might be the best player in Washington (to my eyes), but is not rated as such currently. In fact, of the rankings services, only on ESPN is Trey Lowe rated below Harrison.

    However, that is soon to change. He has gone up from unrated to composite 4* just from people watching his junior highlights. Once he goes out and destroys Metro his senior season, he might get bumped all the way to 5*. He is that good. So, the answer is possibly.
    He's not getting to 5*. He's 264 on scout. 301 on 247. They would have to drop guys as well, which they don't like to make drastic because they are kids.

    The rankings fluctuate, but not that much.

    I agree he's the best player in the state though.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Damn, sux to lose a good prospect who could be a potential AA DB
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    Passion said:

    Does harrison's commitment mean that UW didn't get the #1 WA player this year and last year (sarrell)?

    Asking somebody who is dialed in.

    Harrison might be the best player in Washington (to my eyes), but is not rated as such currently. In fact, of the rankings services, only on ESPN is Trey Lowe rated below Harrison.

    However, that is soon to change. He has gone up from unrated to composite 4* just from people watching his junior highlights. Once he goes out and destroys Metro his senior season, he might get bumped all the way to 5*. He is that good. So, the answer is possibly.
    He's not getting to 5*. He's 264 on scout. 301 on 247. They would have to drop guys as well, which they don't like to make drastic because they are kids.

    The rankings fluctuate, but not that much.

    I agree he's the best player in the state though.
    IMO Kyler Gordon is the best recruit in the state.

    I don't think we? loose him, but didn't think we'd loose TreShaun either.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club
    So

    Oregon is BACK?

    I just didn't think it would happen so soon
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,220 Founders Club
    Serious question on this for @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung. Is Taggart and company over or underperforming in recruiting thus far based on your initial expectations? We knew that he was assembling a crack team of ace recruiters, but at first glance it seems they are doing very well for a program that experience an epic regression since being in the NT game. What is your level of concern?
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937

    Serious question on this for @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung. Is Taggart and company over or underperforming in recruiting thus far based on your initial expectations? We knew that he was assembling a crack team of ace recruiters, but at first glance it seems they are doing very well for a program that experience an epic regression since being in the NT game. What is your level of concern?

    They can't coach.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,220 Founders Club

    Serious question on this for @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung. Is Taggart and company over or underperforming in recruiting thus far based on your initial expectations? We knew that he was assembling a crack team of ace recruiters, but at first glance it seems they are doing very well for a program that experience an epic regression since being in the NT game. What is your level of concern?

    They can't coach.
    So the narrative goes...
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419

    Serious question on this for @CokeGreaterThanPepsi and @Dennis_DeYoung. Is Taggart and company over or underperforming in recruiting thus far based on your initial expectations? We knew that he was assembling a crack team of ace recruiters, but at first glance it seems they are doing very well for a program that experience an epic regression since being in the NT game. What is your level of concern?

    sub .500 coach at multiple stops who had 1 quasi break out season and then bailed

    so he's ron zook

    oh no
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,220 Founders Club

    LIPO. Right now Taggart is taking the Sark recruiting approach by offering anyone and everyone rated by a recruiting site a scholarship. Except he doesn't have to deal with 0-12!!1

    I think Taggart will have a Sark type career at Oregon. He will recruit above average but people will make it seem like he's killing it, he will lose games he shouldn't and beat some overrated ranked teams to keep his job longer than he should.

    Agree with Waffle and Gladstone here and have a hard time envisioning Coach T getting them back to the promised land circa 2009- 14, but as one who isn't that much into the TBS part of this, was curious if we? should be concerned yet at this juncture- i.e, #4 ranked class with 16 recruits thus far (our star rating per kid is higher, however).
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    LIPO. Right now Taggart is taking the Sark recruiting approach by offering anyone and everyone rated by a recruiting site a scholarship. Except he doesn't have to deal with 0-12!!1

    I think Taggart will have a Sark type career at Oregon. He will recruit above average but people will make it seem like he's killing it, he will lose games he shouldn't and beat some overrated ranked teams to keep his job longer than he should.

    Sort of agree but he's recruiting better than Sark ever did.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club
    Oregon does have a huge advantage with teen boys due to the Duckade. That won't go away over night.

    At the beginning of the Duckade, UW still did good in recruiting in relation to Oregon. The first 4 or 5 losses we would pick UW to win because of recruiting.

    But Taggert is going to have to coach. We know that. Helfrich had talent last year.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    LIPO. Right now Taggart is taking the Sark recruiting approach by offering anyone and everyone rated by a recruiting site a scholarship. Except he doesn't have to deal with 0-12!!1

    I think Taggart will have a Sark type career at Oregon. He will recruit above average but people will make it seem like he's killing it, he will lose games he shouldn't and beat some overrated ranked teams to keep his job longer than he should.

    Sort of agree but he's recruiting better than Sark ever did.
    Agree but 2017 Oregon > 2009 Washington. You people act like @Owen12 never happened.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,220 Founders Club

    Oregon does have a huge advantage with teen boys due to the Duckade. That won't go away over night.

    At the beginning of the Duckade, UW still did good in recruiting in relation to Oregon. The first 4 or 5 losses we would pick UW to win because of recruiting.

    But Taggert is going to have to coach. We know that. Helfrich had talent last year.

    I guess I'm still in a doogish, BONEM, mind set, but Oregon at home (ok Eugene...hardy har har) is the game I have circled on the calendar as being the one we cannot fucking lose. It's going to take more than one finger point and 70-21 to take all the shine off their brand.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    LIPO. Right now Taggart is taking the Sark recruiting approach by offering anyone and everyone rated by a recruiting site a scholarship. Except he doesn't have to deal with 0-12!!1

    I think Taggart will have a Sark type career at Oregon. He will recruit above average but people will make it seem like he's killing it, he will lose games he shouldn't and beat some overrated ranked teams to keep his job longer than he should.

    Agree with Waffle and Gladstone here and have a hard time envisioning Coach T getting them back to the promised land circa 2009- 14, but as one who isn't that much into the TBS part of this, was curious if we? should be concerned yet at this juncture- i.e, #4 ranked class with 16 recruits thus far (our star rating per kid is higher, however).
    This is what reminds me of Sark. Start off in a blaze of glory but trail in star ratings. By LOI day that top ten class would be closer to 20 and worse with average rating.

    Not saying that is the case at Oregon this year so don't twist. Just saying it looks familiar.

    Taggert can lose to us? 34 -17 (rather easily) and the quooks would gush over the massive improvement from 70-21.

    Or he could win in Seattle and we? break the internet
    Sorry to disappoint but quooks won't gush over anything other than a win.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,767 Founders Club

    LIPO. Right now Taggart is taking the Sark recruiting approach by offering anyone and everyone rated by a recruiting site a scholarship. Except he doesn't have to deal with 0-12!!1

    I think Taggart will have a Sark type career at Oregon. He will recruit above average but people will make it seem like he's killing it, he will lose games he shouldn't and beat some overrated ranked teams to keep his job longer than he should.

    Agree with Waffle and Gladstone here and have a hard time envisioning Coach T getting them back to the promised land circa 2009- 14, but as one who isn't that much into the TBS part of this, was curious if we? should be concerned yet at this juncture- i.e, #4 ranked class with 16 recruits thus far (our star rating per kid is higher, however).
    This is what reminds me of Sark. Start off in a blaze of glory but trail in star ratings. By LOI day that top ten class would be closer to 20 and worse with average rating.

    Not saying that is the case at Oregon this year so don't twist. Just saying it looks familiar.

    Taggert can lose to us? 34 -17 (rather easily) and the quooks would gush over the massive improvement from 70-21.

    Or he could win in Seattle and we? break the internet
    Sorry to disappoint but quooks won't gush over anything other than a win.
    Disagree

    #script
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    LIPO. Right now Taggart is taking the Sark recruiting approach by offering anyone and everyone rated by a recruiting site a scholarship. Except he doesn't have to deal with 0-12!!1

    I think Taggart will have a Sark type career at Oregon. He will recruit above average but people will make it seem like he's killing it, he will lose games he shouldn't and beat some overrated ranked teams to keep his job longer than he should.

    Agree with Waffle and Gladstone here and have a hard time envisioning Coach T getting them back to the promised land circa 2009- 14, but as one who isn't that much into the TBS part of this, was curious if we? should be concerned yet at this juncture- i.e, #4 ranked class with 16 recruits thus far (our star rating per kid is higher, however).
    This is what reminds me of Sark. Start off in a blaze of glory but trail in star ratings. By LOI day that top ten class would be closer to 20 and worse with average rating.

    Not saying that is the case at Oregon this year so don't twist. Just saying it looks familiar.

    Taggert can lose to us? 34 -17 (rather easily) and the quooks would gush over the massive improvement from 70-21.

    Or he could win in Seattle and we? break the internet
    Sorry to disappoint but quooks won't gush over anything other than a win.
    Disagree

    #script
    Sorta like the script in 2014 where UCLA was supposed to beat Oregon instead of Oregon rampaging through the conference, right?
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Willie is doing well with recruiting so far this year, but no better than Chip or Slingblade did in their time. Oregon wasn't going to go completely down the shitter because of one year, just like UW wasn't going to become every kid's dream school based on last year. These kids still grew up with Oregon being cool and UW being lame.

    That being said, Oregon has to win this year. If they are 3-6 at some point, their commits will start dropping like flies, especially the ones from Florida. With Nelson, Carrington, and Freeman gone next year, they will probably be looking at a major rebuild on offense next year as well. At the very least. They need a Sark year - 5-4 in conference with at least one big upset win.