"California’s descent to socialism"


California is widely celebrated as the fount of technical, cultural and political innovation. Now we seem primed to outdo even ourselves, creating a new kind of socialism that, in the end, more resembles feudalism than social democracy.
The new consensus is being pushed by, among others, hedge-fund-billionaire-turned-green-patriarch Tom Steyer. The financier now insists that, to reverse our worsening inequality, we must double down on environmental and land-use regulation, and make up for it by boosting subsidies for the struggling poor and middle class. This new progressive synthesis promises not upward mobility and independence, but rather the prospect of turning most Californians into either tax slaves or dependent serfs.
The oligarchs of the Bay Area have a problem: They must square their progressive worldview with their enormous wealth. They certainly are not socialists in the traditional sense. They see their riches not as a result of class advantages, but rather as reflective of their meritocratic superiority. As former TechCrunch reporter Gregory Ferenstein has observed, they embrace massive inequality as both a given and a logical outcome of the new economy.
The nerd estate is definitely not stupid, and like rulers everywhere, they worry about a revolt of the masses, and even the unionization of their companies. Their gambit is to expand the welfare state to keep the hoi polloi in line. Many, including Mark Zuckerberg, now favor an income stipend that could prevent mass homelessness and malnutrition.
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That's the plan for the entire world. Not just California.
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Good chit splitskin
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California sucks. Paradise lost. Thanks Obama.
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I hear it's a great place to be a renter!
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Swaye said:
California sucks. Paradise lost. Thanks
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I remember watching a video about a guy who built a bunch of tiny homes for the homeless in LA, but the city came and destroyed them all.
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I don't know about you, but I'm totally in favor of mass homelessness and malnutrition. Keep the fucking proles in line.
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Stabbing someone in the heart and putting a bandaid on it is always special.AZDuck said:I don't know about you, but I'm totally in favor of mass homelessness and malnutrition. Keep the fucking proles in line.
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California leads the way!PurpleJ said:That's the plan for the entire world. Not just California.
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I'm too upset about poor people shit in Idaho to give a fuck about this
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I felt especially miserable this morning as I stared out over the ocean from the row of ellipticals at the gym. Not because California is going to hell, but because the marine layer was moving in.
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Tie me up, spank me and call me a socialist.
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Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
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That's kind of like using the Mariners to judge the Yankeesbananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
Meanwhile I'll be forced to celebrate my birthday in crisp 100 degree heat here in Socialistland
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That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
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TRICKLE-DOWN ECONOMICS CAN NEVER FAIL
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This is what Alex Jones would sound like if he was a democrat.
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Stop eating 'Member Berries.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
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Added bonus that your age matches the temp.RaceBannon said:
That's kind of like using the Mariners to judge the Yankeesbananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
Meanwhile I'll be forced to celebrate my birthday in crisp 100 degree heat here in Socialistland
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Wait, so they want to end poverty by giving the poor more money? No no, this can't work. @Sledog told me they just need to go get a 3rd or 4th job instead.
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Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves. -
As the bored's Superiority Guy on Rural Oregon, let me assure you it has been dumber a lot longer than that.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves. -
GrundleStiltzkin said:
http://www.dailynews.com/opinion/20170611/californias-descent-to-socialism-joel-kotkin
California is widely celebrated as the fount of technical, cultural and political innovation. Now we seem primed to outdo even ourselves, creating a new kind of socialism that, in the end, more resembles feudalism than social democracy.
The new consensus is being pushed by, among others, hedge-fund-billionaire-turned-green-patriarch Tom Steyer. The financier now insists that, to reverse our worsening inequality, we must double down on environmental and land-use regulation, and make up for it by boosting subsidies for the struggling poor and middle class. This new progressive synthesis promises not upward mobility and independence, but rather the prospect of turning most Californians into either tax slaves or dependent serfs.The oligarchs of the Bay Area have a problem: They must square their progressive worldview with their enormous wealth. They certainly are not socialists in the traditional sense. They see their riches not as a result of class advantages, but rather as reflective of their meritocratic superiority. As former TechCrunch reporter Gregory Ferenstein has observed, they embrace massive inequality as both a given and a logical outcome of the new economy.
Joel kotkin sounds poor and unskilled. We don't want him in California.
The nerd estate is definitely not stupid, and like rulers everywhere, they worry about a revolt of the masses, and even the unionization of their companies. Their gambit is to expand the welfare state to keep the hoi polloi in line. Many, including Mark Zuckerberg, now favor an income stipend that could prevent mass homelessness and malnutrition. -
Cali's been on the other side of the plate for many years. More homeless now than ever. If you build it they will come.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
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It's been longer than 13 years. Locking up the Forests and leaving them to over growth and disease, all the while decimating most of rural Oregon's economy must have looked so good on paper when Clinton signed those laws. But Hey, they saved habitat for an Owl, that it turns out doesn't really thrive here anyway.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
But if those loggers and mill workers would have just learned to write code, their towns wouldn't be in the predicament they are in, right? -
Wait, now you want to control the environment? Which is it?salemcoog said:
It's been longer than 13 years. Locking up the Forests and leaving them to over growth and disease, all the while decimating most of rural Oregon's economy must have looked so good on paper when Clinton signed those laws. But Hey, they saved habitat for an Owl, that it turns out doesn't really thrive here anyway.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
But if those loggers and mill workers would have just learned to write code, their towns wouldn't be in the predicament they are in, right? -
Triggered fucking simpleton.salemcoog said:
It's been longer than 13 years. Locking up the Forests and leaving them to over growth and disease, all the while decimating most of rural Oregon's economy must have looked so good on paper when Clinton signed those laws. But Hey, they saved habitat for an Owl, that it turns out doesn't really thrive here anyway.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
But if those loggers and mill workers would have just learned to write code, their towns wouldn't be in the predicament they are in, right? -
I have no idea what you are referencing.salemcoog said:
It's been longer than 13 years. Locking up the Forests and leaving them to over growth and disease, all the while decimating most of rural Oregon's economy must have looked so good on paper when Clinton signed those laws. But Hey, they saved habitat for an Owl, that it turns out doesn't really thrive here anyway.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
But if those loggers and mill workers would have just learned to write code, their towns wouldn't be in the predicament they are in, right? -
2001400ex said:
Wait, now you want to control the environment? Which is it?salemcoog said:
It's been longer than 13 years. Locking up the Forests and leaving them to over growth and disease, all the while decimating most of rural Oregon's economy must have looked so good on paper when Clinton signed those laws. But Hey, they saved habitat for an Owl, that it turns out doesn't really thrive here anyway.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
But if those loggers and mill workers would have just learned to write code, their towns wouldn't be in the predicament they are in, right? -
I'm surprised that you're not surprised.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I have no idea what you are referencing.salemcoog said:
It's been longer than 13 years. Locking up the Forests and leaving them to over growth and disease, all the while decimating most of rural Oregon's economy must have looked so good on paper when Clinton signed those laws. But Hey, they saved habitat for an Owl, that it turns out doesn't really thrive here anyway.Mosster47 said:
Rural Oregon is a special kind of stupid now too. They haven't had a sense or purpose since 2004. Survival mode for 13 years churns out insane stupidity.PurpleThrobber said:
That needs a do-over because Kansans are inherently the dumbest motherfucking people on the planet.bananasnblondes said:Kansas already tried the "conservative utopia" experiment and it was a complete fucking disaster. Let's see what Cali can do batting from the other side of the plate.
I kid you not, I do business all over the country - and those fuckers are in an idiot class by themselves.
But if those loggers and mill workers would have just learned to write code, their towns wouldn't be in the predicament they are in, right?