Recruiting grad transfers: it's hard

You said "it's hard"

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

WeakarmCobra said:

Edwin_Bambino said:

Anyone more in the know than myself care to shed any light on the apparel deal Caple mentioned near the end of the article? Is UW considering leaving Nike?

I think addidas is trying to take a hard run at UW. Nike will probably match

Your saying the Nazi's are gonna make a hard run at Jen followed up by Nike? Hope she's prepared.

I Finally read the link.

How fucking hard would it be to have a general studies grad program designed for athletes and others that starts them off taking general studies grad level courses then allows them to transfer into a program of choice the following year?

uzi said:

Saracen said:

The difficulties in taking on a grad transfer, along with the obstacles for getting JUCO players (due to no PE or similar majors) would definitely seem to be way more of a challenge for Hopkins than Petersen.

And it's not something that will changed any time soon.

How did Lambo get Corry Dillon in as a JUCO transfer?

I heard rumors that Dillon couldn't even read, and got a 0.0 GPA the one quarter he was enrolled at the UW, before declaring for the Pros.

That said, I'd love another RB like Dillon. Dude was a man among boys on the field.

It's not impossible, just more difficult at UW than at many other schools. Basically, there's no Physical Education major or equivalent at UW, so when transferring a) they only take a very minimal amount and b) they don't count in overall GPA. And most JUCO kids load up on PE classes for both credit total and GPA boost.

Not sure the details on Dillon, but both Garden City and Dixie (was JC then, now 4 year) are/were both powerhouses that have lots of experience with moving kids on to D1 schools. Not saying they're doing it right - don't twist - just that they probably were clever/shady enough to have passthrough, non-PE classes that would meet requirements. For those who went to UW in the James heydays it would be akin to a schedule with lots of classes like Geology 101, Psych 210, that independent Psych research class, and Swahili.

I freely admit I know next to nothing about this issue. I don't know the difference between a graduate transfer and some kid who's played one or two years of Juco. Is is that the kids have to complete their AAs at JUCO to xfer? If so, why? I get the PE credit issue ... that's somewhat unique to UW (as I recall even Cal accepts those credits). But I'm assuming that we'd? be after people who needed JUCO for whatever reason and played a season or two and now want to xfer to UW and bring whatever credits the school will allow. For gen pop, xfering from JUCO, even after a year, is the easiest way to get into UW. It goes from being a relative competitive thing to be super fucking easy. Test scores suddenly don't matter ... just get a decent GPA taking easy classes and you're in. I see kids do it all the time.

All I can do is shake my head when I see the following from the common data sets (the one place where the schools don't lie about their stats):

CLASS OF 2021
Profile of Students

GPA SAT ACT
UW W M ERW
Average 3.60 3.92 654 628 29
Low 1.20 2.26 200 200 17
High 4.00 5.00 800 780 35

So, bottom line, who do you think that 1.20 GPA is? You think it's the 150 lb. white kid from North Bend who can't Reed Strong?

So if regular recruiting can get a kid in the door with a 1.2 GPA and 200 math and reading SAT scores, if THAT's possible, then you'd think someone would walk up to the admin building and convince them it makes just as much sense to fix the transfer issue.

The problem is, this gets translated to the fans as a Stanford issue. Trust me: there is not one person, not one single athlete, at Stanford who scored a 200 on either section of the SAT or a 1.2 GPA. Not one. They would take a hard pass on Michael Jordan with those numbers.

Mad_Son said:

I'm hoping for Reebok

Champion or GTFO

The 1.2, 200, and 200 are three different kids.

Im hoping for crocs.

FremontTroll said:

The 1.2, 200, and 200 are three different kids.

let's assume that ... doesn't that make my point? You get 200 points on the SAT for getting out of bed and getting to the test center on time ... you are aware of how the distribution works on those tests, right?

FremontTroll said:

creepycoug said:

FremontTroll said:

The 1.2, 200, and 200 are three different kids.

let's assume that ... doesn't that make my point? You get 200 points on the SAT for getting out of bed and getting to the test center on time ... you are aware of how the distribution works on those tests, right?

Are you asking me how having the correct facts affects your argument?

1. I don't think we know that your version constitute the correct facts. I've looked at the common data set. While your version is possible, so is mine; there's nothing in UW's CDS that would tell us.

2. No, I'm not actually asking. It's a rhetorical question. If it was one guy, then that's a point. If two guys have a 200, then that's a stronger point. If two guys have a 200 and another guy has a 1.2, then that's even more compelling. That is to say, if three people got in with exceedingly low stats, then it would stand to reason that the school does bend. Even if the guy with the 1.2 knocked the SAT or ACT out of the park, which is unlikely, UW, like most state flagships, puts a lot of admissions emphasis on GPA.

My main question still stands: if a guy can get in with a 200, then I'm just wondering why it's so hard to transfer in from JUCO with the coach supporting your admission. I get the PE credits. The rest, as I said, is not something I've studied.